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Subject: where are my Poser 2014 content files?


shante ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 12:14 AM · edited Fri, 10 January 2025 at 3:07 PM

Just migrated from Poser 7 to Poser Pro 2014.

I did the standard install with all the new and vintage contet.

I can see the content all right accessing it via the application pulling down the respective folders. However I can NOT find that Runtime folder with all the content in it via my hard drive, or my Mac Finder? I open the Poser Runtime folder and see it only has 153 megs in it. WAY less than the number of folders/files via the app.

Where does Poser 2014 install its downloaded content during the initial install?

The reason I ask is to make managing my glutted Poser Runtime folder content easier to find I have developed my own install and nomenclature method.

I always unzip files to a shadow Runtime folder on my dsktop so I can do custom installs to make finding the thousands of items currently in my old P7 Runtime folder easier to find. I want to start splitting newer items into the new version folder but not sure where to put it I am now at a bit of a conundrum.

Anyone?????


RorrKonn ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 2:36 AM

windows it's in documents

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bagginsbill ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 7:44 AM · edited Tue, 15 July 2014 at 7:45 AM

If you want to be organized, then the first thing you should know is you don't need to know where your main Poser runtime is, because you should not put anything in there.

You should be making external libraries (many of them) and install 3rd party content in those. Don't mix 3rd party stuff with your Poser stuff, for many many reasons. The least of which is you don't need to back up your main runtime because it installs that way and you didn't change it.

External runtimes (libraries) can and should be located where you want them and where you'll be able to find them quickly.

I make shortcuts in my explorer favorites for them and they're one click away.

 


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wolf359 ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 8:23 AM · edited Tue, 15 July 2014 at 8:26 AM

"windows it's in documents....................,,I make shortcuts in my explorer favorites for them and they're one click away."

Shante is using the Mac OS guys.

 

 

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bagginsbill ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 8:28 AM · edited Tue, 15 July 2014 at 8:29 AM

Ya OK but my advice still stands. Don't put 3rd party junk in the Poser main runtime. Make your own folders and know where they are because you made them.

If Finder can't do shortcuts, too bad. I stopped using my Mac a while ago because it died despite being $1800 and only two years old. So I can't check anymore.

Note:

The library UI shows you where the files and folders are, both as hover tips and as a details panel. If you don't know about the details panel, then read the manual because there is a lot of explanation there about the new library capabilities, and much suffering exists only because of lack of awareness.

 


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bagginsbill ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 8:34 AM

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bagginsbill ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 8:34 AM

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wolf359 ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 9:20 AM

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**"If Finder can't do shortcuts, too bad."**

Oh thats not an Issue

 I am sure that Shante will work out a system that best fits his work flow.



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shante ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 10:18 AM

to BB

It wasn't until I migrated...or more accurately JUMPED.....from Poser 7 into this new void of PoserPro2014, that I could even create other additional Runtime folders or external volumes to file content in.

I tried and a lot of people also tried figuring out how to create external Runtime Folders Poser 7 could rcognize w/o luck. If I can remind you here, that not long ago, a DAZ Installer on a Mac installed the content by default SOMEWHERE in the Runtime folder....not an external runtime but the Runtime folder for the Application by default. Oh, I take that back you were allowed the option of manually installing elsewhere but from within Poser 7 there was no reference or ability to access those files if not in the POSER 7 Runtime folder. If I am wrong about this now it sure won't surprise me but I think I do have this correct.

The first thing I did when I downloaded Poser Pro was install all the content that came with it which included some of the content from previous versions. The installer put the stuff SOMEWHERE by default and w/o option. I can see all that content from within Poser Pro but I can NOT rearrange the content to the Preffered way I work. So even if I can now direct Poser Pro to other Runtime Folders, or volumes and tombs or whatever, I still can't rearrange the Poser Content folder to my way of filing content or working.

The Poser7 Runtime I told PP2014 to recognize as an external runtime folder or volume, is seen but is HUGE. Since I did not delete poser 7 it is snuggled withing that application heirarchy It is the sum of collected content brought over from Poser 4.

Unless I migrate that stuff to yet another volume and direct PP2014 to recognize it, it takes forever scrolling around looking for stuff, even with my customized filing system.

A lot of the suff could be deleted but I have found even in my real life outside of Poser it isn't until I do throw something out that I suddenly find i need it and can no longer find it so I guess I have become a hoarder in both worlds.

