Sorry, folks. Non-3D thread, but ... today is the D day ... TODAY PLAYING IN THEATRES ALL AROUND THE WORLD !!!!!!!!

What is playing? Is there a new movie or something? What's it about? Is it a war movie about D-Day?

You are a little late. Star Wars Day was earlier in the month.

May the 4th be with you.

:)

star wars: episode 3, Helgard. at least that's what i assume cassette was referring to. I just got back from seeing it about an hour ago (midnight showings here). and i might add, I was not impressed. I hate to say it, but of all 3 of the prequel movies, this one had to be the worst, as far as the story concept goes. I've been a star wars fan for nearly 30 years, (most of my life), and have been waiting for this one for who knows how long. I can't believe lucas would let the whole saga end like this. as far as eye candy goes, the cgi, costumes, sets, etc, was great, but the story is just plain cheesy. Ewan McGreggor recently stated that this has been an "acting disappointment" for him. and now after seeing this film, I understand why he would make a comment like that.
**Release date is May 19th in the states, PhilC
And btw, this thread doesn't belong in the poser forum. ;-) But to put it a bit more on-topic, does anyone out there know of any character head morphs for michael 3 that would make him resemble Ewan McGreggor? I'd like to use his face for a character I'm creating (completely non-sw related), but I suck at twisting dials to resemble famous faces.

E.D.

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If you are not with me you are against me.

McGregor's comment about his acting disappointment was in regard to working with greenscreens (he denies having denegrated SW:RotS). Understandable, given that actors tend to need interaction so as to evoke emotional responses/reactions. Nonetheless, acting in its truest form IS imagining. It just so happens to be easier with actual props and humans with which to interact.

Hahahaha, kawecki, youre bad ;)

And well, I have readed notes about the movie, and people says that this isnt the best of the six SW ... but ... ... when the fists John Williams notes will sound at the theatre, i know that all my hair will seem needles ... ;)

This is the first Star Wars Movie, that I haven't seen on opening day. Just can't take the lines, noise, and the ticket prices. The last Star Wars movie, my brother and I went and it wasn't till I saw the movie on DVD that I actually got to hear the movie.... GROK Butch

I will be seeing it in two hours and ten minutes. I could have seen it last night at midnight, but opted to sleep. Pretty excited. I was let down by the last two, but hear that this one is better. I will let you know what I think. :^) Jay

Hail Vader!

Its your destiny, old man :D

ilovestarwars!!!!!!!!!!!! heheh.

:-)

I saw it on tuesday in special premier for charity event... So i can Say that i saw it two days before the rest of the world. And the movie is great, but still The empire strickes back is my favorite. EP III is a complementary movies that fix all the loose ends of the star wars saga. The music is marvelouz and the battles are great. I won't spoil it for you, but if you have any question just ask.

Anakin is such a sithy.

Anakin (Darth Vader) is very very sithy, he's bad to the bone.

The guy on qvc said it was great...

"**Release date is May 19th in the states, PhilC" Don't worry Phil...I got your joke. 8 )~ Tom

He was correct...

I saved my money... and read the script. Lucas hasn't learned a thing in 30 years, except how to sell toys and games. When you can see the videogame sequences just by reading the script, you know it's bad. And the quips which pass for humor? :roll eyes: And the love scenes? :gag: Too many people doing stupid things just because it looks good on film doesn't make a plot or a convincing story. BTW, I wouldn't be surprised if the screenplay gets the Razzy Award. I enjoyed the first 2, stood in lines wrapped around the theatre and went back repeatedly, but Lucas killed his own franchise to the point where you couldn't drag me to see this one. Carolly

If you like the star wars films then you will probably like the third one but if you don`t like them then you wont.

With that commentary I realize that you're not a real Star Wars fan, cause every good fan knows that the best one is The Empire Strickes back and the worse one is The Phantom Menace. From now on I'll just ignore you.

"With that commentary I realize that you're not a real Star Wars fan, cause every good fan knows that the best one is The Empire Strickes back and the worse one is The Phantom Menace. From now on I'll just ignore you." That was for hauksdottir not to you xantor.

I'll wait for the DVD.

Missing work to see it......sheesh........

