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TheBryster ( ) posted Thu, 26 April 2007 at 3:28 PM · edited Fri, 13 December 2024 at 9:42 AM
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It is my belief that all of us here in the Bryce Forum are split into 4 groups.

1, Bryce Gurus - Those that know everything there is to know about Bryce. (That would be Rochr.)
2, Bryce Cardinals - Those who believe there is only one true app. (Guess who fits that bill?)
3, Bryce Newbies - Those who know very little about Bryce (But are nice people who want to learn)
4, Heretics - Those that think Bryce is just a landscaper and that there are other apps. (Spawn of Satan who will be damned for all time.)

Where do you fit in?

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Ang25 ( ) posted Thu, 26 April 2007 at 3:31 PM

E - none of the above :tt2:


pakled ( ) posted Thu, 26 April 2007 at 3:55 PM

Heretic...heck I modeled the comfy chair..;) 

I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit

anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)


Death_at_Midnight ( ) posted Thu, 26 April 2007 at 3:55 PM

Is there any slot between cardinal and newbie?


aprilgem ( ) posted Thu, 26 April 2007 at 4:13 PM · edited Thu, 26 April 2007 at 4:14 PM

I'm:

5, Occasional Bryce User - Those who use Bryce only every now and then, acknowledge that it's a powerful tool that can accomplish a number of things, know how to use it, but use a variety of other programs with or without Bryce when doing their work.


danamo ( ) posted Thu, 26 April 2007 at 4:43 PM

Ahem, well, since I am a self-admitted "heretic" and I never looked so great in that garish shade of red that Cardinals favor(besides, those carmine satin undies feel weird!) I guess I could be pigeon-holed into category 4. Even though I know quite a lot about Bryce, I would never have the hubris or self-delusional belief that I belong in category 1. I have built many models using only Bryce and made numerous textures and animations in Bryce which I have used in other "heretical apps". I don't think that Bryce is "just a landscaper". I know it is capable of much more. I do however cheerfully adopt any app which will make my workflow easier and give me good results. I never quite understood how SILO was recognized as an approved app by his Eminence, and Wings was not. Could it be that he could wrap his head around the former, and not the latter? Perhaps Cardinal TheBryster gets "kickbacks" from Nevercenter.
Yes, you can call me a heretic, but never a hypocrite. ;-P


Rochr ( ) posted Thu, 26 April 2007 at 5:26 PM · edited Thu, 26 April 2007 at 5:32 PM

That number 5 sounded resonably accurate in my case. :)

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Digital Artist
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ek-art ( ) posted Thu, 26 April 2007 at 5:27 PM

I am a cardinal!!! 
I have several other apps sitting on my pc, but I only use Bryce...

I'm also the eternal Newbie!!!  - I don't know much, I want to learn, but it's a slow process :)

Come join the Rendergods!


dvlenk6 ( ) posted Thu, 26 April 2007 at 5:34 PM · edited Thu, 26 April 2007 at 5:36 PM
  1. Heretic
    I think Bryce is far more than just a landscaper; but has limitations that cannot be overcome with the current version of the app.

I will use whatever tool is best suited to do any given job.

Friends don't let friends use booleans.


tom271 ( ) posted Thu, 26 April 2007 at 5:42 PM

I'm a little of 2 and of 4....   All I use is Bryce for all my renders....    but I do little modeling in Bryce. all my modeling is in Rhino...  and I certainly do not know all that there is about Bryce..



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Death_at_Midnight ( ) posted Thu, 26 April 2007 at 6:37 PM · edited Thu, 26 April 2007 at 6:51 PM

Greetings again.

Oh I'm not sure how to classify myself. I wrote this big explaination, but it comes down to this: I love Bryce, it's my only renderer. I'm not a newbie. I'm amazed how much there is to learn with it. My models tend to be hybrids between a CAD package (SolidWorks, which was reviewed in issue 89 (I think) of 3DWorld magazine) and Bryce. I'll do a model segment in Solidworks then finish it in Bryce. But Bryce is my favorite and primary 3D app.

