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Subject: Installing your Runtime (free program)


mylemonblue ( ) posted Mon, 19 November 2007 at 7:26 PM · edited Mon, 19 November 2007 at 7:28 PM

Wow. This rocks! Thanks for the installer and yup computers are for automation and it's nice to see them getting used to make things easier.

Quote - I just found this thread and the programme, so it might be some time before I can use it.
My problem is I have a new PC (Quadcore) which is running Vista 64 bit, and about a hundred million petabytes of runtime to rebuild (at least that's what it seems like after two weeks of slow progress - LOL!)
Unfortunately, Vista 64 bit does not like installers of any kind (ESPECIALLY Victoria 4.1, though V4.0 is okay), so I'm just hoping your programme will help with the simple stuff.
Don't expect me to post back too soon, though, as Vista frequently proves uncooperative.
Frank

ps: And just transferring the Poser 6 and 7 Runtimes from my XP Pro system to the Vista system doesn't work, as Vista uses a different file hierarchy. I tried it and it made such a mess I had to re-install Vista, which took almost five hours just to run the Setup file on the 1 Tb hdd.

:blink: :scared: Five hours???!!? Ouch. If I get another Windows PC I'm going to have it built by a the build-to-order computer shop down the street called Data Doctors. They're a national chain and sell them with WinXP installed.

My brain is just a toy box filled with weird things


bigjobbie ( ) posted Mon, 19 November 2007 at 10:59 PM

Thanks **ahudson

**Looks really useful - I've been avoiding doing a runtime clean-up/re-install because of the laborious nature of poser product installers.

Cheers


ahudson ( ) posted Tue, 20 November 2007 at 8:11 AM

Quote - I just found this thread and the programme, so it might be some time before I can use it.
My problem is I have a new PC (Quadcore) which is running Vista 64 bit, and about a hundred million petabytes of runtime to rebuild (at least that's what it seems like after two weeks of slow progress - LOL!)
Unfortunately, Vista 64 bit does not like installers of any kind (ESPECIALLY Victoria 4.1, though V4.0 is okay), so I'm just hoping your programme will help with the simple stuff.
Don't expect me to post back too soon, though, as Vista frequently proves uncooperative.
Frank

ps: And just transferring the Poser 6 and 7 Runtimes from my XP Pro system to the Vista system doesn't work, as Vista uses a different file hierarchy. I tried it and it made such a mess I had to re-install Vista, which took almost five hours just to run the Setup file on the 1 Tb hdd.

 

Ummm.. email me direct over your poser installation problems on X64. There should ne no problems at all. I run on 64bit.. sweet as a nut. My email is in the readme in the zip. Cheers


ahudson ( ) posted Tue, 20 November 2007 at 8:13 AM

Quote - Thanks **ahudson

**Looks really useful - I've been avoiding doing a runtime clean-up/re-install because of the laborious nature of poser product installers.

Cheers

 

Glad it helps!


SSAfam1 ( ) posted Fri, 23 November 2007 at 1:51 PM · edited Fri, 23 November 2007 at 1:53 PM

I have a ?

You know how you have to add your own runtimes to the list?

IF you have CLOTHING do you have to add a different clothing runtime for each character?

For instance my clothing runtime goes as follows:

C/runtime/CLOTHING. I have subfolders for V3/A3/V4/SP etc.

Do I add each and every character's folder to the runtime list making it like this?

C/runtime/CLOTHING/V3
C/runtime/CLOTHING/A3
C/runtime/CLOTHINGV4
C/runtime/CLOTHING/SP
C/runtime/CLOTHING/etc


EnglishBob ( ) posted Fri, 23 November 2007 at 4:27 PM

Yes. If Poser sees them as separate runtimes, then the Installer will too.


SSAfam1 ( ) posted Fri, 23 November 2007 at 4:48 PM

Thank you Engligh Bob. You're always helpful. :)


semidieu ( ) posted Fri, 23 November 2007 at 5:32 PM

Thanks a lot for this ! I was looking since a long time an application to install those DAZ installers !


JoPol ( ) posted Fri, 30 November 2007 at 12:16 PM

This is a NEAT Utility!!! I have used it extensively since downloading on 11/19. It Works!! (and its FREE...) Thank you for making this available. Sincerely, JoPol (a forum Lurker)


alKhall ( ) posted Sat, 01 December 2007 at 5:03 PM

Thnx for this utility, my runtime is a jungle and this little beauty could be my chainsaw.  :o)


ahudson ( ) posted Wed, 05 December 2007 at 6:00 PM

Thank you to everyone who has left feedback... and sorry for the odd query that I left unanswered and thanks for people who answered those queries!