I can proudly state that I have never seen a single SW movie in its entirety. :D

I have not yet gotten to see it....and I have to go out of state for my cousin's graduation this weekend so it will be even longer before I get my Sith fix. (I'm gonna be chewing my arm off to take my mind off it by the end of the trip...not to mention having to drive to Kansas anyways..) And of course everyone knows that Empire was the best. ;-)

Most of us wouldn't be doing 3D graphics work today if it weren't for Star Wars.

the original 3 movies will always be the best. lucas didn't have all the fancy cgi toys to play with back then. he focused more on the story. there was more dialogue then and the plot was far more convincing. he didn't have any love scenes to do. the subtle hints of leia and han falling for each other was all he had to worry about, and he pulled it off well, I think, leaving their future together up to the imaginations of the viewers and plethora of other writers that carried the star wars saga beyond the films. Though I'm sure he had planned for han and leia to have children (he named the 3 they did have, but left the story telling of how they came to be up to somebody else). I remember seeing ep4 when I was 3 years old, in a drive-in theatre with my brother and parents. I've been a fan since then. When ep1 finally hit theaters i was happy to see the rebirth of the star wars saga. I'm the biggest star wars fan i know. I have the movies on vhs and dvd and my bedroom walls are covered with action figures on their cards hanging from push pins. Yesterday morning I drug the rest of my collection out of the walk-in closet that they've been stored in (because long ago i ran out of wall space in my room to display it all), just showing my brother what all I've accumulated over the years while we were discussing the new film. I have so much of this crap its almost embarrassing.

I really enjoyed attack of the clones. I sat through the whining and accusations of all those out there who accused lucas of destroying the story with the new films, giving him credit for the attempt. I viewed ep1 and 2 as the groundwork leading up to the big finally of ep3 and was happy with it, until last night. I played and completed ep3 on xbox last weekend, so I had a taste of what the movie was going to be like, from the film clips that they show between levels. And now, I have to say there's better action in the video game than there is in most of the movie. Its just disappointing to know that this is all episode 3 has ammounted to. I admit that there are some great aspects of the film. There's some very emotional moments, especially between anakin and obi-wan. But its not convincing, and anakin's fall seemed more forced than it should have been. The boy just doesn't have a brain, apparently. Not to mention, there are still things that contradict the implied story of the original 3 films, especially one key piece of dialogue from ROTJ between leia and luke. Overall, I got the impression that this film is more of a drama where all the others have been more action. Which by no means is a bad thing. I just think he could have made a hell of a lot more of an impact with it than he did. He should have allowed some of his colleagues to collaborate on the script with him, to buff it up and make it more believable/moving, etc. But of course, lucas is known for 1: not even having a script to work with when filming begins, and 2: not even allowing the cast members to read an entire script, for fear they'll know too much (or better, think its bs). I would note key scenes that I thought were really great, but then that would spoil it for those who haven't seen it yet. My brother is taking his kids to see it this evening, then we'll be discussing it. I'm curious to know what his opinions of it will be. Maybe you guys will enjoy this one more than I did. And for those of us that still want more star wars, lucas has said they're turning the clone wars into a 30 minute 3d animated series, (not the cartoon network stuff that's done 3 seasons already), and that sometime next year they'll begin filming the first season of a live-action series for tv that takes place between ep3 and ep4. will be interesting to see how far he goes with this.

E.D.

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Well, here at 16:30pm local hour (withouth reservation, only half-full theatre, its a nice hour because people is at work and kids at school, I LOVE my new schedule) Ive watched SW-Revenge Of The Sith. Wow. I only can say: wow. Im not a SW crazy fan, but I waited very much of this movie, The End Of A Saga. I was afraid that it was defrauding myself. But not. And I have enjoyed it as a cow (have you seen a cow when lick with its enormous tongue? That was me: SLURPP, SLURPP, SLURPP...) I hate reveal details to people that havent watched a movie. Only my opinion. This is the BEST movie of the Second Trilogy (or First, sorry; but my favorite forever and ever is A New Hope). The action is awesome. The FX fantastic. Oh, but also is the DARKEST one of the six movies. Some strong scenes. Sorry, but my 5 years old kid must wait to the DVD; things on the silly-box looks less strongs, and ... a wide screen can impact a kid, the last minutes of Anakin Skywalker and firsts of Darth Vader in dolby surround arent properly for a lilboy. Hey, Im a madhead, but with a parent responsibility ;) Well, the dialogs arent any wonder. But A New Hope neither was Shakespeare :D And yes, George Lucas has weaved a complicated tapestry to join Episode II and Episode IV. You understand why Anakin is short and Darth Vader tall (heh); and why Jedis dissapeared; and how the Republic becomes on The Empire ... Waiting for the DVD to complete my collection. And ... I need a date to watch it again with my wife (LOL) WOW

