mysticeagle posted at 4:11AM Mon, 22 February 2016 - #3965718

i think the first question was stated purely matter of factly inviting an answer or opinion. I think it seems to boil down to the limitations of Poser as an animation program, just being devils advocate here, but the blurb on the SM site does state "Poser Pro 2012 is the fastest way for  professional artists and production teams to add pre-rigged and fully textured 3D  characters to their projects." In all honesty not the blurb you would expect from a hobby software program as someone mentioned.

Don't get me wrong , I'm happy with the way it performs mostly, because I haven't the skillset to use anything more advanced. Different strokes for different folks as usual, and in all fairness to the original poster, has  there really been  any advancement in the animation abilities since Poser 5?...

atter of factly inviting an answer or opinion = sure it was, found this lost thread back today...

Where now at "NEW Poser Pro 11" and in the years, not much changed in poser, the game dev versions was my latest version i bought. as animation in poser is still to much time taken process for the effects you get in other soft "realtime" looks like reallillusion iclone these days is doing better as poser and daz together.

One would think that this cadre of DAZ vendors would be content to revel in their newfound riches, with benign indifference to what's going on with Poser.

If your Genesis & D/S vendoring is as prosperous as you say, then why waste your time here trying to convince us to abandon ship?  Go forth into your golden future and leave us poor Poser wretches to our miserable fate.     

Got poser version from 2010 to 2014 game dev and game dev was definitly my latest!
Sorry but if SmithMicro would come up with new poser versions and ask $499 for this program, then it need a complete rebuild from the beginning and lot's more of innovation. at a price range from $499 i expect realtime dynamics and realtime softbody and parenting features that work a lot easier then it 's available today in poser. the feature of poser is Blender but not anymore at a price range max around $100  poser is not worth $499 anymore, there is no powerfull innovation.

The days of 3d milking in poserworld are over.
Indie versions available of Modo and Maya LT and a free Blender alternative.
Zbrush and 3dCoat all around same price range only difference those other software really works well.

Thats great news...But Chuck what about figures development...? Or even genesis compatibility? You cant just stand there and let Daz getting so much advanced over this matter....we cant be so...outdated! They have a new render engine as well...but we are very behind on figures matter.... What are you thinking about this? 

As a professional artist im giving you this advice...do not afraid to expand yourselves in this area just because the other program is free....people with deep knowledge of poser wont change their workflow over night...but with the path you have chose in a  couple of years you wont have any clients.....sorry for my outbreak but its been inside me for too long! YOU MUST RESOLVE THE ISSUE WITH FIGURES,!!  

Content is king. Wait, didn't I already sat that? LOL. Much more in the pipe. This is just the first drop.

Aren't you guys a little late with this all? Sorry for you Nerd, i know your long around here with passion.
Poser got my attention when parenting features and softbody in poser gamedev/2014 show up, but hell it's horrible work out!!!
(softbody should be realtime these days certainly in a program that cost $400), Blender can do it for $0
Also the program is called Poser, but still is horrible to Pose in 2015, if you had some better work out features of puppeteer and powerpose tools like dazstudio = pose time savers! sadly,
Poser lost all my personal interest a while ago, all the goodies appear over at the daz side these days. (in a free program)
If dazstudio Animation problems get solved and daz get some workable inverse/forward kinematics setup or even cloth and soft body dynamics with physX.

then poser is totally dead for me, really sorry for your hard work guys.
let poser dy and join the daz team to bring more goodies, poser 's biggest problem is it's need a total rebuild from the beginning.
For years Poser was jumping from business to business for a reason and it didn't do good for poser at all!

Quote - And there's the reason the not so closet pervs and realism junkies have wanted some kind of soft body dynamic system for a few years, now. The structural complexities simply can't be addressed consistently any other way. Z-brush may make it possible to sculpt something realistic......so long as you don't mind doing it for each and every figure. And you have photo references so you know -what- to sculpt. And sbd is the only practical method if you intend to animate things....

you don't have to be a perv junkie.

just be an animator is enough and need of more realism.

ridiculous that this is still not possible in poser and daz world today 2012

these vids are created in 2008, and you can still not in poser or dazstudio 2012?

come on, how ridiculous is that?

http://metadoll.dojin.com/labo/2008_1_1.avi

http://metadoll.dojin.com/labo/2009muscletest01.avi

source: http://metadoll.dojin.com/labo/

Quote - A complete fix set? Shoo.. That will take a while. The only problem is that the fix might work on one shape and not on another. To create fixes to cater for all shapes is going to be a near impossible task. Not to forget that some people mix and match shapes. To test your fix on every possible variation is not really possible, and I guarentee that there will be a combination where the fix simply will not work. So the only solution is to make a fix set for V5, and a seperate set for M5 etc. It's a lot of work. What bending issues are you not happy with?

Fixes for V5 & M5 are enough.

and G5 if launched.

create a V5 as real as possible.

what if daz go for better weightmapping or real muscle solution in studio?

will solve all our problems.

please build a complete FIX set of Genesis Bending.  And Make Genesis bending right what DAZ can not model because of Childish and stupped TOS.

think the daz team still live in the year 1895.

and daz develop + forum team need to watch more 3d porn.

What happen with the store?

now i can't sort on daz and genesis only figures anymore.

it's one big mess for me now.

i do not need gen 4 content only genesis.

and i can not find this anymore.

do not like the site filter changes.

Can this fat Weight move in animation? How do i do this, without keyframing?

Quote - > Quote - this is great! thank you for your time and effort in creating this for us.

this should be sticked to the top of the forum.

i will be directing help threads to this one in the future as well as copying the link to my refereces for future use.

 

Thanks for the compliment(s).  I'm going to be doing another tute for converting suites of morphs (NBM for V4 specifically) either tonight or tomorrow.  It probably won't be tonight as work is overwhelming me for the moment.

 

Sharkie

where did you post the second tutorial?

who hoew time enough to include dynamics not?

why learn rigging in bryce? or modeling in hex..

use blender, it's free and 1000 of tutorials online that explain rigging.

or download the free student version of max or maya and watch digitaltutors online.

don't waste your time with learning death and outdated programs.

we need digitaltutors for learning :)

reason why daz launched studio for free, because the lack of documentation.

think there is no other reason, it's a shame that this problem happen to any daz program as carrara have no manual too. what a pitty. :$

carrara pro should be free too, as it lacks of documentation and full of errors.

Stop the tiral & error proces daz! only sell programs that are out of beta testing and have all the documentation that's needed!

Bryce is another dead daz program. don't expect to much from the bridge.

textured in zbrush? or still deeppaint...?