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Subject: Is anyone still working in Bryce?


Incognitas ( ) posted Thu, 07 May 2009 at 5:46 AM · edited Thu, 06 February 2025 at 4:05 PM

I've been a bit half hearted myself lately..there seems to be little point as Daz seem to have given up and very rarely do they provide anything new product wise.

I wish they had done more to improve the modelling section as I find it so hard to produce new unusual shapes even with the booleen shapes.Time after time I've tried to produce unusual Islamic doorways and arches only to find that the shapes I choose won't go work in a booleen action.

I really want to rely on Bryce to produce all the elements of a picture but keep coming up against this wall(no pun intended).Yes I can import through Daz Studio but then that is someone else's work not mine own. :sad:


TheBryster ( ) posted Thu, 07 May 2009 at 7:34 AM

How about posting some of your wips/problems here in this thread? Maybe we can help.

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bobbystahr ( ) posted Thu, 07 May 2009 at 9:58 AM

 How about using terrains to do the Islamic doorways..Make the original in a paint program and realize it as a terrain in Bryce...it's the work around a lot of folks here have had success with.. ...

 

Once in a while I look around,
I see a sound
and try to write it down
Sometimes they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again



 

 

 

 

 


TheBryster ( ) posted Thu, 07 May 2009 at 10:28 AM

Good call, Bobby.

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bobbystahr ( ) posted Thu, 07 May 2009 at 11:50 AM

 Speaking from personal experience here.. ...

 

Once in a while I look around,
I see a sound
and try to write it down
Sometimes they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again



 

 

 

 

 


tabou21 ( ) posted Fri, 08 May 2009 at 10:17 AM

I have been out of the loop lately with doing anything creative wise. Now I have some inspiration to start back up again...So i know where you are coming from...It comes and goes i guess.

If you have lack of inspiration, try going somewhere and observe your surroundings...Sometimes for me just reading a new book helps....Sometimes I use my dreams, and nightmares.

Anyway, hope you feel the urge to create something new soon!


TheBryster ( ) posted Fri, 08 May 2009 at 11:06 AM

*Sometimes I use my dreams, and nightmares.

*The Bryce Forum IS a nightmare. You should get loads of inspiration here :lol:

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And in my final hours - I would cling rather to the tattooed hand of kindness - than the unblemished hand of hate...


Lown ( ) posted Fri, 08 May 2009 at 11:55 AM

Not been doing much Brycing lately, been doing a short course on vector-graphics so aint had much time. Hopefully can get something together for the challenge though, would be quite bad from if I didnt enter the challenge I myself set!
Also (and this will probably get me 3 months solitary in a comfy chair), been trying to learn 3DS Max! Heresy of the first degree! Is that the cardinals I hear at the door??


TheBryster ( ) posted Fri, 08 May 2009 at 2:04 PM

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All the Woes of a World by Jonathan Icknield aka The Bryster


And in my final hours - I would cling rather to the tattooed hand of kindness - than the unblemished hand of hate...


vncnt9663 ( ) posted Sun, 10 May 2009 at 1:51 AM · edited Sun, 10 May 2009 at 1:53 AM

Lown 
I'm somewhat in the same boat. I’ve been working a lot with vector graphics and find I don’t have the time I’d like to spend on my 3D work. I got into 3D with Bryce as a way to enhance my 2D graphic work.

I have found Bryce to be rewarding and challenging at the same time. To me it’s a logic puzzle. Lately I’ve been turning to Wings 3D to achieve those shapes that I can’t make in Bryce.
I’ve said it before; the one feature I wish DAZ would add to Bryce to make it complete would be true vector modeling.

At times I think about jumping ship. But I always come back because I know I’ve just began to scratch the surface with Bryce.

Incognitas don’t give up on Bryce just yet. There are always ways to work around problems. Terrains as mentioned are one solution. This forum I've found to be another great tool. There are some talented minds here that I have found are willing to share their knowledge.
Also there other programs like Wings3D and DAZ Studio that can enhance what Bryce can’t do. Let me put it this way, when it come to my graphics I use Photoshop, but I don’t stop there. I also use Illustrator, Painter and did I mention Bryce.

I’ll get down from my soapbox now. 


FranOnTheEdge ( ) posted Sun, 10 May 2009 at 8:23 AM

Although I have recently had to go to Cinema4D to produce a recent animation - that'll be a) lack of time and b) my fault as I couldn't figure out the solution to the problem in the time I had left.

...as I say despite that I still find that I can produce a decent still render in Bryce faster than I can in C4D - that too may be my fault for not yet knowing enough about C4d's materials, knowing as I do a good deal (although not by any means - all) about materials in Bryce, I therefore can set things up in Bryce much faster than I can in Cinema, lights too I find easier in Bryce, but that could be because I have saved some various light rigs in Bryce, making it a simple single click to add them to a scene.

