Hi Everyone,
I know people disable comments due to personal reasons. For example unable to comment on others work and some bad comments on previous images, etc. And i know its their choice.
But i personally like to comment on an image i have seen. Just my opinion.  I go through the photography gallery not by artists but by  the image thumb i view.
Just wondering what other members think of disabled comment boxes. Plus their seems to be more and more photographers doing it. Which i find ashame because their work is outstanding.
What is your opinion on the subject as we all have different views.
Chris

Helo dear Dianthus,

did you read my post about it here in the forum ?

Comments are great if they are really constructives (positive or negative) ... Do you receive often contructive comments ?

I think some photographers here are sure of their art or they want some comment like 'very nice pic, i like it'... I'm not sure... but ... may be ....

I 'want' comments lol but contructives .. if you don't like my pics, ok ! tell me ! but don't just tell 'berk, i don't like it', explain why !!

.. it's just my point of view...

Olivier

I have disabled comments on some images a while back, but quickly got the request to allow comments again. I disabled them for various reasons... because I didn't comment myself, and because I wasn't happy with the fact that some people expressly comment on every image except mine (probably because I don't comment back). I understand now that disabling comments is like denying people a voice to speak out, in some way and to some extent. I think alot of people who comment do this because they want to express something, not because they expect something back... and that's great. As for the ones who disable comments: that's just fine with me... the Photography gallery is there to show images, strictly speaking, not to write about it... that's a different gallery alltogether ;o))

Interesting tread Chris!
Personaly I feel "locked " out of comenting on a nice perfect art . Very offen I also feel the member who disable coment option doesn't realy want to hear what we think of his/hers picture. If we want to coment on those blocked pictures we always can do it on IM, so what is a point. Log in early in a morning and see " you have 36 new messages " ? what a trill!...grow up!

Geert pointed out right.....we not comenting on pictures so they have to coment back....or do we? I am not...!!

I understand if some member said something hurting on a picture towards another artist and action will follow (disable coment)....happened just a few days ago with one of our member. Shame on those people who envy great artist and try to trash them. 

seeya  Tunde

I can't speak for anyone else, but I have disabled comments a couple of times,  in the past and it had nothing to do with my receiving negative comments or anything of that sort. I did it because I knew I wasn't going to be around and able to comment.

I guess I'm in the minority on this issue, but I feel I should allow comments only when I can leave some comments myself. It just doesn't sit right with me to 'take' ( metaphorically ) and not give back...if that makes any sense. :^ /

And lol, no one ever wrote me asking me to allow comments, either...But maybe that's because I stink or something...lol. ;^P

I'm not sure if i have disabled comments in the past - but i know i have thought about it, and the main reason for that was that most of the comments you tend to receive are of the "oo that's nice" variety... whilst it is nice to know someone appreciates your work, on the other hand i could show the same photo to friend or family and they would say the same - it is just an ego rub in my book.  My main reason for posting on here is to get some sort of feedback about the shot in a photographic/artistic sense.  That was one of the driving forces behind my suggestion for the constructive critique thread, because not enough (imo) is being given in the galleries.

that is what goes through my mind when i consider not letting people comment, but on the other hand you do get the odd honest reply to a shot which outweighs all the other standard replies of admiration because then you learn. So in my reasoning i allow comments on the off chance someone will say something which will make me think.

As for those who do disable comments, i think they have the right to if they feel they dont have the time to, or cant, give any back... a community spirit kind of thing.

Exactly Rich...so many  " woow and cool and hugs" but you got 2-3 what is helping you achive for better shots next time. Disable a coment and miss a chance to get those helpfull advises. If not today them tomorrow...

I agree too, members have a right to do what ever they want with their upload, have coments or not their own choice....no force and no law  to act againts it!

seeya  Tunde

Okay...so i´m one of those who doesn´t allow comments. And i just gotta ask what Tunde meant by this:

"Very offen I also feel the member who disable coment option doesn't realy want to hear what we think of his/hers picture. If we want to coment on those blocked pictures we always can do it on IM, so what is a point. Log in early in a morning and see " you have 36 new messages " ? what a trill!...grow up!"***

In my case i strongly disagree. Actually i take offense to that ignorant reply. Grow up??? Yeesh. :huh: I guess i need to grow up then because i rather wake up getting 36 new messages than getting 36 ebots saying i got a comment.