I went to the opening here, Wednesday 18th at midnight.

For the first time, someone is really acting: Ian McDiarmid.
I enjoy the planets, ships, characters like I enjoy what you USsians call "comix". Brain to zero and dive in.
The main inconsitency is that in chapter27 (DVD Return of the Jedi) Leia says she has known her real mother and has some images left from her (in her mind). That she was always sad.

The entire story is classical, and could have been top if someone else had written the dialogs. Mr Lucas is not Richard Wagner. Unfortunately.
But I loved the way Palpatine and also Annakin pronounced "Peace and Justice". That made my night. It was really that other berserker for democracy speaking.

Visually, and action wise, it is the best one of the six. 4,5 and 6 suffer from hilarious attempts at funny valves to release some tension. (o, my poor pet is dead...argghhh!)

Annakin's final choice for P.is psychologically bizarre (to say the least).
But it's a spectacular, whirling videoclip, not exactly Shakespeare, but that's not the intention.
I liked it.
And will see it again.

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I have one thing to say about this movie. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! What a terrible way to ransack the festering corpse that was once star wars...

I did not bother seeing the movie. I was at barnes and noble's last month and saw the movie poster book for ep 3 that had pics and the dialoge under them so after taking 10 min to page thru it. I found out about the whole movie I have not watched any of the wars movies after the ep 6 came out years ago. Besides when it costs like 7.00 a ticket and another 12 or so for munchies. I'd rather rent it for 2.00, get some microwave popcorn for a 1.00, and a liter of soda for a 1.00 and sit down in front of the tv. The only movie I have seen in years at a theatre was phantom of the opera. The dvd I intend to buy after I pick up some stuff off daz3d... after all there are priorites (lol)

"Lucas hasn't learned a thing in 30 years, except how to sell toys and games." For what it's worth, he's learned a LOT about shooting a major film entirely digitally. My contacts at ILM claim that the process created major headaches and schedule setbacks on Episode II, but by virtue of trial-and-error learning, principle digital photography came in ahead of schedule on "Sith," granting the postproduction teams more time to fine-tune. I realize that the technical aspects of cinema are not enough to make a truly great film. Case in point: The Last Samurai. Beautiful cinematography, exquisite costumes and locations, wretchedly poor film. (Don't all flame me at once. It's a bad movie, ok?) Thing is, Carolly, and I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but for a lot of us, we KNOW that the newer Star Wars films are "bad movies," but kinda love 'em anyway, just because it's a return to the alternate universe that had such an influence on our lives, cultures, and aesthetics. Internationally. So, yeah, the dialogue stinks, the acting is mostly wooden, and Lucas ruins battle scenes with idiotic gag jokes. But what eye candy, and what fun as an overall event! I look forward to seeing "Sith" with my best friend and trashing the heck out of the flaws while secretly treating my inner 13-year-old boy to the fireworks. :-)

We saw it this afternoon and the cinema was half empty, yet tonights screenings where booked solid. As for the movie. I'm not posting any spoilers here, but it's a lot darker and grimer than empire. It's not a feel good movie like the originals. Some parts are bordering on the horrific, so for once the (in the UK) the 12a rating is fair. The acting and dialogue in some key scenes is worse than a soap opera. But the visuals are as ever stunning. But hey it's star wars so of course we'll watch it!