I agree that using terrains is a great workaround in Bryce to produce complex models, but that's no disavantage, I think of it more as an advantage - there always seems to be more than one way to do things in Bryce. 

Okay so you need a paint/graphics program to do that (or an image from someone else), but that kind of workaround can happen to anyone.

I recently had to export an animation from Premiere - with just the audio, and then again with just the titles - and then import those into After Effects with the C4D animation, and then re-cut the animation sequences to match what I had in Premiere - just so as to put it all together in AE and export from there... and all that just because CS4's Premiere mucks up the animation, squishing it badly, or shifting it to one side of the view on export - which After Effects doesn't.

Really weird!

I love the masking facility in Bryce, which I'm just re-investigating, Distance, Height and Object masking are such nice things to be able to do.

Oops, sorry, I seem to have hopped onto the soap box that rj9663 just left...
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Incognitas**, yes.  Please do post screen shots of any problems you are having, anyone who can will be pleased to offer their experience to help you achieve the effect you are after.

I'll stop now.

Measure your mind's height
by the shade it casts.

Robert Browning (Paracelsus)

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Incognitas ( ) posted Sun, 10 May 2009 at 12:57 PM

Sorry I've not been replying but I've just been laid low with something viral that is devastating everyone at work..Just not been well enough to do anything the last few days and still feeling shaky.

Be just my luck to walk back into school and catch Scarlet fever that has hit us twice now.

Will look out some stuff when I can remember where I placed it..full time work has been playing havoc with my memory.


TheBryster ( ) posted Sun, 10 May 2009 at 2:27 PM

Way too much Heresy for one day!!!! I'm locking this thread.

Any one seen a 'lock this thread' button lying around anywhere?

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And in my final hours - I would cling rather to the tattooed hand of kindness - than the unblemished hand of hate...


FranOnTheEdge ( ) posted Sun, 10 May 2009 at 6:17 PM

Incognitas,

Good, it sounds like it's time to bring this thread back into Brycishness - before the Bryster turns puce - puce doesn't suit him you know...
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.
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Hurriedly kicking the lock button under the sofa.

Measure your mind's height
by the shade it casts.

Robert Browning (Paracelsus)

Fran's Freestuff

http://franontheedge.blogspot.com/

http://www.FranOnTheEdge.com


Quest ( ) posted Wed, 27 May 2009 at 9:29 PM · edited Wed, 27 May 2009 at 9:30 PM

Well as artists we must be able to try new approaches in art. If there’s a genre that attracts you as an artist then it’s totally OK to fulfill your interests. Certain software packages allow you to express your art. But looking at these packages we often wonder why it is that certain artists use a particular piece of software. My personal determination is that people become used to using certain software and they feel comfortable with it. Given this I must assume that  different software packages have a certain attraction and often it’s ease of use is what attracts people.

Quote: “Now, with the different levels of bundled packages any user – from production house to personal designer – can have access to the most sophisticated virtual plant-enhanced ecosystem creation and visualization tool on the market today”

Now isn’t that a self serving statement? This is a mile leap comment to assume that this combination is the “most sophisticated virtual plant-enhanced ecosystem”.

As if Terragen or XFrog are the most user friendly programs on the market. Believe me, they’re not. I just spoke to someone this weekend about Terragen and they told me they couldn’t catch on to its user interface. Terragen is semi-user friendly from my perspective. It takes some getting use to.

XFrog on the other hand definitely needs lots of “social cognizant and ergonomics 101 ” training. I’m sure that XFrog is offering the “plant enhancement” part of the duet. But XFrog ordinarily are too many dials whose use are not outright intuitively apparent.  Unless they have come to a totally different user interface I cannot see this combo as a viable means for introductory 3D artists.

 


Incognitas ( ) posted Thu, 28 May 2009 at 6:36 AM

I kind of feel like this thread has been hijacked...


DAM3D ( ) posted Thu, 28 May 2009 at 12:02 PM

I am still using Bryce and will continue to use it weather it is updated or not. Tihs doesn't ,mean I won't try out other software, but as long as there is an OS available to run Bryce, I will use it. 90% of all of my gallery is Bryce.

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Quest ( ) posted Thu, 28 May 2009 at 12:46 PM

Ooooh yes, I see what you mean Incognitas and I'm sorry for having contributed to that. But I'm seeing where I went astray. I'll have to pay closer attention to the opening topic at hand in the future.

Have you tried using those 3rd party Bryce primitives for your Islamic designs?


FranOnTheEdge ( ) posted Thu, 28 May 2009 at 1:47 PM · edited Thu, 28 May 2009 at 1:47 PM

I seem to remember doing some Islamic designs with terrains - using photos of Islamic doorways... I think.

I'll look later, but Bryce is busy rendering for the challenge - dunno if I'll make it so I hate to disturb it just now - and I think that answers your question about - 'is anyone working with Bryce'?

i.e. - yes, me.

Lol.

Measure your mind's height
by the shade it casts.