I didn´t disable comments because i don´t wanna hear what people think of my upload or anything. And it has nothing to do either with me worrying that people will expect of me to start back-commenting on theirs. It just has to do with my own concience. I can´t in good concience sit back and read all the generous feedback being left on my uploads when i don´t have the time nor the energy to do the same thing myself. I wouldn´t accept free dinners at my neighbours house every day without ever paying them back......i would never be able to let my other neighbours walk Eija if they wouldn´t let me walk their dog as well every now and then. I wouldn´t....you catch my drift don´t you? So that´s why i can´t allow comments on my uploads. It conflicts with my concience. And we´re all individuals so we all have different kind of conciences....and mine forbids me to "take" something without giving anything back. It´s as simple as that. There is no higher form of greed in my book, than people expecting comments when they don´t comment themselves.

And this isn´t an RR-phenomena in my case either. I don´t allow comments on any of the sites i belong to. And like Tunde bluntly said....if people really wishes to tell me how they feel about my photos...then they can actually send me an IM or email. It´s the same amount of typing in one of those as it is in a comment-box isn´t it? But people don´t do that here. Instead they are telling those artists to start allowing comment and they insists on doing that in public as well.....probably so that they themselves can look good. At least that´s how i interpretate it. Why is it otherwise that i keep being told i need to start allowing comments again here in the forum....but i never ever get an email telling me to? Yesterday i uploaded a photo to the gallery here that so far got 137 viewings...but no IMs telling me if it´s any good or bad. I also uploaded it to another site.....as my first upload there actually.....and i got 10 IMs within the first hour. And i don´t even know anyone there.

I think all artistic sites are basically the same in most ways. You only get comments if you comment yourself, there´s always popularity-votes being casted and so on. But i can in all honesty say...that i have never come across a site where people are more obsessed with comments. And i may come off as rather bitter or cynical now...but i assure you i´m not, i´m just being reasonable....but i keep seeing how people respond to these kind of threads saying how they are grateful for whatever amount of comments they get or how they don´t expect anyone to comment back on theirs. Sorry...but generally speaking....that´s bullshit. I got plenty of IMs (old ones...ever since i stopped commenting myself...that kind of communication also ended with most folks) from people telling me how they´re leaving RR because they´re not getting "enough attention and reckognition". And they´re always comparing their work to someone elses saying "I can´t belive that person became GOM"...or "how could that person get twice as many comments when he/she is only half as good as me". And how many of you haven´t followed an ebot to your favorite artists upload only to discover that that person has already pulled it because of lack of comments. And what a waste of time that was for those poor souls that had already commented on it.....but apparently their comments wasn´t worth more than that. Why would they otherwise delete those uploads? Well because those uploads bring down the average status for them. Then these artists turn around when they´re in public.....saying how comments don´t matter to them and that they´re grateful for whatever they may get....yada yada yaday (watched Seinfeld last night, LOL). Sorry...but i´m rather tired of this comment-obsessive behaviour that´s running through these RR-veines. Where else can you read as many topics in the forums about comments/commenting as in this place? They should actually open up an entirely new forum for that alone, lol. :tt2:

I looooove getting comments just as much as the next guy....or ga´l......i love the interaction between people. I really couldn´t care less about the quality of the comment. It don´t matter to me if it´s constructive or not. I valued the interaction between my fellow members a helluva lot more than any kind of advice i could ever have gotten from any comment.

