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Subject: PC/Mac? Quick question...


EpikIllusion ( ) posted Fri, 25 April 2003 at 1:00 PM · edited Sun, 01 December 2024 at 6:17 AM

Hey. Quick question... Since I just got a new computer, a Mac, I'm trying to move "Michael 2" from my old PC to the Mac, now that I've got Poser on a faster computer. However, Michael isn't showing up in the "DAZ People" section of my Figures tab. I moved the following files to the Mac: Michael 2.cr2 Michael 2.rsr blMilMan.obj blMilMan.rsr I'm wondering, am I missing certain files that need to be moved, or is this just impossible from PC to Mac? Thanks.


Ghostofmacbeth ( ) posted Fri, 25 April 2003 at 1:37 PM

You need the convertor from MartinC in freestuff .. It changes all the files to Mac friendly ones .. Maconvertor fixes all the PC files Macinstaller installs allthe files Maconstructo is like morph manager kind of and allows you to transfer morphs from one Michael figure to another etc. Hope that helps



EvoShandor ( ) posted Fri, 25 April 2003 at 1:40 PM

Just curious Epik, why did you go Mac? Evo


lwanmtr ( ) posted Fri, 25 April 2003 at 1:48 PM

You can use Filetyper, a free program that will change the file to whatever type you want. I would assume that they went with mac because it's better :)


texboy ( ) posted Fri, 25 April 2003 at 1:48 PM

...because he's obviously a man of infinite resource and sagacity!


EvoShandor ( ) posted Fri, 25 April 2003 at 2:01 PM

I meant specifics, not "because they are better" (which is debatable ad nauseum) Evo


EpikIllusion ( ) posted Fri, 25 April 2003 at 2:10 PM

Thanks, guys. I downloaded Maconvertor and I'm about to try that out. As for my choice of Mac over PC, sadly, it wasn't mine to make. My girlfriend thought that the Mac looked prettier than the PC I wanted, heh. But it's a pretty decent computer, regardless. Thanks again.


maclean ( ) posted Fri, 25 April 2003 at 2:22 PM

Blimey! No offence, but the day we all start picking out computers because the g/f thinks they look pretty, is the day the world ought to end. LOL. mac (No, I don't use one)


mateo_sancarlos ( ) posted Fri, 25 April 2003 at 2:45 PM

Attached Link: http://www.soft-rabbit.com/

See attached link for your PC-to-Mac conversion needs. (also see Jim X's utilities in freestuff). It's true that Macs are prettier (more stylish) than PCs, hence the overwhelming tendency of film and T.V. producers to use Macs in scenes with computers (e.g. Powerbooks and IMacs). Unfortunately the debate is still out on which OS is worse - some say Win XP, but others are certain OS X is the work of the devil

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hauksdottir ( ) posted Fri, 25 April 2003 at 3:02 PM

Maclean, You are right! We ought to pick Macs because >>>WE<<< think they are pretty... as in pretty darned good! ;^) Computers #5 and #6 are Macs and I wish that I'd switched years ago. 2 of my nominally-working PCs are absolutely dead (won't even boot) and the third is limping. All of them have their innards exposed as I desperately try to cannibalize any working parts. I use a Windows box to connect to the world and the Macs for any real work. There is bad media on the hard drive of the G4. It has had 3 years of heavy use with nothing done to it but adding memory when I bought it. Now that a project has been finalized and emailed, I'll replace the brain... but if you have ever peeked inside one of the newer Macs (G3 or G4) you'll notice that even the innards are better organized. I have experience with too many different types of computers (including Amiga and C64). If I had the money to buy a new machine, I'd be down at the Apple store getting a G4 with dual 1 gig drives. It is a pretty machine... inside and out. Carolly


lwanmtr ( ) posted Fri, 25 April 2003 at 3:40 PM

exactly. I made completely got rid of my pc when a feller traded me a 7500, which never crashed..since then I've gone up to the dual 1ghz, and have never had any problems with it. Though I will still prolly buy an Amiga-One, when released.


