Quote - Velvet in DS - this is just my humble effort, but maybe somebody likes it as a starting point.

Nice...I always wonder where the best place to plug in the velvet brick was. I'll put a link for this in the tutorial listing.

"I'll set up a shader thread over there where we can discuss converting between DS and Poser."

pendraia, I respect you for your serious workmanship. You you don't feel personally attacked only because I advocate Photoshop!

A shader thread at Hivewire sounds nice. Let us discuss together! I can always benefit by some shader knowledge which I have deliberately neglected before. I use a metal shader and know how to correct Poser displacement that's about the extent of my knowledge. Of course, once you are into shaders you need also to understand the shaders in Daz, the shaders in C4D, the shaders in ZBrush and so on and so forth. Life is short and art is long!

It was no readymade effect though. I added a 128,128,128 gray scale on top of your render and set the blend mode to overlay. Then I handpainted with a 10% white brush.

3 velvet shaders I use in Daz Studio, from left to right:

1. Calida3D's velvet shaders, she has them in HSS and SSS versions, and a smooth as well as a crushed velvet. 

2. Fisty's Sparkle and velvet shaders

3. Velvet preset from Fabricator, displacement turned down.

I use Fisty's sparkles and velvets a LOT as well as Calida's very versatile velvets. 

1. Calida3D's velvet shaders, she has them in HSS and SSS versions, and a smooth as well as a crushed velvet. 

2. Fisty's Sparkle and velvet shaders

3. Velvet preset from Fabricator, displacement turned down.

I use Fisty's sparkles and velvets a LOT as well as Calida's very versatile velvets. 

Quote - "I'll set up a shader thread over there where we can discuss converting between DS and Poser."

pendraia, I respect you for your serious workmanship. You you don't feel personally attacked only because I advocate Photoshop!

A shader thread at Hivewire sounds nice. Let us discuss together! I can always benefit by some shader knowledge which I have deliberately neglected before. I use a metal shader and know how to correct Poser displacement that's about the extent of my knowledge. Of course, once you are into shaders you need also to understand the shaders in Daz, the shaders in C4D, the shaders in ZBrush and so on and so forth. Life is short and art is long!

It was no readymade effect though. I added a 128,128,128 gray scale on top of your render and set the blend mode to overlay. Then I handpainted with a 10% white brush.

I'm always interested in new techniques and strategies. I can spend hours in photoshop playing around with filters and layer blends.; )

I agree life is too short and too much that I would like to explore. Never enough time.

I look forward to discussing this more with you at Hivewire

Quote - 3 velvet shaders I use in Daz Studio, from left to right:

1. Calida3D's velvet shaders, she has them in HSS and SSS versions, and a smooth as well as a crushed velvet. 

2. Fisty's Sparkle and velvet shaders

3. Velvet preset from Fabricator, displacement turned down.

 

I use Fisty's sparkles and velvets a LOT as well as Calida's very versatile velvets. 

All very beautiful shaders...

That was the only node I used for the materials.

All the best.

Great Uncle LROG

How it seems to be with me:-

Poser and Studio users will have nodesmaterialsshaders that will work in both systems. Great.

Poser and Studio users will have nodesmaterialsshaders that will work just in their systems. Hmmmm. frustrating, but until someone makes a conversion, there is nothing we can do.

Poser and Studio users will have texture files that will work in both systems.

The big difference with materialsshaders and texture files are the sizes.

One of the largest sized material files I have used on my project is 137k, not meg, k.

If I use a texture file then the size of the file starts at X amount of meg.

Now, I don't know about anyone else, but I would like things that take up less space, so I can have more textures to play with.

At the moment the project is over 300+ usuable content thumbnails, over 31 folders,  and comes in at 13.1 meg. Just imagine if I had done all those files as texture files. I'd hate to think what the size would be.

And the final thing is......

Remember that not everyone has a fast internet access, some are still on dial up or on restricted amount of download. So, try and keep things to a reasonable size.

All the best.

Great Uncle LROG

Quote - Dawn working in Studio with my project. Shows that the Poser Granite node works in both systems.

That was the only node I used for the materials.

All the best.

Great Uncle LROG

Hi Richard, would it be possible to post a close up render of the material you are using in both programs? It would be great to be able to compare and see if there is much difference.

thanks

Pen

The materials I have used are very basic, I kept them that way in the hope that they would work in both systems.