And why don´t we perform an autopsy on that word as well while we´re at it shall we...."constructive critizism"..alot of people are asking for constructive critizism...but when they get it...they flip out. Personally i have delivered constructive critizism a bunch of times...mostly small stuff...like tilted horizons. :tt2: And once it ended with that person deleting that persons entire gallery. A few of the other times it has resulted in them deleting that particular upload. And alot of the times it has resulted in me getting nasty comments back from them as retaliation if you will. And funny enough....alot of those people have actually asked for constructive critizism. So i´m sorry....but commenting at this site...where most people claim they don´t expect any but get pissed as hell when they don´t get "enough".....and even more pissed if it´s the least negative....is just not something that´s very appealing to me. And it´s harder here than any place else....even though you see more and more people getting away with copying and pasting comments here.....which is just about the biggest insult i can think of. But lets not get into that now. :biggrin:

So in conclusion....of this really really loooooong rant...i shall say this: I miss getting comments. I really do. I don´t miss them because i´m hoping to learn something from them....but I really miss the interaction and friendships that came with them....but i discovered that you only have those friendships as long as you´re commenting though. So it makes you wonder what kind of friendship that really was to begin with. I´ve made a few close friends here that i stay in touch with. But all those other people who claimed to be my friends....they ceased to exist the very moment i stopped commenting on their uploads. And whenever i occassionaly leave a comment in their gallery, they immidiatly send me an IM as to recapture our lost friendship or whatever. I think that speaks volumes don´t you? So....if you´re feeling robbed by not being able to comment on certain images. Then please send that guy or girl an IM. Like i stated before...it doesn´t require all that much more typing. And I can assure you...they will appriciate that single IM more than 20 comments combined. ....unless they of course are hung up on numbers and statistics. :tt2:

OH GOD!!! Will ya look at that!!! :blink: I don´t think i´ve typed that much in all the threads i´ve replied to this year...combined. Yeeesh...i sure do know how to ramble huh? :blushing:

P.S. Not allowing comments used to be the only way you could escape the stress alot of us felt about spending too much time online. But now it seems you´re actually a bad guy for not allowing them...like that kind of behaviour now is offensive or something. :sad:

I think most people who take photographs have some they are proud off and want to 'show' others. They are not looking for anyone to say 'it's alright But'.  It is just 'this is my photo of this ' and I am proud of it. 

A lot of people look at an image and think I like that, but how many stop to think Why do I like that? Most are just happy to like it and say just that. No more no less.

I leave a comment on photos that stand out for me, sometimes it's the POV, or the Composition, even the mood or DOF. Others I like I don't comment on because they have so many comments mine would be just another number.

Everyone has their own way of 'seeing'  whether in taking  or in viewing a taken photo, some ask for help in this but at the end of the day it has to be their photo and not a photo taken by them the way someone else has said they should take it. Constructive critique on the other hand is asked for to help improve different aspects of the capture in the next photo and an IM to offer suggestions would be IMHO much better than to add it to the photo on show.

I allow comments but I don't allow ratings, It is enough for me to know you like it, why you like it would be nice but how much better than the rest you think it is doesn't do anything for me.  

Just my take on it, rambled on a bit but then again thats me.

Pat

Let's start with that....Not only you Andreas blocking a coments, others  too!! I am not addressing nobody I just tell my oppinion and attitude towards a matter. It is a crime?  If you not feel a way I described it in my lines, why you feel insulted? 

I have nothing to do with none of you, I don't have to look good and cool in nobodies eyes! Yes I do have a few friends I share some thoughts in IM and actually they reply to me,except one!! I never show off for them and they not doit either. Don't need, is not a requested by no one.

Some member not as high as others in taking photography, they need a bit of encouragment by coments, so please don't call it bullshit. You might don't need, I realy greatfull for that, but some rely on it to get a camera and go shot again and a next day capture something again. You just walk over their feeling....good one!

Appology for Chris., I belive you didn't want this tread going down hill this way ... I am part of it to cause it sorry!

seeyus Tunde

Oh wow!!!! You sure do know how to take things the wrong way don´t you? I don´t think you could have misunderstood me more even if you had tried. :blink: Amazing.