I wouldn't mind being a cardinal. I love Bryce enough, yet my motto is "let the computer do the work" meaning use tools to get the job done. Yet because I love Bryce a lot I'm always thinking how to render it in Bryce, or how to finish it in Bryce. Bryce Bryce all the way.

So I guess this anthropomorphic being could be listed as 6? Someone who loves Bryce, promotes it, use other software occationally to suppliment Bryce, yet does not use the heresy software.

Does this make sense?  I wouldn't mind the red robes of a cardinal... I shall become known as The Red Death.... ;-)


RodsArt ( ) posted Thu, 26 April 2007 at 6:53 PM

Yes, like many of you I have this steel ball implanted in my forehead with little arrows on it, so I'm not sure if a category even exists for that because I occasionally push it back in under the skin so I'm not cross-eyed and can see in 2-D(PS).

Maybe a closet-Heretic??

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Ockham's razor- It's that simple


tom271 ( ) posted Thu, 26 April 2007 at 8:11 PM

are they gona come and get me now?



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alexclark ( ) posted Thu, 26 April 2007 at 8:48 PM · edited Thu, 26 April 2007 at 8:49 PM

ummm... I started with Bryce, been using it for years, its my favourite app and I can't see anything replacing it. I don't consider myself a newbie, but I still learn something new every day. Everything finishes up in Bryce, one way or another, but I'm also definitely a heretic, being a Wings and GeoControl user (is GeoControl heresy? - I'm not sure). On the other hand I've used Booleans to do diagrams for university projects. So... I dunno.


Death_at_Midnight ( ) posted Thu, 26 April 2007 at 11:20 PM

Cool! I've used Bryce to illustrate biology papers :-)


sackrat ( ) posted Fri, 27 April 2007 at 1:51 AM

Bryce Who ?

"Any club that would have me as a member is probably not worth joining" -Groucho Marx


donniemc0 ( ) posted Fri, 27 April 2007 at 3:37 AM

hmm...would a cross between 3 and 4 be a herbie?

 


tjohn ( ) posted Fri, 27 April 2007 at 3:37 AM

I refuse to be pigeon-holed (which sounds vaguely dirty, somehow). :^)

This is not my "second childhood". I'm not finished with the first one yet.

Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana.

"I'd like to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather....not screaming in terror like the passengers on his bus." - Jack Handy


scoleman123 ( ) posted Fri, 27 April 2007 at 8:48 AM

Bryce Cardinal

yup, thats me...

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Gog ( ) posted Fri, 27 April 2007 at 9:19 AM

If 5) is good enough for Rudy.......

well ok I'm not on a par with Rudy's work, I'm heretic who uses other apps, I still enjoy brycing, but it's pretty rare and I'm not even sure if :cough: I'm going to upgrade to version 6....

But this is still one of the best forums and you ain't ever going to get rid of me!

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vangogh ( ) posted Fri, 27 April 2007 at 11:59 AM

I use Bryce for 100% of my renders, but I just can't help playing around with really old apps like Adobe Dimensions (a vector based 3d prog) and Ray Dream Studio (where most of my modeling is done). so....does this make me an old outdated heretic, or what!


Analog-X64 ( ) posted Fri, 27 April 2007 at 1:31 PM

I'm a permanent Bryce newbie. :)


skiwillgee ( ) posted Fri, 27 April 2007 at 8:28 PM · edited Fri, 27 April 2007 at 8:28 PM

Senor Most Honored Cardinal of the Track Ball with arrows order,

It has come to may attention that there is a number of parish members who fear not your wrath and comfy chair.  Because of your hesitant use of rack and irons your grip may be loosening.  The evils and sins outside Brycedom draws many.  I must confess I have been drawn to the dark side.  I now occassionally use crayons.  Forgive me.


TheBryster ( ) posted Fri, 27 April 2007 at 8:37 PM · edited Fri, 27 April 2007 at 8:38 PM
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*It has come to may attention that there is a number of parish members who fear not your wrath and comfy chair.  Because of your hesitant use of rack and irons your grip may be loosening.  *
No one escapes the iron grip of Cardinal Bryster! 
FYI: The Cardinals of this forum use only the finest down feathers and the most costly of cloth when constructing comfy chairs in order that we can make our inquieries more effect. You do not want to see a Cardinal and a comfy chair inthe same room.

