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Carrara F.A.Q (Last Updated: 2024 Nov 05 6:06 am)
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Thanks bwtr,
Your right, being lazy. Have tried in doudt. obj will not hold pose, just reverts the figure back to the start pose.
DXF, was close, held the pose but lost all domains, textures and mapping. Did have a nice white colour finish though.
3DS, Yes, this worked a treat, saved the pose, domains and mapping. Have to rebuild the shader tree. small price to pay.
Thanks again.
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Hi, It was already a .car file as it was one of my own skinned models.
Not sure on the size though. Might be a saved as Local settings?
Another problem now.
Saving as 3DS. is O'kay, Some of the vertices aren't attached to where they should be though, Re-importing the 3ds I tried to untraingle and save as an obj.
Not good, everything went a bit screwy.
Had another look at the 3ds file in Amapi and it's going to take a bit more remodelling than I hope'd to get it back to looking like an obj.
Still going to keep plugging away on this as I now have a purpose for this posed file.
Any suggestions?
Thanks again
Mike
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AAAAAHHHH!!!!!!
This is realy bugging me, have been trying for about 3 hours now.
3DS, is not good at all on fine detailed models. obj style 7000 poly models turn to 14000.
Which is going to be depressingly boring and time consuming to fix and then get back to work on it.
The untriangulate does not go the way I want it to.
And All the other export options triangulate.
I've also tried saveing as an obj. from the modelling room, while in animation mode.
Still reverts back to start position.
Any ideas?
Mike
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(If we are on the same wavelength)
In Poser ( gave James a fighting pose). Saved as pz3.
Brought into Carrara via Transposer(No link,animation or lighting)
In Carrara, saved the James shader into the browser.
Saved the file as .obj
Import the .obj into Carrara. Apply shader from browser.
The posed James .obj looks fine to me?
bwtr
Ah, No.
No poser involvement.
This is a character that I've modelled in Amapi D7, exported as an obj.
Then loaded into Carrara, rigged, skinned, domains and mapped.
Then after posing want to save as an obj with the pose holding.
I do find it odd that the 3ds and dxf exports seems to do this, but not the obj?
Any other idea's why this is not working?
Thanks again,
Mike.
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Okay, I do have some experience with this. You may want to have one character -bones - everything perfect in a default pose. From this model you save it - put it away, make a copy. With the copy, pose and save all the other copies you want and save as .car files - no lights, no extras at all. Then in your final scene you can import the .car files of each posed figures - no problem. I've done it with great results. The boned figures will need to be renamed but they come in grouped and your can move them around - already posed the way you left them - and you can change the scale without messing with the bones. Open the group to adjust the poses.
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Hi, guys
Thanks for the info, not realy what I'm getting at though.
Yes displacement in say "T" position would be right but again not what I'm after.
The thing is saving as obj after posing would then give the opertunaty to play with the mesh and add a solid base as well as make the figure water tight.
This would then be ready for proto-typing of the rapid veriaty. (3D printing)
Ominousplay-
Thanks for the interest in Pineapples, he's an ABC robot from the 2000AD comic.
The bones in the chest are there to help the skinning and also if required means that by changing the sive slightly up and down gives the effect of breathing.
There is a short 4 second animation that I've done (link below)
I had to use a different rig though, Mocap data was used, and depending on which data you use depends on the rig you need to install (at least thats how seems)
Thanks agin for the help.
Mike
http://www.box.net/public/r5tdmcm2ot
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What is 3D printing? What are you going to do with them? I saw an extension some time ago - free - took a morph and saved as an obj. in Carrara - but I don't know if it would do the same for a boned figure. Oh, your printing physical objects - from those new printers... that carve or print in plastic? Any links?
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Um, interesting.
Yeah, I've always felt a bit cheated when it comes to physical models of figures, poses are crap and you can never get the figure you want.
Now that this printing is available I thought "lets look into It"
I found this company. which looks quite promising.
http://www.inition.co.uk/inition/services_3d_printing.htm
But I want to get a good figure done before approaching them.
The file needs to be saved in an stl format, which I think, I found a converter for obj to stl.
(on me laptop somewhere)
It's my best mate's 40th Birthday in 6months, and he enjoys flight sims and physical modelling.
So I'm half way through modelling him a half and half fighter aircraft, that I was going to get printed (in a kinda kit form, with several parts) along with a figure for myself.
There isn't a problem with the aircraft as there are no moving parts, no bones.
But the figures are proveing to be more of a problem.
I may end up doing it the long way and saving as 3DS and then removeing the triagulations manually.
Thanks for the input ,
and any more idea's are welcome.
Mike
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Oh,
I have hex2, but I haven't realy had a play with it properly yet.
I have a tendancy to stick to things I know more about (Amapi)
Just had a quick look at the export options on Amapi, it does stl too.
Now I now this, it does bring me a bit closer to wanting the project to work.
Thanks again guys
If you have any more idea's let me know.
Mike
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Going back to the original question, have you tried 'Convert Deformed Object to Mesh' towards the bottom of the Edit menu. That works for me on a boned Carrara model (I've not got Poser installed). Make sure that the Vertex object (rather than the group) is selected. You can export directly as an OBJ or convert to a Vertex model for editing in the Carrara VM.
HTH
Thanks Dude,
Mike
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Okay, I'm having issues with exporting the .obj file. It worked for a while but wouldn't bring the texture back in, then it just stopped working and froze on export. Maybe you can figure it out. It works great if you wanted to convert a boned, posed mesh and make copies of it for populating a scene with posed, non-boned duplicates, then reposition the "master" model, and copy the pose - I can see it working for that application, but so I haven't been able to export a textured copy and bring it back in. Sorry.
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Had not noticed!
Some of the stuff on threads is so utterly bad that I must becoming immune.
Our State eduation authorities are now teaching --TEACHING!---the shorthand language of text messages as used in cell phones!
Think of it!----children can not read the great novels--OR technical text--because it uses unlearned REAL words!
bwtr
My apologies. I'm afraid it's an option that comes with the AnythingGrooves plugin from www.digitalcarversguild.com/.
I've had the plugin so long that I'd forgotten that that particular option was one of its features.
Not to push my method, but lookig back it wasn't that hard to do. Your shading zones are not difficult. Try not changing the base model to .obj first - I think you can skip that step. Go straight from the pose, using Convert to Mesh (AssociatedFX) free extension, then bring the new "mesh" into vertex room, then add your new shader zones, then out as OBJ in Carrara - then back and do any other shader adjustments... not too difficult.
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Hi.
I was wondering if it is possible to save a character in a pose as an obj file,
so that it can be re-imported for further work to be carried out.
And possibly import several to save on memory usage.
I was working on a scene with multipule characters posed separately, and then imported into the scene.
Problem was, it was taking 5-10mins to save and load, as well as being very slow when running, and crashing at the drop of a hat (normally when saving)
Any ideas?
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