And no of course it´s not a crime for you to express your feelings on a matter. So why would it be that when i do so as well? :tt2:

Don't you think you take a whole lot too personaly? Possible I actually pointed out something what is apply on you? Was unattentionaly trust me. I have plenty of time but not for this, makes me sick in a stomach.

seeya  Tunde

**Hmmm okay i just read what others  thought of disabled comments. Just goes to show how different we all are.
Andreas i wouldnt mind being your neighbour and cooking each night if you and your family busy.hehe. Specially with a baby due soon. Oh those days i cant wait to hear of your wonderful news soon.
I wasnt personally pointing finger at anyone. Just wanted to know what you guys thought of disabled comments.
I dont comment for sake of commenting on others. Never comment only on ones who comment on mine. Just browse through photography gallery and comment on image that i want to. When i have time.
Just personally would love to also comment on ones that disable comments. Because these images usually are exquisite and i would love to tell them. Some i do IM but lately their seems to be more and more doing it. And i just wondered why?
I can understand if the artist doesnt have time to comment on others. But for me that doesnt matter. Doesnt play any bearing to whether i comment on their image or not.
So for those who disable comments due to good manners because they dont comment. Well that is very kind of you.  But i want the opportunity to comment. Specially when that image is unbeleivable. Takes me more time to get im message done than commenting straight on image page.
Also i dont comment on just those who comment on mine. And i love knowing what others thing and feel for that image.
Just would like the opportunity to comment on those images and i dont care if you dont comment on mine.
I am a true pisces and love to be able to express my feeling for that image. Just a personal trait of mine.lol.  Artistic temperament  wonder what next.
Chris
ps Tunde you dont have to apologise. I love how your being honest and expressing your feelings. That why i asked this question to find out what was happening.

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No comment.

:tongue2:

Frankly, I don't have enough confidence in many of my shots to turn off comments..to me "no comments" is a fairly strong position to take, for what might be the reason.  To each his or her own.   This is neither a positive or negative choice..simply a personal choice as I view the issue.          Tom.       

All here need to go to a nice night spot and enjoy the evening together..peacefully and no photo talk for a while.  Humm...or a nice clam bake on the beach.  'twould be easy to see each of us is an individual of many directions in such a setting.

Everyone has there own reasons for not allowing comments, I used to alow comments on all my images, but when I started uploading more than one (1) at a time I thought it a little unfair that people felt obliged to leave a comment on all images, personally I don't comment on all images from a series, but having said that, I've come to realise not everyone has something to say & others have more to say, the the choise I will now leave to the viewer, leave a comment or don't........Thanks for your time in  looking.

Stuart

I havent yet disabled comments, but I have done away with allowing ratings and rating myself as I find that to be the truelly annoying part of the galleries. Its over inflated and many times people feel that they have to leave a "5" just to protect their own images.

Im afraid, I have to agree with Andrea's on this one. I too have turned off comments on my posts, for various reasons, some of them similar to what he has mentioned above, and some personal.
IMHO, nobody here has the RIGHT to comment on someones image, and as for feeling "locked out" well... tough... Renderosity has always been a community site, where we have many privileges afforded to us at NO cost. Everything here is actually a privilege, not a god given right, whether it be to post or comment. As I mentioned on my first post, where I turned off comments etc... I have truly benefited in the past from helpful and kind advice from the artists here, but quite frankly Id rather contact a person here via IM or email for advice if I felt I needed it, than receive decontructive, dumbass comments. Its offensive, and its behaviour I can live without. Apologies if this point of view offends anyone.

"I´m afraid, I have to agree with Andrea's on this one."

Awww! How depressing is that....that you actually feel you have to apologize for agreeing with me. :tt2: LOL.

About what you wrote Tom...about not having enough confidence in alot of your photos to NOT allow comments. I don´t think anyone of us rely on the comments to reassure us if we should post the photo or not. At least none of us should. It´s been said a thousand times over: People basically trade comments here. And i think we all know that people are rarely 100% honest in their comments anyway. So why read more into them than you should? If you´re happy with the photo...then post it. Don´t hold back or delete it because you´re worried it wont appeal to the crowd. I´m not whining about that or anything...that´s just the way it is here and that´s how it´s always been...and always will be. I have always been soooo grateful for every comment i´ve ever gotten....but i have never allowed them to get to my head as unfortunatly it has for some who get plenty of comments. Probably because i have also uploaded the same photos to pure photosites where i would get max 3-4 comments...and all of them saying how i should improve this or that....compared to the 60-70 gushing and praising comments i got here. And that is something i´ve always said....people should post their photos elsewhere as well to stay grounded. Maybe then we wouldn´t have the same level of arrogance here as we´ve gotten lately.

