Quote - Is there anyone here or anyone that you know of that's capable of converting a Poser prop dynamic cloth item to one that will work in DS? I'd really like to team up with one if there is ;). Laurie

To be used in DS, there are two choices: rig the item to be conforming, or build it in the proprietary Optitex software ($10,000 per license last I checked). :(

What we need is for someone to finish this kind of plugin:

http://www.sharecg.com/v/39578/view/Plug-in/Physics-Playground-Plugin-for-DAZ-Studio

Our best bet might be to find a developer willing to tackle the job and raise money in advance via Kickstarter:

http://www.daz3d.com/forums/viewthread/13062/

Here's my post from that thread:

Quote - The proposed plugin would implement an open-source soft-body dynamics engine, e.g. Bullet, in DS. The user interface would allow the user to specify a single object in the scene to drape, and one or more collision objects. The drape object would be extracted from the scene, along with copies of the collision objects, the drape would be simulated, and then the drape object in the scene would be replaced with the new draped object. Any realtime view of the drape could occur in a separate window, if this would ease the implementation. This would allow conforming clothing to be loaded, fit to a figure, including morphs, scaling, etc., and then draped from that position. Ideally there would also be a command to revert to the conforming version if the user wishes to adjust the pose and re-drape. Because the clothing would be conformed and posed before the drape, this would maintain the ease of use advantages of the OptiTex solution, but because the clothes would also be morphed to fit the figure, including scaling, limitations of the existing OptiTex solution would be avoided. This method would allow any object in the scene to be draped, opening up the creation of dynamic items to many creators.

I understand that the effort required would not be minor. This is why I am proposing a Kickstarter campaign. Using Kickstarter, funds would be raised in advance to cover the initial development work, reducing the risk to the developer. Participants in the Kickstarter would receive discounts or waivers on the cost of the final product, depending on the level of funding per contributor. One of the most essential elements of a successful Kickstarter campaign is an existing community with an interest in the project who can be made aware of the funding drive—we have that here.

Kickstarter requires that software projects have an identified developer in order to be listed. Again, I know this project is beyond my present coding capabilities. Is there anyone else here with experience writing plugins for DS who might be interested in working on such a project?

Note that with the new plugin interface for Poser, this could be a multi-platform solution, as it would offer capabilities not available in the existing Cloth Room.

I think there's a lot of interest, but no developer willing to commit yet.

Quote - ROFLMAO

 

while why not just Orlando in that case

That's the name of the Goat!

The only people that can release renders at the moment are those working on her.

Once they have her ready, then Dawn will go out ot the beta testers.

All the best.

Great Uncle LROG

most the clothes I make are poser dynamic simply because I prefer the more natural look they give it would be great to be able to do ones for dawn that could be used in ds LOL also that would solve my ds learning problem ;)

edit to add this was in answer to Nekokami's post

Quote - So here is a Poser render with no SSS and AO, with the highest auto settings and smooth polygons on.

 

And how does it look with sss and IDL?

Body?

Thanks for letting us know about this, Richard.

We'll definitely do CrossDresser support for Dawn when she's ready.

Thanks for droping by Evilinocence, thought you would like to know that people were already asking for Crossdresser support.

All the best.

Great Uncle LROG

She's beautiful.  Just gorgeous.

But yeah, that Poser render with SSS doesn't look right.  I don't think they picked the right lighting for the shaders they used.

Quote - OK one more with SSS Mats and IDL with smoothing. :D

Ok! Now we're talking! Starting to look better. :P

I think she looks beautiful! And, I'd love to see a render of the body, too. Also, was the size question answered? Is she bigger, same, or smaller than V4?

Oh, she definitely looks better with the IDL lighting.

Though her hair has that transmap problem that often goes with IDL. 

Quote - I think she looks beautiful! And, I'd love to see a render of the body, too. Also, was the size question answered? Is she bigger, same, or smaller than V4?

Interesting you should ask that, just now I was wondering the same thing.

Ok, there's a lot of pages to go through here and I just don't have the time.

Do we know who the "we" behind this project and website are?

Ok, found it.  Interesting.  Some history there I was unaware of.

Please tell me there's a guy in the works, too many women for my taste :)

Quote - Ok, there's a lot of pages to go through here and I just don't have the time.

 

Do we know who the "we" behind this project and website are?

Yes we do!

Quote - Ok, there's a lot of pages to go through here and I just don't have the time.  Do we know who the "we" behind this project and website are?

Yes, we do.  It's on Page 2 of this thread.  Post by HiveWire3D (Steve Kondris).

The Poser render looks kinda off. But she cetainly have a pretty face. This MAY be a real winner! excited

Quote - Told  ya it didn't mean much that I didn't recognize it. LOL. I don't tend to do window shopping when there's no money for shopping :P.

Thanks swordsman. I guess that one's going on the wishlist. I like it ;).