I don't care if the acting isn't great....it's not a remake of a perfectly good movie which was 90% of the posters I saw in the lobby the last time we went to the movies(or just that froo-froo feel good crap...If I'm gonna watch a silly movie it better have guns and explosions and flesh eating zombies)...besides the fact that it's Star Wars. And with these hints of darkness....I'm planning on truly loving this movie. Empire has always been my favorite because there was no "happy" ending. =)

I was thinking on the day where Ill finally have Episode IIIs DVD ... them Ill do the SW Marathon ... the six movies one-by-one... :D

I did this some months ago with the three LOTR EXTENDED VERSIONS ... I needed to sleep after an entire day and I couldnt find my eyes, but ... like a cow again :P

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Thumbs up! As I posted earlier I wasn't so crazy about Episodes 1 and 2, but I really liked this movie. The romance scenes were the weakest part of the movie, but didn't ruin it in my opinion. I will definitely see it again in the theaters. :^) Jay

Star Trek Rules

Star Wars drools

(running for cover)

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Things that people tend to forget that are worth remembering: George Lucas didn't direct the second and third "Star Wars" movies. Irvin Kershner and Richard Marquand did. (Look it up if you don't believe me). George Lucas didn't write the second and third movies. People like Lawrence Kasdan ("Body Heat", "Silverado") and Leigh Brackett ("To Have and Have Not", "Rio Lobo") did (just before she died). In order for George to be truly great...he needs help. He hasn't relied upon any help lately, hence the decline in storytelling. -jjsemp

Love it, or Hate it..you still can't ignore it :)Maybe I'll try to see it this weekend.

huzzah! unfortunately, I can't afford to go, so I'll wait until it comes out on cable or somethin'..;) it's a crazy world..thanks to all of the Star Wars fans for not rubbing in the demise of Star Trek prior to Star Wars..;)

Go my tickets a month in advance to see it tomorrow since my friends couldnt get tickets for tonight. I have grown up with these movies. I went with my dad,mom and baby bro who was still in womb to see the first star wars as a test audience in minnisota. I was 10 yrs old, LOL, my how time flys! My dad was so hooked he took everyone he knew to see it like every weekend, he tried to convert all to the glory of star wars. LOL. Wish he was still alive to see the new ones, I for one think he would have loved them. I dont ever get my hopes up for something it isnt going to be..I go for the fun, and thats what these movies are all about. Im excited to see "darth Vader" once again..that should be awsome. Plus Yoda battleing it out. Ohh and the Wookie planet. Wooooo! Cant wait to see chewie!

Well, like anything else, everyone has a different opinion. I skipped work, my kids skipped school, and the three of us, along with my wife and brother went to see the 10:30am show. We were blown away. I personally didn't like Empire as much as Return of the Jedi, and neither as much as a New Hope. (I hated Phantom Menace, and Clones, though IMO Darth Maul is second only to Vader in kick-assed-ness.) But these are my opinions, your results may vary. Now that I have seen e3, e1 and e2 make more sense on why they were done as they were done. Granted, this was no Shakespeare, but then, none of them were, and were never meant to be. This movie was all I could have ever asked Lucas for. I wanted dark, he made it midnight. I wanted visuals that would pop my eyes out without being Jar-Jar-ish, and (wait a sec while I pick up my cornea)...I wanted to know the answer to why this spoiled little brat became the baddest kick-ass in the galaxy, and I got an answer that couldn't be better. The only problem right now, I can't say too much without ruining the movie for anyone going to see it. Agreed that Lucas couldn't write a love scene if it meant him getting in the pearly gates, but then, if you spent 30 years playing with droids and referring to your manhood as a lightsabre, I doubt you could do much better ;-) I think Hayden Christensen did Vader total justice. I abhorred him in Clones for his performance as a bratty, pouty little turd. However, he played this one to perfection, at times I sat there thinking to myself, "Annie, don't do it!" Then had to smack myself back into the reality of knowing what was going to happen anyway...(I know I am not the only one, since we started talking about it as the credits rolled and the whole theater was saying the same thing.) Love him or hate him, Lucas did all the films his way. As far as Star Wars goes, let's keep in mind, he has always been clear that SW is his baby. He doesn't care if he makes people mad, or that people feel he isn't doing this one or that one justice. He has even clearly stated that anything that is not contained in the 6 movies is not canon, and can be changed by him at any time. Can you truly blame him? When he tried to pitch SW in the first place, he was scoffed at. His original deal fell through, and yet he persevered, to the point that he made something that makes most of us just sit and WOW to death. How many of us wish we could stand against those odds and produce something as groundbreaking and awe inspiring? Take it or leave it, that galaxy from long ago, and far far away is something of true legend. I thank George Lucas for taking my family and I across hyperspace. If I could ask just one thing of him, it would be, make another trilogy! Show me what happens to the Jedi under Luke while Mark Hammil is still breathing! And if you managed to read through this whole post without falling asleep, or throwing overrippened tomatoes at me, MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU!