EpikIllusion ( ) posted Fri, 25 April 2003 at 4:00 PM

Haha. Nah, it came down to this Mac and a Dell we were looking at. The last time we bought a computer, I picked it out myself and she was cool with it. So what the hell, as long as this thing has the right specs, I'll let her go with the "pretty" one with only minimal complaints. Heh. I'm not a huge computer person, so it doesn't matter to me. Mac or PC, they're both going to find a way to piss me off. :p Continues to transfer more files to the Mac


EpikIllusion ( ) posted Fri, 25 April 2003 at 4:04 PM

Haha. Nah, it came down to this Mac and a Dell we were looking at. The last time we bought a computer, I picked it out myself and she was cool with it. So what the hell, as long as this thing has the right specs, I'll let her go with the "pretty" one with only minimal complaints. Heh. I'm not a huge computer person, so it doesn't matter to me. Mac or PC, they're both going to find a way to piss me off. :p Continues to transfer more files to the Mac


xvcoffee ( ) posted Fri, 25 April 2003 at 4:08 PM

But aren't Macs god for GRAPHICS? Poser? Graphics? Makes sense doesnt it?


maclean ( ) posted Fri, 25 April 2003 at 4:11 PM

Well, I'm not gonna get into the PC/mac thing. I agree with stylish looking machines. PCs are aesthetically horrible, full stop. No argument there. The day someone has the guts to break out of the 'any-color-as-long-as-it's-gray' syndrome, they'll make a fortune. Even black would be an improvement, for gawd's sake! Mind you, I doubt if I'd want to see things whizzing and whirring in a transparent cover either. Just a bit of taste, is all. But, looks aside, there's not a team of wild horses in the world that would get me onto a mac. My PC may look like an industrial piece of refuse, but it sure does the job. mac


xvcoffee ( ) posted Fri, 25 April 2003 at 4:58 PM

MACS ARE UGLY! MACS ARE STUPID LOOKING AND WHOEVER DESIGNED THEM SHOULD GET 50 ON THE BARE BUM WITH HIS WHITE CANE! I keep mine on the floor, yes they are attractive and futuristic from the side view and in the brochures but the business end that we actually see is straight out of Great RnR Swindle! As for the iMac, no-one wants a 1950s refrigerator in their office or living room, so please lets keep a level head about this attractiveness thingie.


Axe_Gaijin ( ) posted Fri, 25 April 2003 at 5:21 PM

"As for my choice of Mac over PC, sadly, it wasn't mine to make. My girlfriend thought that the Mac looked prettier than the PC I wanted, heh." CRAP!!! I spitted my coffee on the monitor reading that!! :D :D


Patricia ( ) posted Fri, 25 April 2003 at 6:26 PM

Buffy uses a Mac...what else do you need to know? ;) And, well, there are hundreds of other reasons to own one, but a quick search in this forum for the last half dozen threads on the subject of PC vs. Macs will enumerate then without my needing to do all that typing. ;)


Jim Burton ( ) posted Fri, 25 April 2003 at 6:32 PM

Incidently, to give you a little background on what you are doing, PC identify a file (mostly) by the extension, Macs use a special header that goes on the front of the file. No header, nothing is visable inside the Poser libraries. I used to have a Mac at my day job, I found Martin C's stuff worked very good on converting the files. It will also swing the other way, and convert the mac files back to PC versions. I's use a Mac in a minute if they weren't slow, expensive and unable to run the software I use. The O.S. is far, far more logical in operation. Curse you, Bill Gates!


purplehayes ( ) posted Fri, 25 April 2003 at 6:36 PM

Macs are attractive, but then... You get working faster with them (assuming you know how to handle the sofware you put in, and have a plan as to where to get from here). The OS comes with the machine. Less hardware conflicts. They are not AS crash-prone than a PC (mostly on OSX, though...) You don't get to see as much crap and pop-ups as you are navigating on the Internet (assuming, of course, you are not looking for crap while you navigate !) SOME pc's MIGHT be decent machines (most of the times you need some technical savvy to custom build your machine); MOST of the macs truly are GOOD machines. PH (having his feet in both worlds)


Patricia ( ) posted Fri, 25 April 2003 at 6:37 PM

SLOW?! My iMac screams! How long's it been since you played on one, Jim?