Laurie

I thought it was said that there was a hair included in the package and thought that it was that hair that was used.  Maybe I'm wrong, though.

Dana

Quote - "

Okay, now if there was a possible male, what would the name be?

Dawn was easy enough, as in start of a new Dawn.

All the best.

Great Uncle LROG

"

With every new "Dawn" comes a new Dae?

Quote - Ok, there's a lot of pages to go through here and I just don't have the time.

Do we know who the "we" behind this project and website are?

Steve Kondris, Chris Creek and Eric Merrick.

-AniMajik

Thats a nice looking texture!

I wouldn't worry about the render too much.  I cant think of anything that looks wrong about that render that is integral to the figure rather than to do with lighting, scene set up or shaders.  None of which I would be likely to use out of the box set up for anyway.

Quote - Aw nuts! Well, that blows that idea I guess ;).

Thanks folks ;).

Laurie

Martin is a pretty easy going guy, he might be interested in helping create for the new figure.  He has teamed up with several artists to help make their visions into optitex dynamics for DS.  It would be a collaboration.

Dana

Quote - Quote - " Okay, now if there was a possible male, what would the name be?

Dawn was easy enough, as in start of a new Dawn.

All the best.

Great Uncle LROG

With every new "Dawn" comes a new Dae?

Has any thought of "Don" for the male?  "Don" and "Dawn"

Short, one syllable names.

-AniMajik

evilded777asked: > Quote - Please tell me there's a guy in the works, too many women for my taste :)

Down the road, it's being talked about as are, eventually, kids and a baby

Quote - Has any though of "Don" for the male?  "Don" and "Dawn"

Short, one syllable names.

-AniMajik

I suggested that about 20 or so pages ago.

Quote - > Quote - Has any though of "Don" for the male?  "Don" and "Dawn"

Short, one syllable names.

-AniMajik

 

I suggested that about 20 or so pages ago.

Sorry, must have missed that post. 

-AniMajik

I suggested Dusk on page 5 - Still like that best :)

We already have a "Don," though.  Judy's beau.

And yes, Meatsim's right.  Nothing wrong with the Poser render that a few fixes to lights and/or shaders can't fix.  People who use the newer versions of Poser are used to making those. 

Looking at it again, I think it's gamma correction that has to be fixed on the hair.  I bet the transmap has the wrong GC.

Quote - > Quote - Has any though of "Don" for the male?  "Don" and "Dawn"

Short, one syllable names.

-AniMajik

 

I suggested that about 20 or so pages ago.

The male character furnished with Poser 5 was named Don. Still furnished with later versions also. I doubt the name would be reused.

Chris Creek said he liked "Dusk" and has been using that to refer to the male figure.  Doesn't mean that will be the actual name, though. 

how about Dustin or Dusty

Quote - Quote - " Okay, now if there was a possible male, what would the name be?

Dawn was easy enough, as in start of a new Dawn.

All the best.

Great Uncle LROG

"

 

With every new "Dawn" comes a new Dae?

LOL I was thinking the same thing.

Quote - OK one more with SSS Mats and IDL with smoothing. :D

So pretty! Very excited about her coming.

Does something look a little odd in the nostril area?

Anyway, great work!

Quote - Well, I am still concerned about the PMD thing. There is apparently no final version of inject PMD for DS4+. I 'think' that this will prevent DS4 users from getting some items from Poser only freebie makers. (I know, I am not usually concerned about DS users, but ....)
Yes, I know how to create a PMD morph, the issue is additional support for DS users.

Bill

This is what has been bothering me the most, but I've been trying hard not to sound like the bad news bear. As far as I'm concerned content making for Dawn is a one way operation, DAZ Studio to Poser, WM content can be exported with the CR2 exporter, with a bit of manual effort we can create an injectable PMD, we can create PP2 (got a script for that but I need to check it still works in 4.6), and we can even create some PZ2. The Problem is that there is no way of getting Poser WM into DS, the PZ3 importer plugin (how we get Poser content into DS) pretty much stops at Poser6 coding, so all we get is the mesh, half a rig and a pile of morphs that need to be rebuilt (an issue with how DS4 treats morphs in Poser figures/conformers).

So when you add that Poser format morph injections are useless for a Tri-Ax figure you then see why I have concerns, to get around this there is going to have to be some serious colaborations going on between Poser & DS content makers, as well as there being a seriously good set of projection templates for use in DS.

Quote - Well, I am still concerned about the PMD thing.  There is apparently no final version of inject PMD for DS4+.  I 'think' that this will prevent DS4 users from getting some items from Poser only freebie makers.  (I know, I am not usually concerned about DS users, but ....)

Yes, I know how to create a PMD morph, the issue is additional support for DS users.

