Reality 3 - Miki 4 - Tyler - Sneak Peek at SIGGRAPH 2012

**Press Release - August 03, 2012
August 03, 2012
Smith Micro Treats Poser Fans to New Characters, Features and an Exclusive Reality 3 Partnership at SIGGRAPH 2012

Preview the Reality 3 Rendering Engine for Poser 9 and Poser Pro 2012
Get a sneak peak at Miki 4 and new Tyler characters for Poser 9 and Poser Pro 2012
Poser Service Release 3 featuring a GoZ plug-in for Pixologic's Zbrush**

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**PS; Over on RDNA, Coop said there will be a new Poser website launched...

They also mentioned a new GND figure Tyler by Blackhearted :)

Wait...Reality 3? And if it's like Reality for DS, it's not a rendering engine ;). It's a bridge TO the rendering engine (Luxrender). For Poser??? POSER?? That a typo too?

Laurie

It's not a typo Laurie, Reality 3 for Poser, you read it right :)

But you said that was impossible Paolo....LOL :P

I guess ya found a way ;).

Laurie

We will say more at SIGGRAPH :)

Hope you all dig Miki. 

I'm really looking forward to Tyler.

Laurie

Quote - I'm really looking forward to Tyler.

Laurie

Blackhearted did great work on Tyler, as did Teyon on Miki4 and of course - there's Darrell making sure it bends.

I hate anticipation. The suspense, it kills me!

Quote - We will say more at SIGGRAPH :)

Looking forward to the full annoucement :-)
Kudos good sir!

"I've seen The Future & it will Be..." ~ Prince, "The Future"
"The only way to get through this is together" The Oracle,  Matrix Reloaded

Hey Alex, good to see you. I was thinking of emailing you just a couple of days ago but between the preparation for SIGGRAPH and other things time just flew by. 

It will be fun!

Quote - Hey Alex, good to see you. I was thinking of emailing you just a couple of days ago but between the preparation for SIGGRAPH and other things time just flew by. 

It will be fun!

:-) Not a problem...Blow their socks off in LA next week!

Unfortunately I cannot be in LA. It was all planned but two days ago my wife had to be hospitalized for a sudden and rather serious perforation of the duodenom (the "exit" part of the stomach). She is in need of continous care and I can't leave at this time. Althought the hospital is great I need to be there a few hours a day to help like only a husband can.

So, there will be the capable people of the Poser team doing all the presentation. We are coordinating together and they will have all the information that we can share at this time. If you are in LA please stop at booth #1130 and see what the future looks like.

Item of information, Smith Micro's office is ten minutes away from my home/office so we work very closely. 

Cheers. 

You are right - your wife needs you!

Very exciting news about new developments for Poser! The SigGraph exhibition will be in good hands.

Quote - > Quote - I'm really looking forward to Tyler.

Laurie

 

Blackhearted did great work on Tyler, as did Teyon on Miki4 and of course - there's Darrell making sure it bends.

Ah, so that's what the "no comment" was about in the other thread? Sweet!

Oooooooh Miki4. :)

What will happen with people like me who bought Miki3 when she came out? Will we be getting a discount or free upgrading? :D

Steve!

I'm very excited about all this news! Teyon, Blackhearted and Darrell-I'm

looking forward to seeing your efforts!

Quote - > Quote - I'm really looking forward to Tyler.

Laurie

 

Blackhearted did great work on Tyler, as did Teyon on Miki4 and of course - there's Darrell making sure it bends.

Aaaaaaagh!!!!!! Thud!!!!! The last sound from my bank account. Still trying to revive it. All I can say, is THANKS. Looking forward to details, but already shifting funds.

I'm curious about the new figures and also about the reality plug-in except for one thing...... the price of the plug-in. I'm not willing to pay $50-60 for a plug-in that gives me access to a free rendering engine, also knowing that a community effort was made to create a free plug-in for Poser.

The current price for reality 2 imo cannot be justified, I'm sure people are willing to pay it. I've paid $68 (when it was on sale a few months back) for Poser Pro 2012 and that sure gives me a lot more bang for my money, then a plug-in with only one functionality.

