Thunderstone..the leaves look cool.. much beter than the first one you did...though i see you left the flowers and the stems as it is.
like fran..i am confused about the inversions.. huh?
i think i can tru witht eh mask and see.though i sued the color picker to pickup the white background..result..it was a bit rough ont he edges.. tolerance kept at 0. I guess I willhave to pump up the colors for it to show..
will you please explain about how you did the color inversions?
fran..the 2nd one looks good.. like you say..sad we can't get flowers like the originals on page one. did you have to saturate the colors more in photoshop? i seem to be getting very fade colors in bryce..even though i increased the transparency to neary 80..

The rough edge is caused by there being some black outline of AA... There's no way to get around that except by using Fine Art setting on rendering.  Transparency doesn't work nearly as well as using a lighter shade of magenta, I found out

I posted the pix of the original render and you can see how it first came out.
The flowers are in the shade of grays and the stems and leaves are in shade of magenta.

thunderstone..got it..will try it again in a  few hours.. have guests for dinner..

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Ok... Enjoy dinner!

I don't understand. 

Why do you need to change colours in PhotoShop, why not just change the colours in Bryce?

erosiaart,

I didn't do anything in PhotoShop, just Bryce. :b_confused:

Oh, I forgot, you don't have B6 Rosie do you?

That'll be why you're having problems with the colours, B5 and B5.5 don't play as nicely as B6 - I'll have to try it out with B5.5 as well...

The stamens - or stamen's stalks, are just a tiny bit clearer, smoother - in the one with the XRay Sky.

Otherwise they both look pretty much like the B6 one...

I did a bit of smoothing in Wings with the model first since originally it rendered a bit blockily.

This is the result:^^^

Yea played with it in bryce with the flowers that come with bryce and it didn't do good with them. I love those feathering looking ones Chris :O)

Hey, I'm enjoying this.

What do we do next Rosie?

Ohh those are so pretty Fan

more flowers, fran. I'm still trying to get it. how the hell did you get the blue?? i can't do that!! not happening..
btw.. sndcastie..think the less solid your petals..the more gorgeous the effect.
fran.. how did you get the blue?? i'm jealous. li'l change the camera angle..see how it works...
did you use the same xray sky that was given in the original mat file?

See the image:

If this is not working for you, perhaps it's some other setting that I've changed?

I put a black simple material on the ground plane and turned all 3 of the sky settings in the first box to black, that's the Sun Glow Colour, the Sky Colour and the Horizon Colour.

That might be it.

Well now that's how to do it!... :lol: No more color inversion in Photoshop... Just simply do everything in Bryce! I am going to try that...

TS

I'm sorry, I should have said more about how I was doing it to begin with.  I dunno why I did the dark Sun Glow Colour, Sky Colour and the Horizon Colour - probably because that's where you turn off the atmosphere when you want everything dark and just the lights you're using to show up...

and I guess it just seemed like a good idea at the time.  :m_thoughtful:  -- 

And why aren't any of you posting these better ones in the gallery?
  Y'all got a lot of 'wow' factor going one here. 

**skiwillgee:
** We are the "Not Quite Ready for Portfolio" Gang... That's why! :b_funny:

Skiwillgee: Great idea. Never even crossed my mind to post them. This just started out as Rosie's "How on earth do you do this?" thread and ran way outa control. LOL

FS

I'm wondering if this inversion thing is more to do with creating your Bryce scene normally, rendering in normal light and then creating a negative image in say PS or PSP.

Exactly!!! but  you will have to know which colors are the negative.... in Bryce...

We all know... white is the opposite of Black. So that's that.... Take a look at the lily of the valley picture that I did early last week.  The black one is the negative of the one that I did in Bryce.

This is what I have been trying to get across to both Fran and erosiaart:

- after inverting your image in the image editor of your choice it can sometimes help to tweak brightness/
  contrast/intensity, colour levels ect, but this also can be achieved all within Bryce, with material     settings tweaks. (apart from the image-inversion of course)

hence my little tips about the color inversion.