As much as I do see your point here BB and agree, I still don't understand where the hell those files I downloaded and installed went after installation and why can't I go back in and rearrange them to my way of working. Oh, I have not installed anything into the Poser 2014 Runtime because I wasn't sure how prefering for the moment to instll them in the "external" P7 Runtime I designated for Poser 2014, but I need to streamline ALL my content and Runtimes here or I am going to go nuts scrolling on my tiny poser stage and menus looking for stuff ad nauseum. But most of all I just want to understand all this.

 

To Wolf:

Dude, good to see you are still in this community. I thought you fell off the grid. Thanks for voicing in here. Appreciated it. As you've read still having issues with Poser. and of course still kvetching about my inability to grasp what to many seem to be simple concepts. I hate my dead head and limited ability to understand. It is frustrating and depressing not to mention creatively stifling.But, I endeavor to perservere!


shante ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 10:23 AM

Quote - .

 

BB all the stuff being discussd in the screen captures believe it or not I do grasp and have pretty much grasped since Poser4. I see the content from theses tabes and menus in Poser. Where I cant seem the is when I open the Poser folder on my hard drive, open libraries and try finding the content folders in the Runtime Heirarchy there. The folders with content seen inside Poser are empty. SO my question is if I can see that content in my Poser7 Heiarchy the same way why does my Poser 2014 Runtime seem empty viewd and/or accessed the same way from without Poser?


shante ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 10:27 AM

Quote - "If Finder can't do shortcuts, too bad."

Oh thats not an Issue

 I am sure that Shante will work out a system that best fits his work flow.

 

Dude, these "shortcuts" you illustrate here are OS based Shortcuts via the finder. THey really have no bearing on my issue with not being able to see Runtime Content from WITHOUT Poser 2014. I should be able to open the Poser 2014 folder from within the Finder and open any folder to see the content therein. I CAN'T. THere is nothing there vial the finder that way.


bagginsbill ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 10:31 AM · edited Tue, 15 July 2014 at 10:45 AM

What is the path you're looking in?

What is the path the library says you should be looking in?

I don't know what to tell you - the library shows the path. Are you looking in the path it tells you to look in?

Clearly you're making assumptions that you're not communicating and are causing you to look other than where I'm telling you to look.

Don't assume you know where the content is based on older versions of Poser.


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wolf359 ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 10:48 AM · edited Tue, 15 July 2014 at 10:50 AM

"Dude, these "shortcuts" you illustrate here are OS based Shortcuts via the finder. THey really have no bearing on my issue with not being able to see Runtime Content from WITHOUT Poser 2014."

Oh i know Shante  I was replying to BB"s query as to wether the MAC finder can create shortcuts at all:
"If Finder can't do shortcuts, too bad. I stopped using my Mac..."

As to your issue..sorry I stopped needing  a new version of poser after version 6 since I can access any runtime any where from within  maxon C4D via a plugin so Im clueless about these new fangled version of the poser application itself.

Keep asking though.. there are alot of pro 2014 users here in the forums to help you figure this out.



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bagginsbill ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 10:53 AM · edited Tue, 15 July 2014 at 10:55 AM

Enough snark, wolf. I am helping, but shante is writing walls of text instead of reading the hover tip in the library that explicitly names the path of whatever he's looking at.

I don't know where he put his main runtime. It's an option to put them anywhere you want and thereafter the UI will show you where that was. 

There's no use me guessing, when moving the mouse (not even clicking - just move it) will give the answer.


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bagginsbill ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 10:54 AM

Quote -  from within Poser 7 there was no reference or ability to access those files if not in the POSER 7 Runtime folder. If I am wrong about this now it sure won't surprise me but I think I do have this correct.

Nope - external runtimes have been possible since Poser 6.

 

 


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bagginsbill ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 11:03 AM

Quote - The installer put the stuff SOMEWHERE by default and w/o option.

That's not true. It explicitly asked you four options about where you wanted the main runtime. Since you don't even remember the page, I didn't bother asking you which option you selected. Just use the library UI to find out where it is.


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wolf359 ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 11:06 AM

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**"SO my question is if I can see that content in my Poser7 Heiarchy the same way why does my Poser 2014 Runtime seem empty viewd and/or accessed the same way from without Poser?"**

Not to be presumptuous but why not just do a mac
"Spotlight" search(or whatever they call it now), for an item/figure you know to be your  new content folder and make  a note of the ACTUAL path/location.....

 

 

 Example  where is my koji?????