We'll see what happens, I'm sure the new figures will be interesting.

are you sure ít's your bank account making those noises? It sounds more like your banker. He'll get his bonus anyway, no worry.

I expected Reality 3 for Poser (from Paolo's moves) and Miki 4 (from Japanese market  /Manga moves), so that's good.

Well, I'm excited about the new figures!  I've lusted after Miki3, and really did my best to wait for Miki4.  And, finally, a weight mapped MALE!!!!!!!!!!  YES!

My only problem with Miki (any version) is that it's an Asian figure that only does Asian well ;). Seems a bit too narrow for me ;). For Asian I use Angela and Ang 2 and therefore don't need another Asian girl :).

Tyler on the other hand....I'm totally excited about a new man on the block :D Especially if it's Gabe's.

Laurie

Hoping your wife does well, keeping you both in my thoughts.

Quote - My only problem with Miki (any version) is that it's an Asian figure that only does Asian well ;). Seems a bit too narrow for me ;). For Asian I use Angela and Ang 2 and therefore don't need another Asian girl :).

Tyler on the other hand....I'm totally excited about a new man on the block :D Especially if it's Gabe's.

Laurie

Ah Laurie, Miki's so cute though.

Thank you very much Marque.

to be fair...  I'm not sure if 60% of the worlds population (depending on how well she does the various asian ethnicities) should really be called narrow

Quote - My only problem with Miki (any version) is that it's an Asian figure that only does Asian well ;). Seems a bit too narrow for me ;). For Asian I use Angela and Ang 2 and therefore don't need another Asian girl :).

Tyler on the other hand....I'm totally excited about a new man on the block :D Especially if it's Gabe's.

Laurie

does Reality do path tracing?

oh man, now i haz to save money.  there goes the rest of my social life.

Quote - does Reality do path tracing?

 

nope. it just exports. LuxRender on the other hand, Does.

Quote - > Quote - My only problem with Miki (any version) is that it's an Asian figure that only does Asian well ;). Seems a bit too narrow for me ;). For Asian I use Angela and Ang 2 and therefore don't need another Asian girl :).

Tyler on the other hand....I'm totally excited about a new man on the block :D Especially if it's Gabe's.

Laurie

 

Ah Laurie, Miki's so cute though.

I'm sure she is...lol. I already have an asian figure tho ;). And a few that do Asian, and Causcasian and African ;).

Laurie

Quote - does Reality do path tracing?

oh man, now i haz to save money.  there goes the rest of my social life.

Reality does not render. It exports to Luxrender tho, which does the render :).

Laurie

Yes Paolo, I hope your wife gets well in fast order :).

Laurie

Quote - does Reality do path tracing?

Path tracing is part of LuxRender. Reality supports all the rendering modes of Lux including BiDir path tracing, Path tracing, SPPM and PhotonMap. Where possible there is support for GPU acceleration. Plus Reality allows you to render your scene with both LuxRender and SLG. SLG, which stands for "SmallLux GPU", is a GPU-based renderer that is a small subset of Lux. It's incredibly fast and it's very well suited for animations. Think of it as Octane without the price tag :)

Thank you Laurie, much appreciated.

Luxrender is great. The wait for a render (given you don't use the gpu) is worth it ;). From what I've seen of Reality for DS, it looks like a full-featured, easy-to-use exporter. I wish you many sales :).

Laurie

Thank you Laurie. BTW, there are many ways of accelerating the render and many ways of saving time by having a much simpler workflow that uses real lights.

Case in point, take a look at this post by FSMCDesign, the Dino scene took 18 minutes from start to finish:

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2849428&page=56

A typical Lux scene takes a fraction of the lights necessary for a biased renderer and that means less work and less tweaking. BTW, other renderers like VRay have the same time requirements and VRay is used extensively in the VFX industry. Like with everything, practice helps in finding the fastest workflows.

Cheers.

I've used Blender's Cycles. It uses GPU also and was blazing fast for me and I only have 96 cuda cores ;). I assume my render time will go up the more things I have in the scene and some complex scenes may not be suitable for GPU rendering, but for the simpler scenes it should work great.