Fran's way is great but it is not what they talked about in the ReadMe text file that came with x-ray mat.

TS

skiwillgee!!  hahaha..
i did do it thru the diffuse thing.. but used the sky preset thatw as there for the xray  mats...
but yup..i've realized too if you do change the angle of the camera..the blue is blue. my green becomes less transperent though and then becomes green to yellow to white to  nothing...leme see if i saved what i did or dumped it in disgust...
or I'll do a quick one and post it up

thunderstone.. he did say to use the given sky preset and invert white bit into black...i think he did the same thing as fran.. xept using a white background and then paint it back into black..

It's all so confusing!!!! I'm going to stop now while I am not so frustrated that I want to chuck everything out the window and stop rendering!!!!

I'll try again when the dust settled down and my poor brain can handle being manhandled by Bryce!

thunderstone...we do not give up here!. :biggrin: 
i have just 6 days to figure this out.. .. and i am doing this inbetween packing and trying to figure out what I need to get done!  i leave for Hong Kong and China for a month or two next week monday....so I have no idea when me gonna be able to attack this.. :rolleyes:  will be going thru bryce withdrawal symptoms out there! 
cheers... and happy chucking out bryce! (dare you to..you won't...you'll just die with withdrawal symptoms.. :lol: )

btw..what I don't like is the leaves..... it worked beautifully on your 7th try.. but on mines..if I use Fran's method..it is solid... even if i upped the transparency to about 80..and that is a helluva lot.

fran..try it with leaves....

any idea if adamite around? the creator of the xray mats.. i can't find him around. maybe we can get himto tell us what is happening here...

I don't think Adamite is still around on RR... The mats were created like 5 years ago... He/She could have just vanished off the face of the earth, or just be abducted by aliens... Whatever...

I think the whole thing is to just do it in bryce and invert the colors in an image editor like the creator stated in the backroom forum. *

*IMPORTANT - Basic set-up is to apply any of the colored materials to a mesh, render with a WHITE background and the supplied sky preset, then later invert the colors of the pic to simulate the example given in the picture above. Tips and information in the .zip file. *

Where you're going to be, you'll still have access to the internet, so take your laptop with you and keep on rendering. I won't stop rendering if you keep trying. In the mean time, I came across a situation that I would like to render... It's a real cute one too!!!

I still don't really understand why we can't use Bryce settings to achieve effects, why go the long way around and use Photoshop, when it's much quicker and easier in Bryce?

Anyway the original instructions are for x-rays, which are usually grey... aren't they?

And we are trying for Laser Flowers...  Which I think is more fun after all.

I can only find one small mention of inverting in PhotoShop (or other image editor) anyway.

Unfortunately I can't do any more playing right now cos I'm stuck waiting for a marble render to finish.... sigh.

Sorry - testing!

Lol!

Quote - here goes..
used one of the bryce flowers in 5.5  . and used your sky setting instead of the sky setting he gave..
and i upped the camera angle...

Hey Rosie, that's really lovely.  What's the problem with it?

At the end of the day, whatever gets the job done is all that matters. We're trying to achieve an effect here. Go back and look at the demo pic of the 'missile' - that's the effect we want. And surprise surprise that's the effect you guys are getting! ;-)

No matter which way we do it, huh?

Attached Link: Laser Extension - Bubble Universe

Even extended the idea to something a bit different... (see link)

i'm nto happy because the green..ie..the leaves arn't getting that xray effect...

thunderstone..lol.. the bedroom me will be sleeping in has the computer..so will dwnload bryce and render at nite!
btw..what cute thing you rendering?

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btw..what cute thing you rendering?

You will just have to wait til I put it up in my gallery. At this moment, I am merely gathering the ingredients for it. Already got the scene set up... Just need to put the piece together and do the lighting and it will be ready for the gallery...

meano... thunderstone...
i pace the floor...