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shante ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 11:06 AM · edited Tue, 15 July 2014 at 11:14 AM

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> Quote - What is the path you're looking in? > > What is the path the library says you should be looking in? > > I don't know what to tell you - the library shows the path. Are you looking in the path it tells you to look in? > > Clearly you're making assumptions that you're not communicating and are causing you to look other than where I'm telling you to look. > > Don't assume you know where the content is based on older versions of Poser.

 

I am having problems commubicating this so I will just post some screen image:

Keep in mind I can't get a screen capture of the Poser 2014 stage with the pulld down tabs showing Runtime Content so you will have to take my word for it that all 2014 Runtime content is visible.

 

The first imsge is the PP2014 as seen in my finder as my HD content:

 

The second image is a collage of the Poser 7 Runtime Folder as seen in my finder of the Hard drive:

GO FUNKING FIGURE I CAN'T EVEN FIGURE OUT HOW TO ADD SOME SCREEN CAPTURES HERE TO ILLUSTRATE WHAT I AM HAVING PROBLEMS WITH!


wolf359 ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 11:07 AM · edited Tue, 15 July 2014 at 11:15 AM

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.......oh  there he is!!

BB is correct  you are  manually looking in the wrong location I suspect

let the OS find the location as i suggested



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shante ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 11:13 AM

So how in the hell can I make a smarter argument if I can't even figure out how the hell to link simple stupid multiple screen captures in this damn thread to show what I am seeing here!

You know what sorry I bothered everyone here and sorry I could not frelling express my self intelligently enough for you all to help with this tupid problem. Thanks to all of you for trying but I think I will just funk this whole thing and go back to frelling bed!


bagginsbill ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 11:17 AM

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I'm talking about this:

What is your library TELLING you?

Look at my shot.

The hover tip shows the path of any folder you point at.

The details panel shows the path of any file you select.


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wolf359 ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 11:19 AM · edited Tue, 15 July 2014 at 11:23 AM

LOL Dont give into frustration  so readily man!!

 

 

your stuff is there you already know it fom seeing it within poser look at the screencap BB just posted showing the ACTUAL location of that prop

or do a finder search for a specific item in the new content folder and the mac search results thingy wil give you its ACTUAL location/path as well

not that hard Carmen.



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bagginsbill ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 11:22 AM

Quote - BB all the stuff being discussd in the screen captures believe it or not I do grasp and have pretty much grasped since Poser4.

Clearly not. Instead of being a hothead and arguing, how about you actually read the page. You don't know what it says, otherwise you'd have found the text already telling you exactly where your content is.

If you would like me to simply skip your questions in future, I'm happy to do so.


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wolf359 ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 11:32 AM

"Clearly not. Instead of being a hothead and arguing, how about you actually read the page. You don't know what it says, otherwise you'd have found the text already telling you exactly where your content is.

If you would like me to simply skip your questions in future, I'm happy to do so."

@BB Just an aside I know Shante from the "real world" as we worked for the same graphics company years ago I know his personality so cut the old dog some slack as this techy stuff has always frustrated him

Shante; open poser and hold your mouse over any random item as BB did on his last screen cap

the true location it should be displayed

or search for item via the search function on you mac as i demoed either way make a note of that path/location

relax



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shante ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 11:34 AM

Quote - > Quote - BB all the stuff being discussd in the screen captures believe it or not I do grasp and have pretty much grasped since Poser4.

Clearly not. Instead of being a hothead and arguing, how about you actually read the page. You don't know what it says, otherwise you'd have found the text already telling you exactly where your content is.

If you would like me to simply skip your questions in future, I'm happy to do so.

THIS TAKES THE CAKE. YOU ACT INDIGNANT BECAUSE I AM HAVING PROBLEMS EXPLAINING MYSELF.

 

TO answer your questions the indicator from WITHIN POSER 2014 shows the path going back to the Poser 2014 RUNTIME foder. Everything is as it should be....as I have repeatedly tried articulating.

I repeat I can see ALL the content from Within Poser. That is NOT the problem.

What I can't see is ALL that same content looking for it via the finder (which to my obvious limited intelligence, and simple experience is the only way i can re-organize the Poser Pro 2014 Runtime folders to work the way I NEED them to work for the way I work.

If I could figure out how to post the damn screen captures I could show you better what I am talking about. But I apparently can't even figure that out.