Bill

Let me go find it, there's a way to load PMD files in Daz 4+, it worked in 4.5 too. Believe me, that's how I use Melody and Micah morphs and i would never give them up! ;)

Quote - As far as I'm concerned content making for Dawn is a one way operation, DAZ Studio to Poser, WM content can be exported with the CR2 exporter, with a bit of manual effort we can create an injectable PMD, we can create PP2 (got a script for that but I need to check it still works in 4.6), and we can even create some PZ2. The Problem is that there is no way of getting Poser WM into DS, the PZ3 importer plugin (how we get Poser content into DS) pretty much stops at Poser6 coding, so all we get is the mesh, half a rig and a pile of morphs that need to be rebuilt (an issue with how DS4 treats morphs in Poser figures/conformers).

So when you add that Poser format morph injections are useless for a Tri-Ax figure you then see why I have concerns, to get around this there is going to have to be some serious colaborations going on between Poser & DS content makers, as well as there being a seriously good set of projection templates for use in DS.

I must be missing something somewhere .... (been a long time since I've used DS ... pre-Genesis days, pardon the basic question).  But wouldn't the projection templates for each app (Poser/DS) come from Dawn herself, seeing as she has already been rigged and weight mapped for each app?

This is sort of a new situation here. This is the first figure that has been weight mapped SPECIFICALLY and NATIVELY for each application, so that has to be factored in too.  There was a post somewhere that talked about going from DAZ Studio to Poser, or going from Poser to DAZ Studio .. and now I can't find it!

1. Stop painting black in the nostrils

2. Remove the burned in specular in the eyes and on the lips.

3. Use EZSkin and it will look better and you don't have to do any work.

Hi

email did not work!

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I'd love to beta test-I was part of the V4-WM and clothing fitting utility team. And I'd love to help with the new Dawn!

 Thanks

        Eric

Quote - Hi

email did not work!

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I'd love to beta test-I was part of the V4-WM and clothing fitting utility team. And I'd love to help with the new Dawn!

 

 Thanks

        Eric

I've had that problem and finally found out what was going on from my friend.  It turns out, I was using Outlook to send emails from my email account on my own domain, but it's going through Comcast's server.  To the other end, it looks like a spoofed email origin, so they block it and/or send it back.  I know that my domain is not blocked, because I sent the same email, with the same subject line, from my domain directly using my webmail app, and it wasn't blocked or returned.

Dana

When Steve posted the email addy, he put spaces in it. Did you take those out before you sent it? I did, and mine reached it's destination.

Laurie

We will be posting images of Dawn's mesh next, so be patient, but they will arrive as well before too long.

Someone asked about the mesh being dense enough around the breasts and hips for more realistic morphs... the answer is Yes. She is very well designed for morphs. We will have a morph add on pack upon release, and have plans for many more morph packs as well.

I'll let Chris answer as to the size of Dawn compared to V4, he would know best.

Aside: animajik and evilinnocence, please email me when you get a moment. thanks

Quote - > Quote - Well, I am still concerned about the PMD thing.  There is apparently no final version of inject PMD for DS4+.  I 'think' that this will prevent DS4 users from getting some items from Poser only freebie makers.  (I know, I am not usually concerned about DS users, but ....)

Yes, I know how to create a PMD morph, the issue is additional support for DS users.

Bill

 

Let me go find it, there's a way to load PMD files in Daz 4+, it worked in 4.5 too. Believe me, that's how I use Melody and Micah morphs and i would never give them up! ;)

I would be interested in seeing how to inject pmds in DS 4.5 or 4.6.

To the best of my knowledge the free script did not work in either.

Quote - We will be posting images of Dawn's mesh next, so be patient, but they will arrive as well before too long.

Someone asked about the mesh being dense enough around the breasts and hips for more realistic morphs... the answer is Yes. She is very well designed for morphs. We will have a morph add on pack upon release, and have plans for many more morph packs as well.

I'll let Chris answer as to the size of Dawn compared to V4, he would know best.

 

Aside: animajik and evilinnocence, please email me when you get a moment. thanks

I am hoping that the introductory price for that morph pack is something quite affordable. Like, down around the 10 dollar range. And nowhere near what a certain other store seems to think "low priced" and "affordable" is.

It's time I started supporting my Poser habit with commercial products again ;).

As for "affordable" I remember spending about 200 smackers for Vicky 1 and all of her morphs packs after all was said and done and considered it a bargain ;).

Times have changed tho and times are bad, I know. Everywhere.

Laurie

Thanks DanaTA and LaurieA

LaurieA had the correct answer!

Quote - Thanks DanaTA and LaurieA

LaurieA had the correct answer!

WOOT! :).

Laurie

Quote - As for "affordable" I remember spending about 200 smackers for Vicky 1 and all of her morphs packs after all was said and done and considered it a bargain ;).

And the bikini!

Quote - > Quote - As for "affordable" I remember spending about 200 smackers for Vicky 1 and all of her morphs packs after all was said and done and considered it a bargain ;).

And the bikini!

Yup. LOL

Laurie