I'm not homeless yet but i may be , or even if i don't become fully homeless.. i may end up struggling to pay for an apartment, which means i am forced to not have TV, or internet and so on. Are any of you guys struggling with rent or something...then how come you still use Poser? OR most people here using 3d apps, are semi rich? again, i'm not yet homeless but with a 12 dollar per hour job, i don't think i can even afford to eat, much less Pose. right now living wit relatives so it's different.

Those of us not in the 2% are one medical crisis away from poverty...even those with money stashed away. Here in the US, our dollar is almost worthless and we owe other countries like we owe our rent! :(

There's a lot of stuff out there that is free. Blender, Daz Studio, etc.

It's all about budget.  I only make $10.00 per hour at my 9-5.  I work here, I sell artwork, I do odd jobs...and, sometimes, I eek by, sometimes, I have to borrow.  It's usually a question of "Do I really Need this?"  Poser helps me to get income in other ways.  I do illustrations and artwork, and sometimes create content.  It sometimes helps to turn a hobby into money when you are in need ;)  And you don't always have to look back into the community for the help.

Akhiris. he he he. that was funny. but i meant because of Electricity and no money to buy stuff anymore....no time because will have to work 5 jobs to survive, etc

Time to go to college then! Nobody said work was fun, it's all about making money.

again, i'm not yet homeless but with a 12 dollar per hour job, i don't think i can even afford to eat, much less Pose. Eat Ramen.

I used make almost  $18.00 an hour and thought I was poor.  A year ago I was knocked off my motorcycle by a 17 year old girl.  They said I flew throught the air about 15 feet. Broke my hip in 3 places, left wrist, and they tell me my right foot was turned around backwards.  I have a titanium rod in my right leg that goes from my knee to my ankle.  I have a difficult time walking now. I have a pending dissability case, and now my wife and I are living on $620.00 a month. Right now Im trying to come up with cash to pay the eletric bill. Last week I had to make a deal with the phone company to keep it on at least a while longer. Thank god the house and car are paid for or Id probably be homeless by now. Don`t know where you live but $12.00 an hour looks pretty good to me.

If you already have Poser, there's no reason to give it up; you've made that investment. You can't really sell it, since you have the license. So hang onto it, unless you have to sell your PC. Then, just uninstall it, and whatever else you want to keep.

I'm not in particularly good shape myself, but not anywhere near homeless...at least at the moment.  I live in a trailer park way outside of town, with all that implies, no heat, no hot water, etc.
Still, it's not as bad as it sounds.

Don't know your particular situation, but there's roomates, cheaper apartments, moving back in with M&D (last on the list, but you'd hardly be the first). There's always options. You might have to take a 2nd job, and not have as much time to render, but you don't have to give it up. Hang in there, and good luck.

"Those of us not in the 2% are one medical crisis away from poverty...even those with money stashed away. Here in the US, our dollar is almost worthless and we owe other countries like we owe our rent!"

I might suggest that if things are that tight, consider cancelling the cable and Internet services, and save the power it costs to run a computer.

People who aren't one medical crisis away from poverty do a weird thing, they get jobs that include medical coverage.

Depending on where and how you live, $12 an hour (24K a year) can
be fairly comfortable for a single man.  If you're in an expensive place
like NY or Calif, it won't do at all.  But if you can move to a small city in 
the Midwest and find a similar job, you can definitely take care of 
the basic stuff with that amount of money. 

yes im from CA :)

While mileage may vary, Internet service can be purchased to the tune of $10 a month in some regions (especially where $12 per hour constitutes 'poverty.')

Quote - "Those of us not in the 2% are one medical crisis away from poverty...even those with money stashed away. Here in the US, our dollar is almost worthless and we owe other countries like we owe our rent!"

I might suggest that if things are that tight, consider cancelling the cable and Internet services, and save the power it costs to run a computer.

People who aren't one medical crisis away from poverty do a weird thing, they get jobs that include medical coverage.

Thankfully things aren't tight for my household. I'm not rich, but we're okay. We have medical coverage and my original statement applies to those who have medical coverage. Pay attention. You'll learn about the "weird things" CEOs of medical companies you PAY for are doing. Have a good night!

average wages around my area are $6:50 an hour to start $7.25 after 3 months . Very few jobs at $12 an hour unless you are very lucky or very well qualified.

If my computer crashes again I will have to do without it until a friend or family gives me a present . Luckily I own my house but I havent had any income since Jan 2006 when I went into hospital.  Dont qualify for disability and no one will hire an old guy with medical problems .

$12 an hour full time sounds very good to me .

Quote - I'm not homeless yet but i may be , or even if i don't become fully homeless.. i may end up struggling to pay for an apartment, which means i am forced to not have TV, or internet and so on. Are any of you guys struggling with rent or something...then how come you still use Poser? OR most people here using 3d apps, are semi rich? again, i'm not yet homeless but with a 12 dollar per hour job, i don't think i can even afford to eat, much less Pose. right now living wit relatives so it's different.

You make more than double what I bring in - and I'm supporting a child, too.

I live on freebies, I've also learned to do a LOT of things myself. I also do have a Plat. Club acct, so at most, i'm usually only picking up the 1.99 items at Daz. I buy only rarely from any other markets, and I only buy about once a month or so from Daz, as well.