You misunderstand me. By the first 2, I meant the ones which originally came out back in the 70s. Yes, I saw New Hope as an adult at a real theatre. It was not only fun, but Lucas gave us an expanded universe populated by strange beings while still having familiar archtypal characters. I hated the stupid droids, but liked Leia. The double sunset was magnificent. The entire audience APPLAUDED the jump into hyperspace. Went back the next night and stood in line for 4 hours. The next time I saw it, I had a deck of cards in my pocket and we played hearts while waiting. Empire Strikes Back had a better plot, and I liked Luke even more with a bit more depth to his character. One could feel some menace and some despair under the grinding machinery of empire. There was a sense of epic... that this was a battle worth fighting, even though it might be doomed. Return of the Jedi was a thudding disppointment. I hated the droids even more (ye gods, give me a screwdriver and 15 minutes!!!) and now there were fuzzy little teddy bear toys taking out war machines? Give me a break! And having Vader come back all blue and glowy and redeemed? Sheeeeee-it! NO! A man who has destroyed entire worlds full of innocent lifeforms (not just humans, but all life) is totally beyond redemption. Not killing your son is hardly an act of altruism! When I learned that Lucas was going to make the rest of the story, but was turning it into a biopic of Vader, I was wary. With good reason! Phantom Menace was a disaster. I hated the droids, and absolutely wanted to slap that spoiled brat into the next solar system. The age difference between Annie and Padme was hysterical. The adults were stupid beyond words. Midi-chondria? :gag: Jar-Jar? :barf: And Lucas took that vast wonderful universe and shrunk it into an afternoon spin in the jalopy: you can make 3 planetfalls by tea-time. :roll eyes: And the eternal pod-racing sequence was simply an ad for the video-game. :grrrr: That killed it. There was no way I was ever going to give him another nickel... either through movie tickets or game sales. He owns a third of one toy company and 20% of another and THAT is where his interests lie. Not in story-telling, but in selling plastic. I haven't seen the last 2 movies (as made) and don't intend to. My time is more valuable than that. Movies are story-driven. If there is no story, there is no movie, no matter how many special effects one strings together or how much you pay some good-looking actor/actress to headline it. Carolly

I just saw it and discovered that Casette is MY FATHER! :P

Needed more Wookiees. CGI Yoda and flesh-n-blood McDiarmid were the best actors in the film.

thanks to all of the Star Wars fans for not rubbing in the demise of Star Trek prior to Star Wars

The Star Trek franchise is over a decade older than Star Wars. So Star Wars has a bit longer to go to match that.

Basically, both franchises have descended into drek territory in recent years.

However -- regardless of whether Star Trek or Star Wars will have a continued existence on television -- they will both have reverted to their purest form.

In the bookstore.

Through myriad Star Trek novels, Captain Kirk will be just like James Bond -- eternally 35 years old.

The same thing goes for Han Solo.

It only took me 5 short years to go from 35 to 40. But for mythical characters like these -- they'll be 35 when they are 100. And they'll still be getting the girls.

After another generation or two (provided that we have that long yet to go), it'll be like that scene from The Running Man.......

"Mr. Spock, you have the com......."

"Who is Mr. Spock?"

+++++++

Oh......and the star of some old movie will be the governor of California.

Or perhaps the President.

The phantom menace and attack of the clones are really not so bad, they are just not as good as a new hope and the empire strikes back (most films arent ;) ). My favourite is a new hope. There will be a television program of star wars. I just hope it isn`t the jar jar binks story. :)

Well, the star of some old movie wasthe governor of California... and the President, also has a carrier named for him :-)