Laurie

i've been dreaming of vray.  i didn't know Luxrender could be the same.

am i understanding correctly?  

Reality3 converts a pz3 to Luxrender?

would the materials from poser need further work done?

Thanks.

MistyLaraPrincess, at this time I'm not at liberty to divulge more details. We will have everything revealed on the 7th, in occasion of Poser presentation at SIGGRAPH. Once the announcement is done I will be able to share more details.

Cheers.

Anything that goes from one program to a renderer (Luxrender) will have to have it's materials converted to something Luxrender knows and understands. Reality will convert your Poser materials to Luxrender materials that are comparable. Therefore you don't even need complex materials inside Poser - they'll get converted anyway. When I use Pose2Lux I make sure all my texures are basically Poser 4 style texures. The exporter converts them to a Luxrender material.

Laurie

what about strand hair material?

I don't know that Paolo's program will export strand hair. Pose2Lux does. But in order to do so it has to change it to a mesh and that takes up a whole lot of resources. You're better off using transmapped hair.

Laurie

One thing that I can share is that there are no similarities between Reality and other Lux exporters so it does not help to draw conclusions based on other programs. This is not a criticism of other programs. We use different approaches and it's good to understand that Reality has its own philosophy and flexibility. Developing Reality is my day job, which puts me in a very special position compared to others who write software in their spare time. 

Hope this helps.

ahh, patience. groan

Well, IMVHO there is nothing difficult nor crippled about the exporter that Snarlygribbly wrote. It works just fine for my purposes, I can write my own shaders for it and it's free ;). Sure it's not flashy or particulary pretty and doesn't look as nice as Reality's interface for the DS exporter, but it gets the job done ;). Snarly's been very generous with his time and his scripts :).

Laurie

Quote - One thing that I can share is that there are no similarities between Reality and other Lux exporters so it does not help to draw conclusions based on other programs.

well

of course. other exporters don't cost anything. only reality does. even the 3Dmax one is free... thats one difference right there..

plus it has NO similarites? you re-wrote Lux and the Lux formats specially? we can't write our own shaders .. like we can for Blender, etc? you'lve locked the formats?

Quote - Thank you Laurie. BTW, there are many ways of accelerating the render and many ways of saving time by having a much simpler workflow that uses real lights.

Case in point, take a look at this post by FSMCDesign, the Dino scene took 18 minutes from start to finish:

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2849428&page=56

 

A typical Lux scene takes a fraction of the lights necessary for a biased renderer and that means less work and less tweaking. BTW, other renderers like VRay have the same time requirements and VRay is used extensively in the VFX industry. Like with everything, practice helps in finding the fastest workflows.

Cheers.

I looked at that, and it said 18 minutes to hitting the render button, but 7 hours to render!

Dana

ALL unbiased render engines take hours to resolve...More time if you're using emitters vs lights, but it's a long time either way. Still, time = money and you get what you pay for. Physically based render engines render a lot purtier than biased engines. 

True Hana ;). It may take longer to render but the result is superior ;).

Laurie

Quote - plus it has NO similarites? you re-wrote Lux and the Lux formats specially? we can't write our own shaders .. like we can for Blender, etc? you'lve locked the formats?

Good questions, let me clarify. File formats have nothing to do with my previous statement. For example, both Poser and Blender can read and write OBJ files. In fact the OBJ file is at the core of Poser's workflow. Nevertheless the user experience with Poser and Blender is completely different and many Poser users would rather seat on the dentist chair than use Blender to pose a figure :)

For decades artists had the ability to model using the well-known polygon but it wasn't until ZBrush arrived that we had digital sculpting. The User Experience is what makes ZBrush so powerful. Its tools, and how the problem of sculpting is approached make it possible to create the models that were not possible before. When you look at the files on disk at the end it's the same .OBJ file format used by many other apps. It's how you get there that is making the difference.

Reality is all about the User Experience and how we get the results from the scene created, in this case, with Poser to the final product in Lux. In that regard I believe that my tool stand on its own.

Hope this helps.