It's for this reason that I don't have a lot of the 'popular' items, nor work with many figures. I work with vic3/m3 and that's about it, so i limit also how much i'm spending that way, too. I don't need to buy a set for miki, vic3, koshini, g2, teri yuki, etc... i only need for v3 or m3. I also make wide use out of procedurals, so I'm not buying a whole lot of textures, either. Many of the images I do, the textures used are either edited by me of the defaults that came with the project, or they're further enhanced via the materials room procedurals, or they're completely made by me with procedurals. All stuff that doesn't cost money.

It's about budget, when you do this sort of artwork and aren't in the top 2% income brackets. Budget how much per month you can afford to spend, and then DO NOT GO OVER IT... ever. That's all I do. I allot myself no more than $20 a month to spend on 3D models/related items. I dont' go over that limit, ever. We live on one pay check, with two adults and a 9 year old daughter (who acts like a boy LMAO, like mother like daughter :p), so we have a very strict budget, and I tend to make use of a LOT of freebies and just limit myself to $20 a month.

Seems to work for us... and we only bring in about $5.75 an hour. Though, we also don't have things like cable tv, satellite radio, etc. We don't buy dvd's, we don't buy a lot of computer related hardware, clothes are only bought when absolutely neccessary, ie something of ours is just no longer presentable or wearable, stuff like that. About the only things we really SPEND money on are rent, utilities, food, gas, phone, and the internet/ISP access. It does help.

You just have to be smart about it. shrugs Though if it came down to a choice between poser and a home? Pffth. I'd drop poser for a while and worry about the home first, thank you. This is just a hobby. It's not bringing me an income, heck I'm even lucky if I get more than 60 views on a piece of art here since I don't tend to do T&A shots, so I'm SURE not bringing in any money with this. You have to prioritize, make use of freebies, learn how to think outside the box a bit and possibly using stuff that's intended for one purpose to put it to use for a completely unrelated purpose (example : a lot of hair textures make beautiful reflection maps! Especially Kozaburo's.), keep a budget, stick to the budget, take advantage of sales, and things like plat. club that are cheap, etc... just be smart about it is all. :D

~ Seliah

**tebop, looks like from these posts you are not alone in this situation, these good people give sound advise, it is up to you to either take it or not, get off the pot or stay....I think you have to set priorities....I always say everyone in there lifetime should be poor at least once, why?, you learn what is most important and find out you are much happier.

Be strong, don't be embarassed with your situation, work hard, and be thankful for what you do have.  You will adapt.

No you are not alone.  Sharen**

$12 an hour for a single person sounds a lot to me, when I was working ( had to give up to become carer for my missus, long story for another thread maybe) I was earning roughly the same but I had myself a wife & 2 kids to pay for. Our priorities have always been home, clothes & food first then the bills,  "fripperies" come after if there's money left over.

I only ever spend money on poser when I know I can afford to do it. If I can't afford it I have to go without, it's that simple.

Also, I've become quite adept at spotting bargains in the stores, yes you can buy famous branded foods at premium prices but often stores own brand is just as good at a fraction of the price. Shop around & don't just pick up the shiniest packaging or the ones who pay the most for advertising.

If you have a wireless laptop or PC, you could ask a friend or neighbor if you could share their internet connection (cable, dsl) until you get on your feet financially. There are tons of really nice freebies out there, too. Don't know if that would be legal, though.

I'm a student and a single parent trying to make it with government support. While it is enough to survive on, it doesn't leave much in the way of spending money and some months there is none. Others have given fine advice, my take on it is simple: It does not cost very much to used Poser, it only costs if one wants/needs more content.

As for the internet service, I recall some people earlier saying they go to internet cafes or libraries to download things. Those people did it because they were on very slow dial-up connections, but it could apply to anyone.

Are there any free wireless hotspots near you that you could use to connect? if you have a laptop of course. ;)

Thats How I get online Im sitting in a Free Wireless hot spot
with my Macbook Laptop
Close to brand band speeds  as well.

Seliah have you also downloaded the free Apollo? All the clothing is free as well.

Apollo is without doubt the best male figure available anywhere.

Quote - Seliah have you also downloaded the free Apollo? All the clothing is free as well.

Yep! I have him... I just recently found out that he was made available free. (I'm not very good about keeping up with Poser forums I'm afraid, usually) Last I'd known, he was up for well over a hundred dollars cost or so, so I had given up on the notion of ever touching him. Found out from Grimage he was freebie and went and downloaded. :)

So I haven't gotten around to pulling him out of the box yet, but that's going to happen in the next day or so when Origins will give my poor head a five minute break to let me play with other stuff. LOL!!

My only question on him is skin texturing and morphing - he looks like a very bulked out male, and while i do use males of that body type sometimes in my work, most of my males tend to be like vincent. Very wiry and lithe rather than bulked. Does he morph well for going lithe and wiry also?

Er.. maybe this should have been in a different thread.. LOL

~ Seliah

He morphs very well :D he can go from looking like a dwarf through the elfin types right up to enormous gorgon types.

Hey guys you changing the topic:)

Ok as long as you have access to electricity & a wireless connection you don't have to give up posting on forums ;) Poser just needs the electricity.

Not really changing the topic they are discussing low cost/ free options for "poser content" my advice is get your priorities in order poverty is a reality check for most people truly poor people dont really worry about continuing to $$buy$$ virtual items for virtual people to render virtual pictures/animations on a computer.

Quote - my advice is get your priorities in order
poverty is a reality check for most people

Very very true - if you're jobless and homeless and broke, and trying to play with computers, you're a little upside down on priorities.

Truly poor people wonder if they will ever be able to eat again.