Robert Browning (Paracelsus)

Fran's Freestuff

http://franontheedge.blogspot.com/

http://www.FranOnTheEdge.com


skiwillgee ( ) posted Thu, 28 May 2009 at 6:03 PM

I use Bryce because it is fun.  It is unrivaled in ease of use for a non-pro and with the ability to convert images to objects makes simple work-a-rounds available for the modeling impaired.

I have some other apps but, again, Bryce is fun.


lornix ( ) posted Fri, 29 May 2009 at 2:24 AM

I still use Bryce. I doled out for an expensive modeling app too, but Bryce still has it's place in my tool box. I have current personal projects on the go in Bryce :-)


Incognitas ( ) posted Fri, 29 May 2009 at 8:25 AM

Quote - I seem to remember doing some Islamic designs with terrains - using photos of Islamic doorways... I think.

I'll look later, but Bryce is busy rendering for the challenge - dunno if I'll make it so I hate to disturb it just now - and I think that answers your question about - 'is anyone working with Bryce'?

i.e. - yes, me.

Lol.

Thank you..That would be extremely kind of you.

I did start to investigate the terrain way of doing things but got side tracked by the new DS plugin for the draping of clothes and needed to get that out of the way so I need to fire up Photoshop and get back to it., but sadly  a week off from school has been taken up with catching up on all the boring stuff like lapsed paperwork and housework.

I really must get to grips with Carrara this summer if only to learn how to just model stuff that I can then use in Bryce.

Hope that explanation doesn't bring the wrath of Bryster down on my head...


FranOnTheEdge ( ) posted Mon, 01 June 2009 at 6:49 PM

file_432097.jpg

A couple of terrain doorways - need to adjust the stone one more, but gives an idea

Measure your mind's height
by the shade it casts.

Robert Browning (Paracelsus)

Fran's Freestuff

http://franontheedge.blogspot.com/

http://www.FranOnTheEdge.com


Incognitas ( ) posted Tue, 02 June 2009 at 5:21 AM

Oooh those are so cool..

I've got a few really nice pavement/garden tile terrains using this method but I'm finding getting houses and such, much harder work..

Never mind I've got more time to myself coming up as the school summer vacation beckons and it's a fallow period for supply/substitute teachers during the last 6 weeks of the summer term So I can get back to experimentation.

You have inspired me again..

However Dazs last Bryce terrain offer has left me spitting.I have been trying to get a desert sands terrain sorted for ages and they just had a new offer on such an item.Frankly though I don't really think the price was right just to learn the secret of doing sand dunes just to get 1 Bryce terrain for double figures..


skiwillgee ( ) posted Tue, 02 June 2009 at 9:58 PM

@Incognitas

If you really want or need a great natural terrain app, take a look at GeoControl. 

runs away looking back for Cardinal and chair.


FranOnTheEdge ( ) posted Sun, 14 June 2009 at 5:25 PM

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Incognitas,

You want to do a sand dune using a terrain? - I don't know about the Daz thing, but it shouldn't be too hard to do.  And images of sand are easy enough to come by.  But I wouldn't use such an image to drive the terrain, I'd just use it as a material, and for the bump.

Measure your mind's height
by the shade it casts.

Robert Browning (Paracelsus)

Fran's Freestuff

http://franontheedge.blogspot.com/

http://www.FranOnTheEdge.com


Incognitas ( ) posted Sun, 14 June 2009 at 5:34 PM

Actually my gripe about the desert terrain was the price...I'm rather annoyed at a recent trend at daz where I'm getting less bang for my buck particularly in regards to some Bryce items.

There are still some Byrcers who offer quality and quantity but I'm seeing some who are offering hardly any quantity(value for money).You would think they were selling Carrara items.


TheBryster ( ) posted Mon, 15 June 2009 at 9:41 AM

There's a similar image in the tutorial that comes with B5.

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All the Woes of a World by Jonathan Icknield aka The Bryster


And in my final hours - I would cling rather to the tattooed hand of kindness - than the unblemished hand of hate...


FranOnTheEdge ( ) posted Tue, 16 June 2009 at 8:12 AM

Bryster,

True.  That's where I got the ball from - everything else except the beach throw (towel, blanket thingie) is from various freestuff, here and around the net.

I used a nice sand image from LeMog's - which I am really glad to see is back up after a long absence - for the sand material.

It would be interesting to know what exactly was in that sand dunes package that Daz are selling, but I too could not pay that much for it.  That package does have Carrara items in it as well as Bryce, so maybe that's why the high price?

The Bryce item is said to be a .PGM - but I have no idea what that is.  I would be vaugely interested to learn what a .PGM is, if anyone knows, but it's no biggie to me.

Measure your mind's height
by the shade it casts.

Robert Browning (Paracelsus)

Fran's Freestuff

http://franontheedge.blogspot.com/

http://www.FranOnTheEdge.com


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