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All the Woes of a World by Jonathan Icknield aka The Bryster


And in my final hours - I would cling rather to the tattooed hand of kindness - than the unblemished hand of hate...


dvlenk6 ( ) posted Fri, 27 April 2007 at 9:56 PM

Cydonia, Mars is a long way from where I live. 😉

Friends don't let friends use booleans.


Ang25 ( ) posted Sat, 28 April 2007 at 1:01 AM

**wonders why she hasn't been strapped into the cardinal's comfy chair as of yet

is eagerly awaiting this*


TheBryster ( ) posted Sat, 28 April 2007 at 6:58 AM
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Ang: Art thou a sinner? Doth thou crave the sting of yonder comfy chair?
Or will you just settle for a quick whipping? :lol:

Available on Amazon for the Kindle E-Reader

All the Woes of a World by Jonathan Icknield aka The Bryster


And in my final hours - I would cling rather to the tattooed hand of kindness - than the unblemished hand of hate...


sackrat ( ) posted Sat, 28 April 2007 at 10:32 AM

Comfy chair, smomfy chair,..........I fear thou not ! 

If it doesn't kill you, it will make you wish it had.

"Any club that would have me as a member is probably not worth joining" -Groucho Marx


pakled ( ) posted Sat, 28 April 2007 at 12:15 PM

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but it really gets nasty when you're poked with the soft cushions..;) The Cardinal awaits..;)

I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit

anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)


Death_at_Midnight ( ) posted Sat, 28 April 2007 at 12:41 PM

*cringes at the thought of comphy pillows!


Ang25 ( ) posted Sat, 28 April 2007 at 1:18 PM

Dang I don't remember writing about the comfy chair. And yes I have a bit of a hang over today.


FranOnTheEdge ( ) posted Sat, 28 April 2007 at 8:28 PM · edited Sat, 28 April 2007 at 8:29 PM

I love playing with materials and textures, but there are still areas in Bryce where I am a complete newby - wish I had the time to remedy that.

And I ain't gonna mention other apps... edges away from the comfy chair.

Does that make me a Herbie too?

Measure your mind's height
by the shade it casts.

Robert Browning (Paracelsus)

Fran's Freestuff

http://franontheedge.blogspot.com/

http://www.FranOnTheEdge.com


Death_at_Midnight ( ) posted Sat, 28 April 2007 at 10:48 PM

It is official ;-)  I am a "postulant Cardinal".


bikermouse ( ) posted Sun, 29 April 2007 at 4:59 AM

Hey Bryster, as long as you're buyin' the beer you can call me anything you want !!!


TheBryster ( ) posted Sun, 29 April 2007 at 6:56 AM
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LOL @ BM !!!

I am pleased to announce that D&M has been eleveated to the rank of 'Postulant Cardinal' pending approval of the other Cardinals, the inspection of his pc and his bank account.

(Just kidding about the bank account)

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All the Woes of a World by Jonathan Icknield aka The Bryster


And in my final hours - I would cling rather to the tattooed hand of kindness - than the unblemished hand of hate...


pakled ( ) posted Sun, 29 April 2007 at 3:06 PM

they make a cream for postules...;)

I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit

anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)


TCsolar ( ) posted Sun, 29 April 2007 at 4:01 PM

me would be a bryce newbie... yup, no question about it...

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Free downloads just for bryce
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My personal work, right here


chohole ( ) posted Mon, 30 April 2007 at 4:05 AM

Like Ang I am none of them. Mostly a heretic I suppose, according to TheBryster, but with redeeming features.

The greatest part of wisdom is learning to develop  the ineffable genius of extracting the "neither here nor there" out of any situation...."



Ang25 ( ) posted Mon, 30 April 2007 at 3:52 PM

Heretics have more fun :biggrin:


danamo ( ) posted Mon, 30 April 2007 at 4:30 PM

Oh Well, we may have lost D_a_M to TheBryster's clutches, but I'm feeling all warm and fuzzy since Pam and Ang admitted they were Heretics too.


chohole ( ) posted Mon, 30 April 2007 at 4:51 PM

Yeah, lets start a heretics party and really have some fun  😄

The greatest part of wisdom is learning to develop  the ineffable genius of extracting the "neither here nor there" out of any situation...."



