Has anyone else noticed this problem with Poser 9 (SR 3.1 - running on W7 64bit)...

After a render, even a small one (taking 5 minutes or less), it seems to take ages for the program to actually respond?

I mean, the render is done -- you can see it's done from the time bar, and (if it's small enough) you can see the whole thing in the workspace window, but the "spinning wheel of death" is running if you mouse-over the workspace.

You can minimize the Poser window if you want, but...

You can't actually work in the workspace, like saving the picture you've just rendered.

The tiny render I just did took more than 3 minutes (possibly more than 4 - I wasn't keeping careful track) to return control of the program to me after the render "finished."

Does anyone know what might be going on here?

Is there something I can change in preferences to cut down this lag time?  It's really annoying on short renders.  (Long ones I often leave the computer anyway.)

P7, which I used previously, did not seem to have this problem.  Render finished, a couple of seconds later, you could save it.

I suspect (though I have no proof) that this may have something to do with all those previous renders P9 keeps hanging around in the system.  Those can be useful (if you hit render accidentally rather than save), but I'll gladly dump everything after the first 3-6 to cut this lag time.

Thoughts?

Solutions?

Am I crazy?

My system's not top-of-the-line fast or memory filled, but the computer is just over a year old.  And, like I sad, I didn't have this problem with P7.

Thanks.

• Steve

Do you have render to a separate process checked in your general settings? If you don't, check that and see if it solves your problem.

Laurie

Checking separate process shouldn't change anything in the Poser recovery after render.  I haven't seen that on an XP OS.

Question: Is Poser installed in Programs Files folder of Win7?  If so, with limited UAC, Win7 might be slowing the process down by analyzing the rendering.  But because there is no other system information, I am only guessing.

I did not.

But I do now, and I'm giving it a try...

It does seem to be speeding up the render a bit.  (How does this work?  I never tried it in previous versions.)

... Still took 3 minutes or so to let me use the workspace, though.

Maybe it cut down the "return time" a little but without putting a stopwatch to it, it still seemed pretty long.

Other ideas?

• S

Quote - Do you have render to a separate process checked in your general settings? If you don't, check that and see if it solves your problem.

Laurie

All separate process does is make Firefly act like a separate program running along side Poser. I really can't NOT check it or Poser will either crash when I cancel a render or hang forever. LOL.

Perhaps hborre might have better insight? :) Poser isn't slow after a render for me, but then I don't have it installed in Program Files either..hehe.

Laurie

Quote - Checking separate process shouldn't change anything in the Poser recovery after render.  I haven't seen that on an XP OS.

Question: Is Poser installed in Programs Files folder of Win7?  If so, with limited UAC, Win7 might be slowing the process down by analyzing the rendering.  But because there is no other system information, I am only guessing.

It's installed in the standard place it wanted to install.  The 64-bit program files folder, I think.

UAC?

So, basically, you think Windows is looking each render over as it saves the preview/backup?

(It wouldn't be my Bit Defender, would it?)

My P7 file was installed directly to the C drive (still is), as someone suggested that would be good at the time.

• S

Oh, I would definitely try turning Bit Defender off and rerender and see if it makes a difference.

UAC is Windows User Account Control, Microsoft's way of trying to keep malicious programs from doing anything with your valid programs. I wouldn't suggest turning it off (it's on by default) unless you're a computer power user like some of us are and really don't engage in any risky behavior and have a really good AV :)

I have an installations folder (Installs) and all my programs are installed there. I only put in Program Files what won't let me put it anywhere else. LOL.

Laurie

Yeah, I could turn BD off -- though I'd prefer to not be online when I do, which would mean missing out on any other advice, right now.

;-)

• S

Yeah, try that when you're not online definitely ;).

Laurie

UAC has played havoc for many users in many different ways.  The default install for Poser 9 under the Win 7 enviroment is Programs Files with content installed into the Documents folder, a share location.  This I should have clarified in my original response post. 

The usual issue for many unfamiliar with UAC & Poser, unable to find content loaded into Poser's parent runtime folder.  Other problematic manifestions are unable to load figures, clothes or morphs, unable to render or simply application crashes.  If you are guilty of the above, reinstallation to the proper default location will correct the problem.  Otherwise, 3rd party security programs could be the culprit and LaurieA's advice is relative good to follow.

Yeah, I've done the standard install with P9 in the program files and the content/runtime in the document files -- like it wants.  No problem there.

It may be the anti-virus, but I'm having trouble figuring out how to turn that off -- even temporarily.  But, it' expiring in 8 days, and I have an upgrade handy, so I may try that.

Any other tips?

Yeah, I can't think of anything else that it might be. It's hard to try and diagnose when we don't know what you have running in the background, etc. LOL

You can probably turn off Bit Defender thru the Task Manager in the Services tab. It may immediately restart tho. Some AVs will do that, some won't. Most do ;).

Laurie

I had that problem when it was first released, but the SR fixed it.  Check and make sure your Poser version is 9.0.3.23027 (Help>About Poser)

You could try switching your preview render to SreeD before you render and see if that helps.  Right click on the viewport, and select SreedD, and render.  You can switch it back afterwards.  If that does help, you might try updating your graphics driver if there is a newer version avalable...