The grantite node gave me the option to add just a little bit to the colout to give it a non flat look.

First off in this one, the Poser version.

All the best.

Great Uncle LROG

All the best.

Great Uncle LROG

I have better lights for the Poser version, that's all.

All the best.

Great Uncle LROG

True but here is the result with a 617K texture. No postwork. Default render 2-3 sec.

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I like Noelle.  I like it because it's my daughter's name. :-)

Artificial shaders lock you in.
Artificial shaders look artificial.

Quote - So many known and loved and some of the very much missed names! I love it!

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You and LaurieA ... and our fine Finnish friend if she shows up. :-)

Quote - I have better lights for the Poser version, that's all.

All the best.

Great Uncle LROG

thanks Richard..it's hard to see any real difference. 

So I was adapting some poses and some prop clothing for Dawn. I found burried in my Poser 4 runtime, Xurge's Bodyjewels, which I think were originally made for V1 or maybe V2. Took a lot of tweeking but I got some of them to cover. Yeah, if these were real, they'd be held on with Spirit Gum and Imagination! Nudity flagged for just in case I haven't gotten the props positioned just right.

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Quote - To that end, we will not be releasing any genital products as part of what is sold for Dawn at HiveWire3D.com. This includes skin maps with genital details, morphs, or any items like that and will extend to what type of imagery will be allowed within our monthly and Hall of Fame galleries. We will leave that to other marketplaces to make available.

I'm pretty sure I know who will create them as well as one or two other mods/morphs.

Latexluv,

An awesome render, as far above anything else that has been shown that it is unimaginable. There are still a little red in the legs- so that the envious have something to talk about. That was very considerate of you!

Over on Deviantart ken1711 has posted a pic of a Bunnygirl suit that he is making/made for Dawn. 

Don't want to link as it will be sold at another store but if you search you should find it. 

The pic is titled 'Dawn in Bunny Suit'. 

My hopes of mass support grows :)

Quote - Over on Deviantart ken1711 has posted a pic of a Bunnygirl suit that he is making/made for Dawn. 

Don't want to link as it will be sold at another store but if you search you should find it. 

The pic is titled 'Dawn in Bunny Suit'. 

My hopes of mass support grows :)

Just had a look at it and yeah it looks very nice indeed. :)

Quote - Let's try this again.

Looking good Latexluv. :)

Well, I've been chided by my roommate for not using the Peacock Blue metal texture I made and once sold for Xurge's Body Jewels. So I've got to go rooting around inside of Poser 4 and try to find those textures and see if I can get them to render well in the newest version of Poser. Back then I was rendering in Poser 5, but everything was installed in Poser 4 and I was still using Poser 4 for what I called compositing, and then rendering in P5.

All the best.

Great Uncle LROG

All the best.

Great Uncle LROG

Quote - > Quote - > Quote - To measure is to know.

Just counted the uploads in the Gallery here.

Starting last monday:

Poser gallery uploads         : 282
DS/Studio  gallery uploads : 131

That's not a true indicator. I've never posted in my gallery here but I do buy here and also at other stores. I'm a ds user. To be honest over the last few years I've tended to hang out at DAZ. Primarily because it's been safer. Not everyone posts to galleries...

I just didn't post it but I was thinking it - go to Daz and those results will be reversed if not even less Poser gallery submissions. LOL. It just depends on where you go ;).

Laurie

Is the Daz3D galleries back open for member submissions?I've been waiting forever to restart uploading there too.

Not that I know of.  I just read this morning in the PC Forum that DAZ is going to be moving to a different Forum platform later this year...

All the best.

Great Uncle LROG

Looking good LROG. :)

It's just a V4 MR kit, shows how close things can be, just needs a bit of a tweak in the scale directions.

So, to those of you with lots of resource kits, you will just need to do some adaption.

All the best.

Graet Uncle LROG

cut/paste from LROG's post...

I LIKE this!!!  :-)  Exotic.  Nice eye makeup.

And the lips look great, too.

Quote - Here is a little something I am working on for Dawn going to give her some bite.. lol  I still got a ways to go as this is only part of what I have planned. :)

ohhhh I love those -thankies thankies thankies -us vampie peeps will appreciate those

Quote - Not that I know of.  I just read this morning in the PC Forum that DAZ is going to be moving to a different Forum platform later this year...

ok thanks -will be watching then:)I miss posting there too.