I AM NOT arguing with you bill I am frustrated I am unable to make myself understood. You are not the problem and in fact trying patiently to be the solution but there is still a disjoint between what you are telling me and what I am trying to explain my problem is.


shante ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 11:44 AM

Quote - LOL Dont give into frustration  so readily man!!

 

 

your stuff is there you already know it fom seeing it within poser look at the screencap BB just posted showing the ACTUAL location of that prop

or do a finder search for a specific item in the new content folder and the mac search results thingy wil give you its ACTUAL location/path as well

not that hard Carmen.

 

I may be an old rigid headed old dog as you put but there ia till a lack of understanding, or at the very least explaining on my part, what the problem is.

 

I repeat I SEE the poser content from within Poser. I just can't edit it from there except delete folders and their content. I need to re-organize them and the only way that can be done is via the finder. Open the runtime folder rename and/or click and drag stuff from one Character folder to another or rename stuff Creature, ANIMAL, Clothing, Character, Robot. Etc. THa is the only way I can get through all my content more easily when trying to locate stuff. That has to be done from outside Poser so I can simplify the way I work in Poser. Your solutions so far just don't seem to really be addressing my need.

If I appear hot headed it is not with any of you because I really appreciate your attempt to help(As I have always appreciated that help here in the forums) but with myself for obviously NOT being able to better articulate my need.


bagginsbill ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 11:47 AM · edited Tue, 15 July 2014 at 11:48 AM

Quote - TO answer your questions the indicator from WITHIN POSER 2014 shows the path going back to the Poser 2014 RUNTIME foder.

Literally I want you to write the text, not describe it, write it. Your description is vague. 

It probably says 

/users/shared/Poser Pro 2014 Content/Runtime/Libraries/something ...

You're trying to tell me where it is but you don't know where it is and your description indicates that.

READ IT OUT LOUD

Please for the love of God look at my screen shot with the red part highlighted - look on yours - tell us what it says on yours. Literally, word for word, slash for slash.


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shante ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 12:00 PM · edited Tue, 15 July 2014 at 12:01 PM

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OK guy here it is:

/Users/Shared/PoserPro 2014 Content/Runtime/Libraries/Character/Additional Figures/Hands/Hand Left.crz

 

Cant figure out how to do a screen shot with my GRAB application for that because every time I try Poser window goes blank.

 

but again here is the view of the Runtime Folder via the Finder. The folders have not been able to more quickly calculate content size but they are pretty much all ZERO.

 


bagginsbill ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 12:01 PM · edited Tue, 15 July 2014 at 12:01 PM

NOTE: This is a cross post - I just noticed your last post. I'm reading it now.

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Quote - I need to re-organize them and the only way that can be done is via the finder.

Shante I know I'm writing a lot of stuff at you but you keep saying false things.

The Poser Pro 2014 library permits drag and drop to move individual items or entire folders from one place to another.

However - you are free to do it in Finder as well. But then you'll need to "refresh" the poser library, and I bet you didn't read how to do that either. You're going to get super frustrated if you don't learn how this library works.

Step 1 - open the details panel and read the details. You haven't even done that yet.


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bagginsbill ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 12:03 PM

Quote - OK guy here it is:

/Users/Shared/PoserPro 2014 Content/Runtime/Libraries/Character/Additional Figures/Hands/Hand Left.crz

Good - now you know where your content is.

Now I want you to pay real close attention to me - read the words out loud:

The folder you are showing me in finder is not /Users/Shared/PoserPro 2014 Content

It says Poser Pro 2014

Do you see the difference?

Say them out loud.

 


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Miss Nancy ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 12:08 PM

shante, it's best to ignore wolf - he never got beyond P6 AFAIK.  if you're looking for the big runtime that poser installed in OS X, it's in Users/Shared/Poser Pro 2014 Content/Runtime/ .  then you can add your other Runtimes to Users/Shared/Poser Pro 2014 Content/Downloads/ , or anywhere else you like, as poser will do "deep search".



bagginsbill ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 12:08 PM

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Look closely at the name.

You are in /applications, not /users/shared


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shante ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 12:11 PM · edited Tue, 15 July 2014 at 12:17 PM

Quote - > Quote - OK guy here it is:

/Users/Shared/PoserPro 2014 Content/Runtime/Libraries/Character/Additional Figures/Hands/Hand Left.crz

Good - now you know where your content is.

Now I want you to pay real close attention to me - read the words out loud:

The folder you are showing me in finder is not /Users/Shared/PoserPro 2014 Content

It says Poser Pro 2014

Do you see the difference?