TCSP ( ) posted Fri, 25 April 2003 at 6:38 PM

pc's are only ugly if you let them be that way... its surprisingly easy to strip a monitor and case and spray paint... cut... weld and so on if you have the time ;)


galactron22 ( ) posted Fri, 25 April 2003 at 7:00 PM

Mac,PC,same thing they both have massive problems and crash often, I should know I work with both platforms.

Ask me a question, and I'll give you an answer.


petereed ( ) posted Fri, 25 April 2003 at 7:03 PM

I bought a MAC IICI at the Goodwill a couple years ago. Got on the internet, ran Photoshop, Illustrator, Freehand, and a host of other goodies. A friend of mine who is a college grad as a computer major said that that was a testimony to the reputation of MACs. He knew the IICI was a 1989 model and was amazed at what I was doing with it. Today both PC and MAC have a whole lot more to offer. But I keep reading that MACs stability and non-crashing reputation makes up for time lost on the faster PC side. In all, use what you got and have fun.


xvcoffee ( ) posted Fri, 25 April 2003 at 7:51 PM

Well this is going to be a very long thread. Could someone please tell me and the whole world how they think that Macs are visually attractive? Because I then must be the one with the white cane! Also has anyone got the link to the After Effects Mac v Pc with the crazy bar graphs (!) speed test? The one with the 1.42Gb Mac, not the 1.25Gb. (Have this thread into the 100 entry bracket by the time I get back.)


Caly ( ) posted Fri, 25 April 2003 at 9:01 PM

I have a Tower Mac & a Portable at home as well as my boyfriend's PC, and a black Dell at work. My Mac's are pretty/gorgeous, the Dell is somewhat stylish, my boyfriend's PC is flat out ugly. :P. Since OSX came out the difference in stability has been pretty obvious. The PCs crash... and fuss, and choke on games and internet explorer and simple things. The Mac goes on even when pushed with Poser open and Bryce and Photoshop and several browser windows and Mail and Fetch and BBedit open... I have a G4 gray/white tower. I also have a G3 lombard laptop and THAT is just gorgeous with the black case and bronze keys that seem to delicately light up. I started out with an old Mac PowerPC 7500 and it's still kicking around. They are quality hardware simply put. They LAST. As for the new iMacs, I think they're adorable! I always loved the Pixar lamp animated shorts. :P

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TCSP ( ) posted Fri, 25 April 2003 at 9:21 PM

i can have poser5, max 4 and photoshop7 running without any probelms at all... but you cant buy my pc in a store. i can run several instances of vb6, have frontpage open and logged onto a sever... dozens of browser windows and so on, run max and photshop... and still not have any issues... if you have a problem running multiple applications you cant generalize it by blamming your pc.. blame yourself and the crap you may have jammed into your reg OR the fact that you are expecting TOO MUCH from your poor processor... which is exactly why people buy macs... its too bad there is too much costomizability with pc's because then everyone thinks their computer should be able to do what another computer can do without understanding the variables between systems. macs are cookie cutter machines.. made for a narrow margin of user based on a graphics platform. pc's are based on an individual need formed around a general theme.


Spit ( ) posted Fri, 25 April 2003 at 9:40 PM

My PC is Black. Nyah nya nyah. They don't all come in gray and beige ya know. Kinda hard to read the letters on the keyboard at night though. Can't have everything. Heh. It's stupid to compare macs with PC's. You've got to compare mac's to Dells (Dell wins), or Mac's to HP (Mac wins) etc etc. I had a Mac once. Never again. Just couldn't stand the philosophy and culture you have to buy into to use one. One more happy face on that machine and I was ready to punch it. My Dells have been fantastic machines. And even under Win98 it was a couple YEARS until I saw my first blue screen. Then moved to XP. Not one crash in a year and a half. Don't worry. Be happy. Good machines are out there.