Quote - Oh noooo, I killed the thread.... kitteh blushes
Here's some hair I'm making for Dawn, would that help?  I donlt remember if I showed it here before or not.

Any new Dawn renders, peeps?
I'm modeling and UV mapping today... so nothing really exciting to see here.

I love this messy looking hair. Please don't make this a Cr2 hair product? I hate those. I love artists that offer both for sods like me needing to fit hair on many different characters. Conforming hair just won't play nice like that when trying to make it work on non conforming parents. Even if you parent it to the head for instance, long flowing Cr2 hair morphs die or become a nightmare to work with whereas nicely made and completely morpheable Hr2 hair works better.

I parent conforming hair to figures it wasn't made for all the time. I never have a problem with it. Morphs still work fine.

Laurie

Hi folks,

Thought I would share some updates since we have been ramping up the work on Dawn.

The baked reflections have been removed from the eye textures and the specular settings adjusted accordingly for both Poser and DAZ Studio.

Dawn does have a hip material zone in addition to others.

HiveWire 3D's products created in house will support both Poser and DS. Tutorials will be provided to convert from one program to the other. For the people that want to do this conversion, having at least Poser9 and DAZ Studio 4.5 is a requirement, if only for testing. We encourage content creators to make products work in both programs but understand it is a choice based on investment vs return. All options are being explored, including ones suggested in this thread, to help ease in the conversion process.

Lastly, we do read this forum. We are taking all of the critisim seriously, both good and bad,  and we understand frustrations, questions, choices, excitement, etc... We will use all of this information to improve our products, now and in the future.

Thank you for all of the feedback!

Poser users getting Studio is no problem, but the other way around costs quite a bit.

It may be in the interests of Studio users to pair up with Poser users to test things.

All the best.

Great Uncle LROG

Yep, its more difficult for Daz Studio users to get Poser...for sure. 

Quote - Artificial shaders lock you in.
Artificial shaders look artificial.

That makes really.... no sense to me at all.  

3D is artificial.  Everything we do is artificial. We can make things look as real as possible, we can calculate the math to get as realistic results as possible... but no matter what, all of it is only an artificial approximation of life.  A very fun, very versatile, very addictive approximation, but there it is! ;)

A shader is a shader is a shader.  All equally "artificial" but that's the way our art works.   And it gives us all the space we need for all the range of artistic abilities and styles-fantasy, comedy, toon, impressionistic, and so on- without being limited to only one definition. :)

Sorry for being less chatty...been having a lot of bad weather and just got power back after the typhoon.  Whew, hot tropical weather and no air conditioner..... 

Quote - Poser users getting Studio is no problem, but the other way around costs quite a bit.

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Great Uncle LROG

Just a reminder, not a jab......

Not everyone who uses Poser can run DS 4.x on their processors, and some refuse to install Daz software because of personal or technical issues.  Just because it's free doesn't mean it won't be a problem for everyone to automatically use it.

Agree, so, if they can, join up with a Studio user.

All the best.

Great Uncle LROG

A good point, and at that time it was quite expensive.

What I was really speaking about was Poser users getting it now. Lol.

The problem at the moment is that the HiveWire3D site isn't up yet, once it does then people can start asking for people to help them wit htheir projects.

All the best.

Great Uncle LROG

Eeeeek!!! Where did the post go that I replied to!!! LOL.

All the best.

Great Uncle LROG

Quote - Not that I know of.  I just read this morning in the PC Forum that DAZ is going to be moving to a different Forum platform later this year...

Again?

Dana

Oh the dreaded under hip split!!! Lol.

Nice work, and something that could have some nice add on textures!!!

All the best.

Great Uncle LROG

I tried my best, but couldn't come up with better texture!

No probs, I would sooner see products in an untextured state as well as a textured state.

The other thing I've tried to get makers to so is to have a render of material zones in different colours. That way users can see what type of extra texturing they can do.

All the best.

Great Uncle LROG

Quote - Rigged my first project today- not the slightest adjustment had to be made, neither in Daz nor Poser.  Including the area between the legs that always has been a problem..

As good as it may be, put a checkered pattern on those clothes and bend the limbs...I'm thinking just a run thru and a conversion with no adjustments is not enough. I'm betting you get BAD stretch at the front of the shoulders when the arm goes up. Ya can't tell with a white texture, but put a pattern on those clothes and it'll be obvious.

Laurie