 I once did an experiment to prove this point to someone who felt he didn´t get "enough" comments. I explained that in order to get alot of comments you gotta be willing to make that effort yourself. So i re-uploaded a photo that was one of the first photos i ever posted at this site. Back then it got 3 comments.....but this time it got 65. And about that...what is "enough" comments anyway? The average number an image at RR gets is 8. And i know people who have deleted their uploads because they felt it deserved more than the 40 (!!!!) comments it got. How´s that for a slap in the face on those who get below average on their every upload? Not to mention on those who wasted their time to begin with by actually commenting on someone that ungrateful. Unfortunatly it is more about the quantity than the quality here. People actually copy and paste comments for god´s sake. Can someone honestly tell me they rely on that kind of comments when deciding if they should post a photo or not?

I just started uploading some of my photos to this "model-site" where people get up to 3-4000 viewings on their photos....but rarely more than 10-15 comments. Still i have yet to see anyone there complain or wonder how come they´re not getting more comments. So i don´t think "not allowing comments" here is such a strong position to take after all. Like i said in my previous reply.....i don´t miss comments because they validated my upload in any way...but i miss them only because they meant you were interacting with fellow members....and that i do indeed miss.

Oh...and if you don´t mind Chris...i´m very fond of pasta. So if ya could hook me up with some macaronies at least 4 nights a week...that´d be super! :thumbupboth:

Ooops...it seems me rambled on again. Me better go grab me some dinner before i head off to work. Have a wonderful weekend everyone.

Ik weiger te becommentarien omdat ik kan beschuldigen. Honolulu. :m_peace:

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!! Enjoying your friday i see. :biggrin:

I just wanted say if anyone wants to put some dumbass comments on any of my images I'm more than happy to accept them without complaint

CMNMOET :m_tongue2:

( Sigh...I'm such a geek....:m_hide:)

Andreas, perhaps I felt the ones who do not allow comments are more confident in the image and their abilities than I am.  As for comments received, I judge the value by the knowledge I have of the commentator.  Some are fluff and fun..others more serious and to be taken that way. At least, that is how I see it.

Maybe I just enjoy getting comments! Still, for my personal thought, that does not make or break the image unless I have really screwed up and can see that from the comments..time for edit again or what.

Yup that is definitly the way to look at it. I couldn´t agree more with what you´re saying Tom.

Kort what does Ik weiger te becommentariëren omdat ik kan beschuldigen.
Honolulu actually mean?
Oh me good cook and will do different pasta dishes for you Andreas.
As for this thread i created it was nice to actually find out why some disable their comments and what others thought.
We are all different and artisitic in our own ways. Also artistic temperament is allowed for us as we are artistists.hehehe
Anyway thanks guys and girls for sharing honestly your points of view on this topic. Now i better go and check out Onslow images so i leave a comment or two.hehehe.
Have a great weekend.
Chris

I got a little sidenote-rant now if you´ll be kind enough to endulge me. LOL.

This is something i run into every now and then when browsing the gallery:

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1404288

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1404411

These are 2 Poser-renders that has accidently been put in the Photo-gallery, causing them to not get the proper attention or appriciation they probably is hoping for. One of those actually has 170 viewings but nobody is telling these people about their mistake. Why is that? Aren´t the comments suppose to be helpful? Wouldn´t we want people from lets say the Terragen-community to tell us if we had accidently uploaded a photo to their gallery? But i guess since people have nothing personal to gain from leaving such a comment, they simply don´t bother. Anyway....hopefully these will be moved by the time you click the links. I just thought i´d share something i feel is really sad....and typical for this place. :mellow:

When i was co ordinator we often come across different images in wrong gallery  and change them to correct gallery. It takes alot of time and some do slip by. But i dont honestly know why someone didnt im them to let them know. Specially those people who commented on them. Just one of those things matie.
Chris