Goodmorning folks :-) I am inquisitive is it possible to create with only 1 layer the same depht 3d feel in UF without using tricks as this image http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=1023429&Start=13&Artist=Fractelaar&ByArtist=Yes or the white sculpie set,s in FE As i read the parfiles from UF i see most using minimal 3 layers to a max of sometime hundered and more all with the same goal to create a cool perspective depht 3d feel Looks to me a nice challenge wich artist can create the most 3d depht in using only 1 layer and the colorpallette without another tricks But maybe you have all done this earlier However i am really inquisitive what is possible on that manner A few interresting urls are also welcome Have a great and creativefull day Greetings Arend

It depends what you mean by 'tricks' really, doesn't it? :-)

You can do an awful lot with very little if you take your time and think. For example, here's one of the layers from my "Delicate Work" image. The whole image is made from four main layers with another three simple layers to add some subtle lighting effects. Each of the four main layers is coloured using Doodads which is pretty great for this fake 3d stuff. This particular layer has a gradient with only three points on it, so you don't even have to generate really complex gradients to give an impression of 3d.

Just so no one thinks I'm cheating, this layer uses a private formula, but most of the 3d effect comes from the Doodads and gradient combination. I've anti-aliased and sharpened it, and added the SK, but no other pp was involved.

Best wishes,
Simon.

This also a one layer UF image, my contribution for the floral challenge from a while back http://www.innertraveler.com/publicgallery/showphoto.php?photo=13106&cat=500&page=3 Looks to me very interresting to see this as a challenge what there is possible for creating a 3d feel in 1 UF layer and then pure naturel only the parameter +coloring With tricks i mean diffirent filters so as the warping filter Thanks for the example Simon Greatz Arend

I'm having a hard time seeing the point of this

Use XD if 3d is your main goal.

Personally, I like the challenge of creating 3d effects in software that is mostly 2d. I think that there is some artistry involved with that. Like I just said on the UF list: why paint a scene when you can just take a picture of it? That's more practical isn't it? But some people like the challenge of recreating a scene with oils or watercolor. I hope that these people aren't looked at as impractical or unwise just because they choose a different way.

If you want 3d and you don't care about much else, use XD or Bryce or whatever.

Keith

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Keith you miss the point i am inquisitive of you can create in UF with only 1 layer the same 3d depht as my white sculpie ,s and some of my FFF work Looks to me a very simple question and challenge XD is a complete another story Have study a lot of UF par files the last time and see always the same system much layers and mask work so again my question can you do this with 1 layer Most be possible !! Greatz Arend

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/gallery.ez?ByArtist=Yes&Artist=aartika

Hi Arend,

In answer to your question - yes it is quite possible to create a one-layer image in UF with some appearance of "depth" to it - although most of the formulae available do not create a true 3D image (I agree with Keith that a program like Xenodream is best for this).

To do so requires careful manipulation of the chosen basic (.ufm) and coloring (.ucl) formulae, as well as the gradient. The one-layer image attached is one such - it uses a simple 3-point gradient, and includes 4 separate textures which are available within one coloring formula. It does not use any mapping or masking.

I think it is a valuable technical exercise to occasionally create such an image, but to me, personally, it still lacks the interest and artistry that develops with the addition of more layers and manipulation - I guess a bit like a painting which starts as a line drawing and ends up as something to hang above a fireplace which gives pleasure to view over a long period of time.

Tina

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Thanks Tina for explain it to me and for your nice image example Hope you take a look as you have some free time to a few of my white FE sculpie images and my last FFF uploads what are most all 1 layers images I see then much more 3d effect in my eyes Thanks again and have a nice week Greatz Arend

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=1001785

Arend I take it that you mean your image such as the one linked? Yes - I agree with you that this looks more 3D than the example I posted. It will be interesting to see if anyone will rise to your challenge and can come up with something similar? Tina

Try Plain Curve Traps II coloring in the TMA folder with the color preset set to gradient, then adjust the gradient until you get what you are looking for

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=943423&Start=1&Artist=Asylumc3&ByArtist=Yes

Wondering if this image is close to what you may mean. It's part of "Freeforms", using Ron Barnett's Slope #D Quadratic ODE Attractor. I've added the link to it. Then again I like the example Deagol gave. This might be fun to play with, thanks :).

Hi Arend and All, Just a quick example of the depth that can be realized in UF. Here's my 1-layer (10 minutes from production through render). The base formula is Super Cubic Julia found in gnd.ufm, and I used Plain Curve Traps II coloring in the tma.ucl folder (same one that Keith used). Though it doesn't begin to compare with yours, Arend, if I took some time and really practiced, I might be able to ocme up with something more dimensional. Thanks for the fun challenge! Linda

Here is a simple single layer, not even resized, right out of UF4. It is a mandelbrot from the standard folder colored with doodads by Dennis Magar and a simple 4 point gradient by me. It's sometimes nice to see these simple shapes :)