RoseHawk ( ) posted Wed, 05 December 2007 at 6:54 PM

Thank you for this most useful of utillities. I find it great for the older Daz installers (you know, the ones that insist on scanning all your drive).

Improvement means change. Change need not mean improvement.

I use Poser 12.0.757, 11.3 and or 2014, on Win10 64bit.


DreamWarrior ( ) posted Thu, 06 December 2007 at 12:25 AM

I wanted to say thank you as well.
I've tried it yesterday. Extremely useful.

Thank you for your generosity!
Barb


My crafts - My Freebies - My Store - Delightful Arts


kayjay97 ( ) posted Fri, 07 December 2007 at 9:37 AM

First off, thank you for seems like a excellent utility :-)

I am having problems editing the file runtimes.txt.  XP will not allow me to use the characters /,.: etc.

In a world filled with causes for worry and anxiety...
we need the peace of God standing guard over our hearts and minds.
 
Jerry McCant


FreeBass ( ) posted Wed, 12 December 2007 at 1:59 PM · edited Wed, 12 December 2007 at 2:05 PM

Sweeeeeeeet!

:thumbupboth:

One suggestion/ request;  Would it be possible to make this app not install .rsr thumbs if there is a corresponding .png?

This is the bestest Xmas gift I got (or prob'ly will get) this year.

Thank you verry much :biggrin:

Edit; kayjay...if yr still havin' probbems, try browsing to yr selrcted install folder in Windows Explorer, then copy the location right outta the address bar & paste it into the Runtime.txt

Works fer me



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kayjay97 ( ) posted Wed, 12 December 2007 at 2:24 PM

Will try that FreeBAss. Thank you 
:-)

In a world filled with causes for worry and anxiety...
we need the peace of God standing guard over our hearts and minds.
 
Jerry McCant


ahudson ( ) posted Fri, 14 December 2007 at 4:22 AM

**kayjay97, I hIope freebass's suggestion worked...

freebass, thank you for a great comment... Umm... can you explain about the rsr v png files a bit more please?**


EnglishBob ( ) posted Fri, 14 December 2007 at 4:32 AM

Quote - Umm... can you explain about the rsr v png files a bit more please?

If I may? Poser 4 and earlier used RSR files as library thumbnails, whereas Pro Pack and later use PNGs. Many authors provide both RSR and PNG thumbnails for convenience - but of course you only need to install the type which is relevant to your version of Poser. The rest are just taking up disk space.


kayjay97 ( ) posted Fri, 14 December 2007 at 5:08 AM

Clapping!! OMG, how cool is this!!! Thank you, thank you! You just mage my life easier!! LOL

In a world filled with causes for worry and anxiety...
we need the peace of God standing guard over our hearts and minds.
 
Jerry McCant


lululee ( ) posted Sat, 15 December 2007 at 8:35 AM

Thank you sooooooo much. What a terrific gift. Ireally appreciate it. Thank you so much for sharing this with us.
cheerio  lululee


FranOnTheEdge ( ) posted Sun, 16 December 2007 at 9:34 AM

I just installed Poser5 - again.  I've got all the Hiro content CD stuff installed before I found this thread, but I also have a lot - really a lot! - of content from Daz - that I had previously installed for DS, now that I've re-intalled Poser5 can I use your installer to install the same stuff for Poser5? Or do I not need to even install all that?

I ask because the runtimes and all that rot are a complete mess for DS, so much of a mess that DS keeps saying - "you have more than 10 folders..warning... blah blah warning blah blah blah..." over and over again.

In fact that's one reason why I've not used DS much - because it's such a hassle trying to find something it needs when I want to use a model, prop or pose etc, so much of a hassle that I usually just have to give up and forget it.

I think having so many folders called "content" or "content this" in so many different locations that makes it so maddening.  And if the computer doesn't know what it did with the stuff when it installed it, there's no way on earth I can ever know.

So is this what your program gets rid of?  The mess?

It would be so cool if something did.

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by the shade it casts.

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Fran's Freestuff

http://franontheedge.blogspot.com/

http://www.FranOnTheEdge.com


ahudson ( ) posted Sun, 16 December 2007 at 9:54 AM

Quote - I just installed Poser5 - again.  I've got all the Hiro content CD stuff installed before I found this thread, but I also have a lot - really a lot! - of content from Daz - that I had previously installed for DS, now that I've re-intalled Poser5 can I use your installer to install the same stuff for Poser5? Or do I not need to even install all that?
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So is this what your program gets rid of?  The mess?

It would be so cool if something did.