I think you just need lots of layers of leaf for the x-ray transparency to show up, otherwise I think the x-ray green is working, it's just not showing up much...

If your green is going to yellow and white with the camera angle change, either that's unavoidable or else maybe start off with a deeper green and pick the green from the bluer end of the greens not the yellower side.

That might help.

Attached Link: The Night Garden

Well I've posted an image in the gallery, but I dunno about "Wow Factor", I think you need an awful lot of friends for that sort of thing, and it would probably need to be a NVIATWAF.

But I haven't posted much for quite some time, except "Bubble Universe", and that was because of this thread too, so it's about time I put something up.

Anyone have a Link to these Mats in the Free Stuff?? I've tried searching using Adamite or the keywords X-Ray but cant find a thing.

analogx ..look into the first page on this post..you'll see the link...
cheers

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cheers

Thank you... I had to look at the page a bit more carefully... the link color was the same as the text color which is why I missed it the first 2 times around. :)

I've got an idea... I will post the results in due time.

Oooh, what'r you gonna do?

Trying to create the effect of those Deep Sea creatures that you see.. on National Geographic.

The idea is to create a creature with translucent skin and you can see its internal organs.

I used the Color inverted method.

"I used the Color inverted method."
thru photoshop??

Cooo, I like that - I do hope you'll explain how you did that?

Hey, now you mention it, I've got some jellyfish models (extremely basic though) I made a while back... I wonder....

Initialy I did some tests with Meta Balls with various colors and also some Spheres and the results were very dissapointing even bringing the image into photoshop to brighten didnt look good.  Especialy the spheres... I found no matter what color I picked I would get orange rings inside the sphere.. something I havent figured out yet.  I tried editing the sky preset so that I didnt have to bring it into photoshop for post work and that didnt  yield  good results either.

Skipping forward after a bunch of tests and such here is how I did the final image you see.

1. Using Bryce v6.1 I used a couple of objects included with Bryce.

2. Under  Objects > Misc >  I used  "Sweeping Spiral" and than I placed "Twisted Spiral" inside that.

3. Since I was going to use the Photoshop Invert method.. I used the inverted color chart posted in this thread as a guide line.

4.  I used the Default X-Ray preset to create the final colors I was aiming for.

5.  The instructions confused me about using Camera Controls vs moving the object placement.  Regardless I used the Dolly Tools to move the view to where I wanted and paid close attention to the NANO Preview window as the position of my Object did make a big
difference in the end result.  I did a few large renders till I was happy with what I got.

6.  As per text file, I increased the Ray Per Pixel to maximum which is 256, and rendered to a file.

1. Once in Photoshop... I inverted the picture first.  Now I could have rendered a "Object Mask" by this time I was tired and went the quick method.   I used the "Color Range" Method in photoshop to select the Black Background, and than I inverted my selection so that only my object bits were selected.

2. I played with the Brightness/Contrast tool to get the desired result.

Fran: That is the idea... if you have JellyFish Models try them out... I bet it would look great.

Er... has your name changed?

Anyway - " Fran: That is the idea... if you have JellyFish Models try them out... I bet it would look great."

Yeah well, these models are so very basic that I've been searching for internet reference images to improve them before daring to show anyone.

Will get back to you on that.

Thanks for the info on your method, I'd never have thought to look at the Bryce objects for a spiral.

(I used your step 7 to convert a charcoal sketch on white to a silhouette of a dancer in pale yellow on black - for a short animation for Uni - it's a nice simple method)

Getting back on topic.... I'm attaching a couple of photos of real translucent Deep Sea animals.

Should be able to make something up with standard Bryce Primitives.

I'm better at PhotoShop than I am with Bryce.

Now I was thinking of Posting the larger version of what I posted above in the gallery....should I? Does it need anything added to it??