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Subject: General question on D|S/Poser compatability


kyoto_kid ( ) posted Sun, 09 March 2008 at 7:59 PM · edited Mon, 25 November 2024 at 7:57 PM

...hey, new here to Renderosity.  Was referred by several people.  Did a bit of a "cruise" and when I looked through the Marketplace, one of the things I noticed was that most of the offerings specify Poser as the required platform and do not mention Daz Studio (with the exception of Daz based characters).  I am still fairly new to digital 3D, as I have been searching for a different approach to art since I suffer from severe arthritis which makes it difficult to use the more traditional "tools of the trade".  Many of the items I looked at would be nice expansions to my content but I am somewhat reluctant to order any of the packs if they will not work with D|S.

So the bottom line is, do I need Poser when it is specified in the requirements or will they work in D|S?



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AnnieD ( ) posted Sun, 09 March 2008 at 9:14 PM

90% of Poser stuff works in DS...if there is something you really want but aren't sure of..post here and chances are someone has used it and will let you know.

 

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kyoto_kid ( ) posted Mon, 10 March 2008 at 10:10 AM · edited Mon, 10 March 2008 at 10:11 AM

Thanks. 

Currently we are having some issues with D|S 2.0 however I do notice that a number of the Poser based free downloads do work better in the new upgrade.  I also noticed that in the requirements, a few of the files state "Not Tested in D|S" so I imagine those would be ones to avoid. If by accident, I do get something that doesn't work. is there an exchange programme?



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AnnieD ( ) posted Mon, 10 March 2008 at 3:14 PM

I imagine any exchanges would be up to the vendor you bought from. 
If you ask in the forum...before you buy it..someoene will most probably answer to let you know if anyone has had trouble with it or if it does work in DS. 
Many vendors don't have anyone to test their product in DS so that's why they say it isn't  "tested"  in DS...If it says it  "will not work" in DS..I would take them at their word...lol   Not tested means they don't really know..that's why I suggested asking someone in a forum if they are familiar with the product first.

A lot of people are having issues with DS 2.0...I am not using it right now because I'm having issues with it...lol    I had to order a new graphics card..it seems that it required openGL 1.5
Check that your graphics card drivers are up to date.

 

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DavidGB ( ) posted Mon, 10 March 2008 at 6:10 PM

The things that won't work are:

Poser dynamic cloth
Poser dynamic hair
Python scripts
Poser node based materials.
Poser IBL lights

Poser oedinary lights won't worl too well out of the box, and would need quite a bit of adjusting.
While normal texture sets for Poser work in D|S, for best results the surface parameters need adjusting after applying the Poser MAT.


kyoto_kid ( ) posted Mon, 10 March 2008 at 7:02 PM

...thanks for the tip. 

I did read that the Poser dynamic features would not work.  Just not sure how that relates to the fit of clothing & hair in D|S.  Lighting is not that much of an issue as I imagine that I can substitute the D|S lighting.

I'll have to experiment with this a bit more using a couple of the free downloads available.



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DavidGB ( ) posted Mon, 10 March 2008 at 7:27 PM

Conforming clothing, and prop or conforming hair work fine (other than maybe needing to tweak the surface settings). Almost all clothing and hair here falls into those categories. If it's dynamic, it will say so.


lorddarkwolf ( ) posted Thu, 13 March 2008 at 8:56 AM

As for the not being tested in Daz, is maily due to the fact the vendor is too LAZY to take the time and effort, or too GREEDY to have some one test it for them in Daz studio,  I am a vendor here mind you a small one, only 2 products, but i made sure my one poser/daz product worked in both, I have p5 and Daz 2.0.  still prefer Daz over poser, but i wanted to have a product usable in both

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DavidGB ( ) posted Thu, 13 March 2008 at 9:19 AM

I have noticed, on those occasions where I've found a product works in Poser, doesn't work properly in D|S, could be fixed to work in both very simply, and I've contacted the vendor to say so (always very politely), that vendors appear to fall into two very distinct camps.

One group comprises vendors who are very reasonable, express gratitude for the help, fix the product speedily, and quite often ask follow-up questions when they find they're communicating with someone who's reasonably technically savvy about both D|S and Poser.

The other group are dismissive, frequently rude, won't listen to anything and won't even perform an update on their product that would take two minutes to do to give comatability to both - often then leaving me with having to write a lengthy description of how to edit one line in a cr2 or somesuch for D|S users who've bought or want to buy the product but have never opened a cr2 in a text editor in their lives and are afraid to do so.

It's particularly galling when, as has often been the case, the problem in D|S is only because something in the cr2 is actually wrong in terms of Poser standards, but Poser's very lax parser allows the mistake, while D|S's parser for Poser files, which is much stricter, doesn't. And the vendor will swear balck is white, rather than accept that they hadn't quite understood the Poser standard fully, and make their products comply to the Poser standards, when that's actually all that's needed for them to work in D|S too.


JenX ( ) posted Thu, 13 March 2008 at 11:47 AM

Quote - As for the not being tested in Daz, is maily due to the fact the vendor is too LAZY to take the time and effort, or too GREEDY to have some one test it for them in Daz studio,  I am a vendor here mind you a small one, only 2 products, but i made sure my one poser/daz product worked in both, I have p5 and Daz 2.0.  still prefer Daz over poser, but i wanted to have a product usable in both

Not everyone can run D|S on their machines, so your argument isn't exactly accurate.

There is also a learning curve...Poser and DAZ|Studio are different in so many ways, so painting merchants as lazy or greedy simply because they're still learning to use a program, or are unable to run said program, is not only uncalled for, but rude.

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lorddarkwolf ( ) posted Thu, 13 March 2008 at 12:35 PM

[quoteNot everyone can run D|S on their machines, so your argument isn't exactly accurate.

There is also a learning curve...Poser and DAZ|Studio are different in so many ways, so painting merchants as lazy or greedy simply because they're still learning to use a program, or are unable to run said program, is not only uncalled for, but rude.

I have had many intstances where this has happened and even when an item was settup to work in both, or had daz poses or such and they did not work, and contacted the vendor and they just blew me off saying that they have never had the issue and they were not going to worry about it, hence the lazy, I offered to help them figure out why it might not be working correctly or fix the issue, and still got blown off about it, or no response at all, so my point is valid for some vendors , **never said it applied to all vendors here on rosity, ** plus the use of poser's intereface compared to daz is more difficult, I said i have both so i know the differences.  I am not being rude just being honest about issues that i have had

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