wut modeller would ppl most recommend for a real newb? i'm using bryce, but the boolean subtraction can get a little out of hand (such as 13 objects just to put a curve on a object). i'm on a mac, so whino.. i mean rhino isnt compatable, and im not sure if wings is, either. time isnt important, and im a great money saver, so cost doesnt matter.

There's a MAC program called, I think, Pixels 3D that's supposed to be quite good.

Wings is mac compatible, you need OS10.2 for the latest version. In my opinion it is the best and easiest app for a beginner but it's so good many pros use it. Give it a try! Baz

i got jaguar, so i'll try wings if i can get the url... and thx!

Attached Link: http://www.wings3d.com

thx, ill test that, then pixels 3d, c wut i think =)

Previous (fully working) releases of Pixels3D are regularly put on the cover cds of mags in the uk (Digit/Macworld etc) - dunno what the latest freebie version is - maybe it'll say on their site? I've used a very old version on an ancient 7500/100 Pmac - very slow, but some interesting tools - the files also seemed to export fine into other things I was using at the time. Well worth investigating imo. I now use Wings (on a pc) and also suggest you should try this - totally different way of working to P3D - but excellent (imo) for modelling many types of objects - and very easy to pick up the workflow. pp

I've got a free copy of Pixels 3.7, it's capable of excellent results but I'm finding it tricky to get decent results. This is probably true of all really good 3d packages, you need to really study them to get the best results and they're all complicated! It doesn't run too well in classic but it's OK. They have got an OSX version now, their website is worth a look. By the way, Wings doesn't have a renderer so you'll need to use Bryce or something else. Don't let that put you off though it's really an excellent modeller. If you then find you want something more complex I'd look at Cinema or Lightwave. If money isn't important maybe Maya. These are all complex apps though and will take a LOT of study. Cinema is probably the easiest to get to grips with. Baz

i've been lookin at those last ones, but the reason i started this thread was to c wut would be best, cuz it' a huge step, from bryce to anything. (bryce is too ez, doesnt make me wanna switch cuz its so ez, but i do recognize that it's not really made for modelling, mostly landscape design)

is anim8er for mac?

rhino will run with an emulator

pretty slow, but i'll try it..

yeah; rhino is fast and runs well even on slower machines. have heard of it running on a Pentium 1 133mhz

whew just came back from figuring out how to make a new internal partition, cuz i've heard thats the key to makin an emulator run about equivelent to pentium III-and-a-half... i think it's gonna work.... maybe..

You can do a heck of a lot with Electric Image, which is mainly a mac platform, though it is ported for PC. You'll need amorphium to convert the EI models to obj, etc, and Amorphium is handy for organic type f/x tools. The real deal is at www.universe3d.com and the older version which is nearly the same modeler as the current is way cheap at www.dvgarage.com I have an interface screenshot at www.annsartgallery.com/ei.html

good luck. let us know how it works.