FranOnTheEdge ( ) posted Tue, 01 May 2007 at 2:52 AM

Quote - Heretics have more fun :biggrin:

Hey, now that's true!  I think I wanna be a Heretic...

Measure your mind's height
by the shade it casts.

Robert Browning (Paracelsus)

Fran's Freestuff

http://franontheedge.blogspot.com/

http://www.FranOnTheEdge.com


Ang25 ( ) posted Tue, 01 May 2007 at 6:15 AM

Ok we got Fran and Dan on our side.


Gog ( ) posted Tue, 01 May 2007 at 6:26 AM

Did someone mention a heretics party??? I'm in ;)

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pakled ( ) posted Tue, 01 May 2007 at 3:49 PM

I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit

anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)


UVDan ( ) posted Tue, 01 May 2007 at 4:30 PM
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**I do not know  where I fit in here.  I do my modeling in other apps, but I always come back to Bryce for the scene setup and render.  I model in Rhino, but their flagship rendering engine, Flamingo, which costs twice as much as Bryce, is a pile of stinking crap.  I can spend 6 intense and frustrating hours trying to get a texture right and then switch over to Bryce and have it in 5 minutes or less.  And Flamingo will not animate, do landscapes, water, or clouds.   Makes me wonder why people use it.

I always recommend Bryce to folks over in the Rhino forum.**

Free men do not ask permission to bear arms!!


skiwillgee ( ) posted Tue, 01 May 2007 at 6:31 PM

Count me in on the party.  In the other thread (D@M now a minion of Bryster)  I was told to be very afraid.  I might as well go out with a bang.


Dann-O ( ) posted Tue, 01 May 2007 at 7:45 PM · edited Tue, 01 May 2007 at 7:46 PM

Heritics you say. Well just because I use other apps. I suggest a new catagory. Original bryce user the anchients. Those who used Bryce 1.0 on a 6800 mac when it first came out. Those who were using Bryce in the glory days of yore. All this talk of heritics unless you used Bryce 1.0 must cease. We rendered a non reflective sphere on a flat plane in 6 hours at 400x400 and we liked it. Back before Bryce would import anything import models what a feature for the soft. No metaballs no imports and we thought it was great.

The wit of a misplaced ex-patriot.
I cheated on my metaphysics exam by looking into the soul of the person next to me.


danamo ( ) posted Tue, 01 May 2007 at 10:54 PM

Lol, that was a while ago, wasn't it? I didn't start with Bryce until .ver2. You know the one; the boxcover art was Eric Wenger's beautiful lake scene with the Red Japanese Torii gate?. Anyway, we're just having fun here. I'm feeling good knowing that I'm not alone in wanting to import an occasional mesh model, my own, or someone else's, into my Bryce scenes.  Besides, if we really wanted to be technical we'd have to create sub-categories for the people who are pro, or con, in the matter of adding postwork, on both sides of the "Cardinal v.s.Heretic"debate,lol. I suspect there are more postwork users in the Heretic camp, but I could be wrong. Come to think of it, Cardinal TheBryster himself has admitted to displaying his Bryce postwork in public. *low, shocked murmur issues from the crowd!


TheBryster ( ) posted Wed, 02 May 2007 at 3:59 AM
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s'True! I have been known to 'postwork' a final, but I was tired, on holiday, and I didn't inhale!

Available on Amazon for the Kindle E-Reader

All the Woes of a World by Jonathan Icknield aka The Bryster


And in my final hours - I would cling rather to the tattooed hand of kindness - than the unblemished hand of hate...


Gog ( ) posted Wed, 02 May 2007 at 8:01 AM

ROTFL, I started with bryce 2, that was a long time ago......

I think post work or not depends on two things mainly

a) whether you're any good at it (thinking Rochr here :) )
and 
b) if you animate, in which case post work is a bad idea.

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