 

It certainly would be cool if something did! 

I'm afraid this program is not the tool though (for getting rid of mess). In fact, I don;t think ther IS a tool for getting rid of runtime mess. This program will however help you install 95% of your stuff into nicely names runtimes. If you are going back to Poser and want to start afresh then zap the D|S folders completely and segergate your content into figures (V3, V4 animals etc) and then within that into clothes, shoes, hair etc). Then, make a well ordered (short named too) list of the runtimes you want eg

c:runtimesV3Shoes
c:runtimesV3Hair
c:runtimesV3Clothes
c:runtimesV3Char-morphs
c:runtimesV3poses
.
.
.
c:runtimesV4Shoes
c:runtimesV4Hair
c:runtimesV4Clothes
c:runtimesV4Char-morphs
c:runtimesV4poses
.
.
.
c:runtimesprops
c:runtimeslights

Put this into the runtimes.txt file in the installer folder.

Take each category of "things" eg all your install files for poses for V4. Put thim into the install files folder and run the program specifitying the c:runtimesv4poses folder as the target.

This will install all those files (the poses for V4) into the V4Poses runtime.

Repeat the process for each category of content.

Finally, start poser and add all the runtimes into the library.

You may wish to look at the excellent "Advanced Library" http://neocron.lunarpages.com/library/ program to further subcategorise your content. This can help you build a virtual structure on top of your runtimes. It is WELL worth a look.

Hope this helps
Cheers
Adrian


softcris ( ) posted Thu, 27 December 2007 at 9:29 AM

odlly as it may seems...my antivirus: HTTP://www.avast.com
found your *.zip file as a virus treat!

"'you shut up!  or I'll bring democracy to your country! "
Cris Galvão aka Softcris  - www.crisgalvao.com
(or softcris, SoftCris)
Rendering since 1997 and
at Renderosity since 1999.

OS Win 8.1     64 bit


ahudson ( ) posted Thu, 27 December 2007 at 9:54 AM

Quote - odlly as it may seems...my antivirus: HTTP://www.avast.com
found your *.zip file as a virus treat!

 

Sorry, do you mean avast thinks there is a virus? Again, i have checked the file this time against Norton, AVG (free) and NOD32 and none of them feel there is an issue. Perhaps you might ask your antivirus program to send the report to the manufacturer for them to ascertain the fault.

Cheers,
Adrian


Stepdad ( ) posted Fri, 28 December 2007 at 12:11 AM

Most useful feature I could think of off the top of my head would be a filter for the directory names that come in many prepackaged runtimes.

For example, the directory name in the character folder might be Micheal's Suit - but the guy who made the runtime for whatever reason decided to put "Mat Suit" for a directory name for the mat files, and used "artist name here" as the directory name in the geometry and texture file location.

This can become quite maddening after a while, you get 10 or 20 directories like this and trying to track everything down becomes a royal pain in the keester, especially those damn material files.  How can anyone possibly remember the name of the original vendor 6 months or a year later so they can track down the geometry or worse yet the original texture file?

If your program could allow you to substitute a single name for all of these different directory names that would be a real godsend.  It would be nice it it would check to see no duplicate names of that same directory already existed, but just the ability to get rid of that stupid "MAT" designation or those godawful "!" signs in front of the directory name would be fantastic.

Nothing worse than trying to find something when it's out of alphabetical order.  Really wish more people would keep that in mind when there packaging this stuff in the first place.

Lol.. ok, rant over... 

Stepdad


ahudson ( ) posted Fri, 28 December 2007 at 4:40 AM

Quote - Most useful feature I could think of off the top of my head would be a filter for the directory names that come in many prepackaged runtimes.

For example, the directory name in the character folder might be Micheal's Suit - but the guy who made the runtime for whatever reason decided to put "Mat Suit" for a directory name for the mat files, and used "artist name here" as the directory name in the geometry and texture file location.

This can become quite maddening after a while, you get 10 or 20 directories like this and trying to track everything down becomes a royal pain in the keester, especially those damn material files.  How can anyone possibly remember the name of the original vendor 6 months or a year later so they can track down the geometry or worse yet the original texture file?

If your program could allow you to substitute a single name for all of these different directory names that would be a real godsend.  It would be nice it it would check to see no duplicate names of that same directory already existed, but just the ability to get rid of that stupid "MAT" designation or those godawful "!" signs in front of the directory name would be fantastic.

Nothing worse than trying to find something when it's out of alphabetical order.  Really wish more people would keep that in mind when there packaging this stuff in the first place.

Lol.. ok, rant over... 

Stepdad

 

OH I SO AGREE!!!