Caly ( ) posted Fri, 25 April 2003 at 10:16 PM

Macs are customizable. (my Dell at work is black, btw. Somewhat stylish. And in a dark room, yeah the keyboard is tough :P) Have you even noticed how easily you can get into the Mac towers? And how neatly arranged everything is inside? I've messed with RAM and hard drives and graphic cards... Sure there are plenty of people that buy a Mac or a PC and just leave it at that. But there are plenty of people that buy the either a Mac or a PC and customize them. And now that Mac's have UNIX... With all of the open software out there, oh boy can you customize. Especially if you're not afraid of prompt lines. ;) And at the end of the day you can just go back to the regular Mac style of just letting the computer do what it does best- which is work for you. By the way, you haven't started a Mac in a while eh? :) Macs no longer load with a Happy Face.

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TCSP ( ) posted Sat, 26 April 2003 at 1:01 AM

yes your right caly... i got sucked into the wintel system soooo long ago... i just dont keep up to speed with other side anymore ;) i think the problem here lies in the fact that my pc is very specific... someone who buys a dorm-room pc or a middle range dell, isnt going to get the functionality and stability when using high-end applications like 3d studio max or maya ***(now im not saying a dell cant handle it because it really, really depends on the guts **stay focused, dorm-room pc's with the molded plastic shell and 9" viewing area). then you have the other pc users who cram periferals/controler cards with 8 drives! and addons onto their poor p3 jacked to a gig on a 250volt power supply! like you should expect things arent gona work and the stability is gona go out the window... we get a bad rap because of the mistakes alot of people make with their pc. having heard 'its so easy' over and over again, average-joe takes liscence with their os. you wouldnt beleive how many times ive had to talk people through problems theyve created for themselves simply because, as a pc owner, they feel obligated to upgrade and tweak and poke and prod on a regular basis. i blame tv. do mac users do this? i mean how much tweaking can you do to your mac over what/how you got it? would it be cheaper to buy a lower end mac and then upgrade with newer/faster hard drives? ram... what about the limited software titles? even if you dont use a mac for what everyone suggests it be used for, (graphics) is it really that much better than a pc for things like word processing? database management? can you make it into an sql server or hack out visual basic, c++? ouch! im just not sold... probably will be building my own computer every few years because i can.


Fashionably_Late ( ) posted Sat, 26 April 2003 at 2:04 AM

As someone who's familiar with both platforms, and used to work as a sales rep in a Mac specialty store, I thought I'd add my 2 cents.

What do I consider my primary reason for using a Mac? They're more efficient. No matter how familiar I am with both operating systems, it takes me half the time to accomplish something on a Mac, because its centered around a user-friendly system.

Most people would be surprised how many programs that were once 'PC only' are available for the Mac these days. The way I see it, any program you could possibly NEED is cross platform, the rest that aren't... well you get the idea. I do find a use for Virtual PC on occasion, for smaller programs like software utilities that won't run on a Mac. For years I kept a PC in my household just to run things that my Mac couldn't, and within the past couple years its become completely unnecessary.

I think everyone should make their own decisions about what OS they find fits them best, and that its really not worth arguing about. No one can come up with concrete evidence that everyone's going to agree on, because its a matter of opinion. Try to tell a dog lover that cats are smarter, or a cat lover that dogs are man's best friend. Its a futile attempt, believe me.

