Ballerina Dream and a Manifesto. by mgtcs
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Thanks everybody for all support to my last post.
Hi dear Friends:
For some time now, there has been a growing controversy here at RR regarding ratings, comments, and related issues. Now, such discussions seem to have escalated to the point where even some of the artists that I admire enormously have begun to express the view that, for some reason or another, to comment or rate images, to create symbiosis and friendship with others by regularly exchanging posts on each other's works is something negative that we should be ashamed of. Indeed, it would appear that popularity is something bad or can only be obtained by one being bad (e.g., if an artist is popular it is because he/she is a mediocre artist who comments on many images in exchange for comments in return). Though I can understand the motivation underling such views, they are seriously warped.
Renderosity is a space where the whole purpose if for people to view, comment, evaluate, and rate each other's work. It is about creating an online community of artists. The time spent seeing and commenting an image is a token of appreciation and incentive more than anything else. Of course, there are some cut-n-paste messages which are not the kind of thing one ideally would want, but even in this case one should not automatically consider that they are careless or just self-interested pseudo-praise, for they can be simply the consequence of lack of time or even lack of knowledge of the language. We can't assume that all such posts or their authors are morally bankrupt. The same goes for posting a comment on somebody's work as a reply to a comment given to your own work, that is to say, it is usually just common courtesy, not the purchasing of popularity. Values are being mixed up here.
It is important to note that, if one thinks that popularity, position in the charts, being artist or vendor of the month, and so forth, are of no importance or value, why not simply ignore those things altogether? Why is there a need to go through the effort of broadcasting, discussing, or even campaigning against them?
Good art is the synergistic result of hard work, popularity, creativity, intelligence, and, above all else, sensitivity and humbleness. It is a social and cultural process, as much as a technical and inspirational one.
There actually are some shameful things going on at RR, but they are of another nature. They have to do with the deception of posting comments praising someone's work only to, behind their backs, give them a poor rating on the said work, doing so without ever offering any sort of constructive criticism. They also have to do with making malicious comments meant simply to put down an artist, or being so proud of oneself as to believe that if you are not on the top it is only because you have been unfairly short-changed by lesser artists who bargain for votes. These are the types of things that we should be wary of, not the legitimate bonds of friendship, politeness, respect, and admiration that make this virtual community so successful among digital artists.
Putting people down simply because they post comments or are socially engaged is just as bad as picking on them for not posting at all or staying to themselves: one has no right to do either of those things.
Thank you again for all your support and friendship, without which I would not have learn all that I have and continue too!
Have a Great week
Monica
Hi dear Friends:
For some time now, there has been a growing controversy here at RR regarding ratings, comments, and related issues. Now, such discussions seem to have escalated to the point where even some of the artists that I admire enormously have begun to express the view that, for some reason or another, to comment or rate images, to create symbiosis and friendship with others by regularly exchanging posts on each other's works is something negative that we should be ashamed of. Indeed, it would appear that popularity is something bad or can only be obtained by one being bad (e.g., if an artist is popular it is because he/she is a mediocre artist who comments on many images in exchange for comments in return). Though I can understand the motivation underling such views, they are seriously warped.
Renderosity is a space where the whole purpose if for people to view, comment, evaluate, and rate each other's work. It is about creating an online community of artists. The time spent seeing and commenting an image is a token of appreciation and incentive more than anything else. Of course, there are some cut-n-paste messages which are not the kind of thing one ideally would want, but even in this case one should not automatically consider that they are careless or just self-interested pseudo-praise, for they can be simply the consequence of lack of time or even lack of knowledge of the language. We can't assume that all such posts or their authors are morally bankrupt. The same goes for posting a comment on somebody's work as a reply to a comment given to your own work, that is to say, it is usually just common courtesy, not the purchasing of popularity. Values are being mixed up here.
It is important to note that, if one thinks that popularity, position in the charts, being artist or vendor of the month, and so forth, are of no importance or value, why not simply ignore those things altogether? Why is there a need to go through the effort of broadcasting, discussing, or even campaigning against them?
Good art is the synergistic result of hard work, popularity, creativity, intelligence, and, above all else, sensitivity and humbleness. It is a social and cultural process, as much as a technical and inspirational one.
There actually are some shameful things going on at RR, but they are of another nature. They have to do with the deception of posting comments praising someone's work only to, behind their backs, give them a poor rating on the said work, doing so without ever offering any sort of constructive criticism. They also have to do with making malicious comments meant simply to put down an artist, or being so proud of oneself as to believe that if you are not on the top it is only because you have been unfairly short-changed by lesser artists who bargain for votes. These are the types of things that we should be wary of, not the legitimate bonds of friendship, politeness, respect, and admiration that make this virtual community so successful among digital artists.
Putting people down simply because they post comments or are socially engaged is just as bad as picking on them for not posting at all or staying to themselves: one has no right to do either of those things.
Thank you again for all your support and friendship, without which I would not have learn all that I have and continue too!
Have a Great week
Monica
Comments (164)
Froggy
Love the stylized look on this one - great!
theprojectionist
Brilliant work,one of your best Monica.