Big change though and would only work for zip files, not Daz installers (without serious work). I will think about this though. I can't say it will be imminent much as I would like it to be so.


ahudson ( ) posted Fri, 28 December 2007 at 4:43 AM

NEW VERSION 1.6

Change 1. Zip installation log files and a corresponding new program UninstZip. If a log file is dragged and dropped onto the uninstZip program it will uninstall all the files that came from that zip file.

Change 2. New option to move input files into Success or Failed folders

Download from the original link on the first post.

Sorry about the rubbish icons for the main program and the UninstZip program. Does anyone know of a good free icon source?


RoseHawk ( ) posted Fri, 28 December 2007 at 4:54 AM · edited Fri, 28 December 2007 at 4:55 AM

Thanks for the update!
I'm still suffering from Xmas D/L over load so this will a good work out!

Improvement means change. Change need not mean improvement.

I use Poser 12.0.757, 11.3 and or 2014, on Win10 64bit.


randym77 ( ) posted Fri, 28 December 2007 at 5:58 AM

Thank you.  This looks promising...


Stepdad ( ) posted Fri, 28 December 2007 at 6:09 AM

Quote -  

OH I SO AGREE!!!

Big change though and would only work for zip files, not Daz installers (without serious work). I will think about this though. I can't say it will be imminent much as I would like it to be so.

 

Well, if I understood how the program works it essentially "hijacks" the daz install process by feeding it parameters already, so I can't imagine it would be too difficult to just have the program install all the runtime info to a dummy directory and copy it over from there just as if it were a zip.


ahudson ( ) posted Fri, 28 December 2007 at 9:08 AM

Quote - > Quote -  

OH I SO AGREE!!!

Big change though and would only work for zip files, not Daz installers (without serious work). I will think about this though. I can't say it will be imminent much as I would like it to be so.

 

Well, if I understood how the program works it essentially "hijacks" the daz install process by feeding it parameters already, so I can't imagine it would be too difficult to just have the program install all the runtime info to a dummy directory and copy it over from there just as if it were a zip.

 

True. Still, the renaming bit would be tricky and it would invalidate the Daz installers uninstall routines.


Stepdad ( ) posted Sat, 29 December 2007 at 1:06 AM

Quote - > Quote - > Quote -  

OH I SO AGREE!!!

Big change though and would only work for zip files, not Daz installers (without serious work). I will think about this though. I can't say it will be imminent much as I would like it to be so.

 

Well, if I understood how the program works it essentially "hijacks" the daz install process by feeding it parameters already, so I can't imagine it would be too difficult to just have the program install all the runtime info to a dummy directory and copy it over from there just as if it were a zip.

 

True. Still, the renaming bit would be tricky and it would invalidate the Daz installers uninstall routines.

 

Hmm.... but that would be simple enough to work around I would think, install everything without the "uninstall" feature from daz, and just incorporate an uninstall feature in your own program instead.  Since the idea is they'll be using your program have it keep a log file of what it installed and where and give it the ability to uninstall them instead, bypass the daz installer almost entirely.

Truth be told what little I have from Daz I never use there uninstaller routines anyway, more of a pain that what their worth.  I don't want 20 or 30 extra entries in my add and remove programs menu, enough crap in there already :)

Stepdad


hemi426 ( ) posted Sun, 30 December 2007 at 2:46 PM · edited Sun, 30 December 2007 at 2:47 PM

First of all I want to say "thank you" as well. I have several ideas/proposals.

Would it be possible to integrate this into the context menu for .zip files? When you rightclick a zip-file, you have the option "Open with poser installer".

Then you have a dropdown box with the predefined runtimes (from the Runtimes.txt already in your app).

And it should list the folder names of the libraries folder included in the zip-file in a second step in a textfield (yeah I come from the web programming side :-).

So it would be possible to change the names of the folders that go into the libraries folders.
For example: "poses/freestuff creator xyz" so you it could be changed into "poses/V4 sitting poses". The names of the folders for textures and geometries cannot be changed, otherwise the files could not be found from poser.

Thanks
facehugger


Jcleaver ( ) posted Mon, 31 December 2007 at 10:32 AM

This is getting quite indispensible!  

I have a feature request.  How about a way to add files from the program, rather than just copying them ahead of time?  An Add files button, so to speak.  

Also, an intuitive way to end the process in the middle, like after the current install finishes.  I haven't figured out how to end the program early yet; though i could have sworn I read something on how to do that.  

John



ahudson ( ) posted Wed, 02 January 2008 at 6:03 AM

I want to thank everyone for their kind comments and suggestions for improvements for this program.