-Molly


MungoPark ( ) posted Sat, 26 April 2003 at 2:04 AM

".. what about the limited software titles? even if you dont use a mac for what everyone suggests it be used for, (graphics) is it really that much better than a pc for things like word processing? database management? can you make it into an sql server or hack out visual basic, c++? " Have a look at the c++ development tools available (for 25 dollars rom Apple) and your eyes will pop out I promise you.....There is enough software available and with OS X which is based on FreeBSD you can do things windoze users arent even dreaming of - no kidding OS X is amazing


RHaseltine ( ) posted Sat, 26 April 2003 at 6:21 AM

Is there a way of ANTI-bookmarking the big-endians vs. little-endians threads?


maclean ( ) posted Sat, 26 April 2003 at 10:17 AM

'any program you could possibly NEED is cross platform' Oh yeah? So
where are all the poser 5 users on the mac then? That statement
should have read.... 'any program you could possibly NEED is cross
platform..... if you're willing to wait 6 months or so' mac

Standing by with more fuel for the fire


Jim Burton ( ) posted Sat, 26 April 2003 at 10:52 AM

Patricia- Not all that long ago, my last Mac was a 800 (I think) Mhz G4. Macs might be fast in some apps, but they sure aren't in Poser. Here is a copy of my CPU test, run in Poser, by a lot of the members here. You might notice what is bringing up the end (faster is better). Don't get me wrong, I LIKE Macs, but I keep my eyes open, and call things as I see 'em. As I used to fix Macs at my day job, there is no doubt in my mind they are (or were) more reliable, too, only as they become more generic they are slowly becoming more PC-like (and more PC-reliable) too. It is a shame they gave up the SCSI drives. ;-) AMD 2000XP 1G RAM Win 2K 024 seconds Pentium 4- 2.4 Ghz 2GB RAM ? 033 seconds AMD 1800 Mhz 1GB Ram Win XP 035 seconds AMD 1800+ Athlon 512 Mb RAM Win XP Home 037 seconds AMD XP2100 1.73GHz 512MB RAM ? 040 secs AMD 1800+ 1GB RAM Win XP home 040 seconds Pentium 4 2.2 Ghz 1GB ? 042 seconds AMD 1.4 Athlon 1 GB RAM Win 2K 043 seconds. AMD XP 1800+, 1GB DDR RAM, WinXP 044 seconds AMD 1.4 Ghz Athlon, 768 Mb RAM, Win 2000K - 044 seconds. AMD 1.4 Ghz Athlon 768 Mb RAM, Win 98 048 seconds AMD 1.3 GHz 256meg RAM Win 98 048 seconds AMD Athlon 1600- 384 MB Ram ? 48 seconds Pentium 4 2.26 Ghz 1GB Win XP 048 seconds Pentium 4 1.7Ghz 384RDRAM WinME 063 seconds Pentium 4 1.9 Ghz 1Gb RAM Win XP 057 seconds Pentium 4 1.7 GHz, 256 MB RAM, 067 seconds AMD XP 1800+ 1 GB DDR Windows 2000 Pro 068 seconds Pentium 3 1 Ghz 256Mb Ram, Win 98, 070 seconds. Pentium 4 - 2.6 Ghz 512 Mb Windows XP 070 seconds AMD 1700+ (Dual) 1Gb DDR Win XP Pro 073 seconds Pentium 3 850 Ghz 512 Mb RAM Win 98se 081 seconds Pentium 3 1GHz, 512 MB RAM, Windows XP Home 081 seconds. AMD 800 Mhz Athlon 768Mb Ram Win XP Pro 085 seconds AMD 1700XP 512Mb WinXP Pro 088 seconds Pentium 4 1.0 Ghz ? ? 090 seconds Pentium Celeron 600 Mhz 256 Mb RAM Win 2000 Pro 095 seconds AMD Duron 1.1, 256 Mb Win XP pro 102 seconds PIII 800 Notebook 256 Mb RAM Win 2K Pro 104 seconds Celeron 700mhz 128 MB RAM Win XP 105 seconds AMD 1.0 Ghz Athlon 768Mb RAM Win XP Pro 106 seconds AMD 1..0 Ghz Athelon 512 MB RAM Win98SE 107 seconds AMD 1Gb Athlon, 256Mb Ram, Win 98. 108 seconds AMD ? K6 146 Mb RAM 115 seconds Pentium 3 800MHz, 128MB RAM, Win98 134 seconds Pentium III 500Mhz, 384mb RAM, Win98SE 165 seconds Pentium 3- 525Mhz 256 Mb RAM, Win 98 178 seconds Mac G3-500 Mhz 768 Mb RAM ? 215 seconds Mac G3-400 Mhz 256 Mb RAM O.S. 9.0.4, 343 seconds Mac G4 500 Mhz 832 Mb RAM O,S. 9.2.2 476 seconds iMac G3 233Mhz/ 160mb RAM OS9.2 615 seconds Mac 8500 306 Mhz 176 MB RAM ? 765 seconds Pentium II 133MHz 32Mb RAM Win95 1950 sec