Marinette
Deliziosa!!! :)
Rose-Lignes
You are absolutely right! Constructive critism is welcome for me, though :) I'd like to learn. Great work you did on this one! Very delicate. It looks so peaceful.. Great scene too. I'd love to visit this place sometimes! Great combination of colours too, the enforce each other but are in perfect harmony at the same time. Love it!
blankfrancine
A beautiful presentation, Monica. Great pose and choice of colors.
myrrhluz
This is so beautiful! I love the colors and the composition. It reminds me of very fine painted porcelain. The colors are so smooth and silky. I love the salmon against the pale silvery green and the flowing lines of the image. Beautiful posing and light. This is very elegant and supremely beautiful. Though there are some parts of your Manifesto that I have no experience with (I have turned the rating off, am in no danger of being in the charts, and have not had any unkind comments posted on my images) I agree with what you are saying. I came to this community because I had long admired the artwork here and the welcoming atmosphere I saw in the comments I read. I look at it as a place to both be inspired and to meet people and make friends. I don't think this is mutually exclusive and if I was going to prioritize them, I would put making friends first. I love photography and painting, but there is nothing to stop me from doing that on my own, and I can find inspiration simply by looking at all the beauty here and everywhere else. I'm not saying that I can't learn from others. Of course I can and could learn a lot more if I made more effort. But it is the friendships that I have made here that I find the most rewarding. I love having a group of artists that regularly comment on my work and whose work I regularly comment on. To me it is about connections. Good connections not only make us happier, but inspire our art as well. I much prefer more personal comments, but I understand the constraints of time, difficulties of language, and how overwhelming commenting can become. I do think that returning comments is a common courtesy. Some say that they only comment on images they like, but for me that is not a problem, not because I comment on things I don't like, but because I have never gone to an artist's gallery and not been able to find an image I like, to comment on. Maybe it is not their latest, but why should that stop me from looking further in. I like this site very much and have met so many wonderful people here. I prefer to concentrate on that. Thank you for your words. They are very sensible and well said.
Josel007
Outstanding scene... very original concept.
Oceania66
MOLTO BELLA AMO LA FOTOGRAFIA E TUTTO CIO' CHE LO CIRCONDA,HAI FATTO DAVVERO UN CAPOLAVORO COMPLIMENTI...
linwhite
Hi Monica....I always like to see your smiling face in my gallery, and don't feel you are doing it for popularity...although obviously you are "popular". I totally ignore the Art Charts, and am happier that way. I actually hope my friends won't look, if I happen to make it. ART itself makes me happy and seeing it and talking about it with my friends makes me even happier, so isn't it best to just ignore all the swirling undercurrents and not get involved in all that? Some of those rip tides can wash you right out to sea. I mistakenly turned ratings on in one image, and panicked....I hate the thought of rating art or having my art rated. I actually stopped posting at RDNA, where my store is, because I couldn't turn off the ratings or comments. I don't usually rate art either, as I think ratings are kind of superficial and not always relevant to what's good and what's not..... Anyway, you are encouraging a lot of people with your constant comments and favorites, I'm sure.....so, if that makes you happy, then do it. We gotta do what makes us happy....and avoid doing things that make others unhappy. BTW....most people do NOT like constructive comments....they'd rather have a "wonderful" than "the figure needs a ground shadow, so it won't appear to be floating" type comment. Some of the comments I actually remember were those that pointed out something that I needed to improve, including the exact one I quoted above (from "Blackhearted"....who's actually a great guy and top, top artist.) You can be sure that every scene I do now the figures are grounded...LOL Okay, just thought I'd respond, and hope nobody is offended, but that's how I feel.
pimanjc
If I comment on an artwork, it is a consideration that I appreciate that work. Many times, my words may be simple. I don't want to try to repeat all the comments that might have been previously made. If I don't like the quality of a work, or more often, don't care for the theme of a work, then I usually just don't post. I am fairly new at 3-D artistry. Often I probably don't recognize a certain part of an image that required exceptional skills ... so I don't comment. I tend to especially like landscape images. Thank you for your comments. They are valuable. Your image is lovely
Pewter7
Wow Monica! I read what you wrote and was interested to learn of all these goings on. I think you expressed a good opinion on the matters and spoke intelligently and well. I hope your words of wisdom will have a positive effect on all who read. As for the image, it is another Wow! This one seems rather surrealistic, not my favorite style but you have pulled it off marvelously. Each element is lovely, the colors are perfect, all comes together to present an image of artistic beauty and quality. 5+
LBJ2
Wonderful render and composition, Monica. A beautiful image. I like the bright environment. The red color put great focus on the ballerina. The Renderosity subject...i think it has always been a problem. I do not have so much time and bandwidth. So i just try to make decent comments, on the works from people that comment on my images. There are so many uploads in these galleries. Only a very few people have time to see and comment on everything.
jgkane
A breathtaking, and I think, tender composition, Monica. Bravo! Regarding your comments, I agree whole heartedly. Some comments are helpful and supportive. Other actions, including the malicious use of hidden ratings, are not only critical but also destructive. However, when a person does that, what is important is not their negative comment on the work, but rather that they are really broadcasting to the world their own negative, if not malicious personality ... That is truly sad. God made us to be the best we can be for ourselves and others, with His help. Making oneself feel superior by bringing others down, is instead, for that person, really self destructive since it denies the worth of others, but in doing so isolates that person more and more from the source of Love and Forgiveness. We need to pray for them. Warm regards, on a sunny Glasgow morning ( sun is still under the clouds for a few minutes ... ;o) ), John.
0rest4wicked
An extraordinary image dear Monica! As for the narrative...When someone has ratings turned off on their gallery and so will only comment and not rate, even though it is turned on in your gallery. After some time I let it go, after all in a hundred or even a thousand years from now. What does it matter...lol!