A number of people suggested that I should sell this item so I have made it available at http://market.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?ViewProduct=61876 for what I believe is a nominal charge.

If you have a version prior to 1.6 then if you email me at the address in the readme file, I will be happy to send you version 1.6 free until the end of January.

Cheers and thanks again to everyone who downloaded and commented on this program


Honey_ZA ( ) posted Tue, 29 January 2008 at 1:17 PM

 Hi,  
rather late than never but i also just wanted to say thanx for this awesome program.  I've been using it non stop (untill my pc crashed today) and it works brilliantly.  I am actually looking forward to installing everything again thanx to you.  
Luckily i've got backups of everything. 

Thank you and i hope it sells well.  It is awesome!!

HoNeY
http://www.HoneyB.co.za


ahudson ( ) posted Tue, 29 January 2008 at 1:29 PM

Thank you very much. I am glad it helps. :)


Richabri ( ) posted Tue, 29 January 2008 at 6:11 PM

Hmmm, the title of this thread announces that this is a free program and now I see three pages into the thread that it's for sale in the MP. 

Nice strategy!

Kinda reminds me of Netzero :)

  • Rick


albertdelfosse ( ) posted Tue, 20 May 2008 at 5:06 PM

great program it helped a lot


JQP ( ) posted Tue, 11 November 2008 at 6:24 PM

How about a content UNinstaller?  Software that installs content and makes a record of all actions, and the data on all files created.  Then it can uninstall the content when summoned, maybe even hunt it down if it's been moved.


EnglishBob ( ) posted Wed, 12 November 2008 at 9:01 AM · edited Wed, 12 November 2008 at 9:03 AM

The drawback with this is that some content can share files with other items, and you wouldn't necessarily want those shared files deleted.

  • Edited to add: Hogsoft's Correct Reference Pro can do uninstalls, by looking through the library file to see what else is referenced from it. It suffers from the same drawback, nevertheless.


JQP ( ) posted Thu, 13 November 2008 at 1:44 PM

Examples?  If the file locations, sizes, dates, and names are recorded, seems removing them would be straightforward.  If they don't match, the program could ask for confirmation.


nruddock ( ) posted Thu, 13 November 2008 at 5:02 PM

You'd also need a usage count (or similar mechanism) for each file.

Not a trivial undertaking (see also Microsoft Windows DLL Hell).


leather-guy ( ) posted Thu, 13 November 2008 at 10:52 PM

Hi.
After scanning this thread, I just bought the program.  Trying to install it just now, it seems to be hard-coded to install into a folder called installer that has to be in the root directory of a hard drive.  How do I override this? Installing a minor utility (however useful) into it's own folder in a root directory is unacceptable to me.  My root directories on all 6 of my hard drives (1.6 TB total)are carefully organized.
I need to be able to install this into D:3D-AppsPoserUtils3DContentInstaller to maintain the organization I've labored for several years to maintain.
I haven't seen a program hard coded to a root directory in over 10 years (aside from some of Adobe's and Corel's support files, which is one of the reasons I've stopped using Adobe and Corel products).

How can this problem be corrected?

Thanks!
Jerry
leather-guy


leather-guy ( ) posted Sun, 08 November 2009 at 12:37 AM

A year later, and no reply whatsoever to my problem, including and IM - not the kind of product support I'd have wished from a Vendor at Renderosity.


ahudson ( ) posted Sun, 08 November 2009 at 5:08 AM

Quote - A year later, and no reply whatsoever to my problem, including and IM - not the kind of product support I'd have wished from a Vendor at Renderosity.

I'm sorry, I did not see your post. Why did you not email me? I don't understand your words about IM because I am not on IM.

Simply move the folder to wherever you wish. It will work anywhere on the same PC.

Any other problems, please email me at the address in the readme/instructions file or here using sitemail.

Regards,
Adrian


nruddock ( ) posted Sun, 08 November 2009 at 7:00 AM

Quote - I don't understand your words about IM because I am not on IM.

He meant he used the "Site Mail".


TrekkieGrrrl ( ) posted Sun, 08 November 2009 at 8:39 AM

 So.. this isn't free any more, right?

Damn I guess I should have grabbed it back then.. hmm... Who knows.. perhaps I actually did.. What was the name of the zip?

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markschum ( ) posted Sun, 08 November 2009 at 10:45 AM

I have a python script that does a batch install of zip files but the Daz installers is a real pain to do.

Excellent utility.


EnglishBob ( ) posted Sun, 08 November 2009 at 11:19 AM

Quote - What was the name of the zip?

 

Installer.zip, appropriately enough. ;-)


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