Caly ( ) posted Sat, 26 April 2003 at 12:03 PM

The trouble with Poser 4 is that it hasn't been carbonized- doesn't work natively in OSX. So it has slowed down because you have to run it in Classic. It is still a pretty fast renderer. At least compared to Bryce 5 which now runs natively in OSX. :D Don't get me wrong, I still love Bryce. :) I also have an old Mac. At 400mghz, I don't expect the speed of light. ;) You can tweak hardware, you can tweak software... especially now that OSX has unix, yes you can do all of that stuff. Read up on it if you like. :) BSD has a large open source community... Here's a start point- http://www.apple.com/macosx/ I basically have an older Mac that I found cheaper to tweak, with yes, faster harddrives, upgraded the OS to X, and added LOTS more RAM. If I wanted I could get a better graphics card too and there are processor addons to raise the speed done by non-Apple companies like http://www.powerlogix.com/ http://www.sonnettech.com/default.html www.xlr8yourmac.com But I'm actually waiting for the G5 Mac processor, that will hopefully! have some speedy new IBM chip technology. These days software tends to come out both Mac and PC. For example, I do play games, and Diablo 2 LOD came out for both Mac & PC at the same time. Same for The Sims :Unleashed. If not there's a short lag period that I don't mind... like Civilization 3. As for Poser 5, well... I'm waiting to see how Daz Studio comes out. I never even upgraded to Poser 4 PP. If you're the impatient type, since Macs have UNIX you can run all of the open source software out there AND you can emulate windows. ;) When it comes to word processing etc, it really is up to your preferences... I prefer to have more options, and now I can use stuff from Openoffice.org on my Mac. :) You can be a server, you can do code... follow the resources from Apple. :)

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Fashionably_Late ( ) posted Sat, 26 April 2003 at 2:38 PM

I said "need" only because we don't all need to have the latest upgrades and product advancements to create beautiful work, in my opinion. I may or may not buy Poser 5 when its released for Mac, but I wouldn't say its a necessity. If there were no programs available for Mac to fill the 3D hobbyist market, then you'd hear me complaining. -Molly


xvcoffee ( ) posted Sun, 27 April 2003 at 2:32 AM

Ah, Poser 5 for Mac... Carbonised, Dual Platform, Dual 64bit aware...... and I wake up and it's a Monday, in April, but June is coming. (Thank you Beta testers)


maclean ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2003 at 5:10 PM

'i wuld ike to know if anyone woud share mike for mac with me...and i would realy use and appreciate it and keep my mouth quiet about it too' Is that why you're posting the request in a public forum that is rabidly anti-piracy? What you're asking for comes under the term 'warez'. I have a feeling you're in for a big disappointment. mac


jmor30 ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2003 at 5:15 PM

someone already has offered... i guess it would be inapporiate to ask for a share and not offer to buy it or vice versa...thanks and my apologies .Thanks to the nice person that offered.


jmor30 ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2003 at 5:25 PM

I love my iMac...and would never buy a pc (piece of crap) that was for you know how who recently switched from a pc to a mac... you've joined the dark side Luke...LoL to maclean... What you're asking for comes under the term 'warez'. I have a feeling you're in for a big disappointment. (not really i have it now and will be careful next time in asking for a favor here knowing your on the job...lol) mac


Spike ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2003 at 9:14 PM

jmor30, I have what your looking for..... Ok, back to the Mac Vs. Pc subject.....

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