Say them out loud.

 

I don't appreciate being accused of lying man. Really wrong of you to imply it. There is a big differenc betwwen NOT GETTING IT snd saying falsities to someone trying to help.

I SEE THE DIFFERENCE. Now I have another question for you. When tracing a PATH like this is it the same on both Windows Machines and Macs using the Mac Finder?

Because if the to path notation methods are different (and to my understanding from having worked in both platforms, they are different. Yeah the applications is programmed to read those paths the same way but is my Mac finder thus programmed?

Look at my screen capture....is this the same as what I am seeing in the Poser DETAILS window?

 

JESUS HOLY CHRIST!

I finally got....something...I think.

So Poser installer installs 3 FREAKING Runtime folders. One seen in the finder inside the Poser Pro2014 Application folder and 2 more in USERS/Share folders.

What th hell for? Why som complicated and redundant a set-up.

So everytime i need to reconfigure this I need to go to the Shared Folder Within Users and do my Frixing Up there...right?


bagginsbill ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 12:17 PM · edited Tue, 15 July 2014 at 12:18 PM

Quote - I don't appreciate being accused of lying man

I didn't accuse you of lying. I was explaining something very subtle - you have a picture in your mind about what you're doing that is different from what you're actually doing.

You are looking in the wrong folder.

Press the command key and the up arrow until Finder shows you your Macintosh HD.

Notice that you were in Applications.

Quote - is this the same as what I am seeing in the Poser DETAILS window?

No that's what I'm trying to tell you. What you showed is not the contents. But you think it is.

The name of the folder and the location of the folder is different.

The name is "PoserPro 2014 Content"

You are showing "Poser Pro 2014"

These are different names - can you not understand that?


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shante ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 12:21 PM · edited Tue, 15 July 2014 at 12:32 PM

Quote - > Quote - I don't appreciate being accused of lying man

I didn't accuse you of lying. I was explaining something very subtle - you have a picture in your mind about what you're doing that is different from what you're actually doing.

You are looking in the wrong folder.

Press the command key and the up arrow until Finder shows you your Macintosh HD.

Notice that you were in Applications.

Quote - is this the same as what I am seeing in the Poser DETAILS window?

No that's what I'm trying to tell you. What you showed is not the contents. But you think it is.

The name of the folder and the location of the folder is different.

The name is "PoserPro 2014 Content"

You are showing "Poser Pro 2014"

These are different names - can you not understand that?

 

Damn man yuo are like my Brother in Law in your thinking linear and streamlined and very detail oriented. Always wished i could be instead of organic and Fart-In-The-Wind-Me!  :(

Bill Do you have kids? Are you a teacher? Damn man you got a mountain of freaking patience. I appreciate it. And YES, I do SEE it now. Thanks.


shante ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 12:31 PM

Also it seems there is a bit of s cultural break here. False Things for me is Lies. I know over simplified but the way my rigid old world gray matter works...doesn't function....just works!

Barely getting me by it seems.

Been bombarded so much now I need a sedative so damn frustrated it took me so damn long to get through this I am literally shaking!

THanks....but not sure where to go from here.

It used to be one got a manual with Poser which figuratively SUCKED. Now there isn't even that. I am going to have to find a good book I can refer to for 2014 Pro. And like always by the time I come somewhat close to figuring some basic things out I will be forced to change again by technology and subsequent forced obsolescence. From a world where a pencil was a pencil, I seem to now live in a worldit  is no longer a pencil but rather an investment to a pencil manufacturing plant! Forced obsolescence sucks!


bagginsbill ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 12:36 PM · edited Tue, 15 July 2014 at 12:36 PM

Quote - False Things for me is Lies.

You believed what you were saying was the truth - so you were not lying and I didn't say so. You were not telling the truth and you might call that a lie. But the real problem was that you trusted your belief instead of what I was telling you.


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shante ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 12:36 PM

Quote - shante, it's best to ignore wolf - he never got beyond P6 AFAIK.  if you're looking for the big runtime that poser installed in OS X, it's in Users/Shared/Poser Pro 2014 Content/Runtime/ .  then you can add your other Runtimes to Users/Shared/Poser Pro 2014 Content/Downloads/ , or anywhere else you like, as poser will do "deep search".

 

So as I stated I have added an additional runtime folder In Poser 2014 indicating the Poser7 Runtime folder already being used on my system. I can add additional Runtimes to even that now in PP2014? Is it better to have more small runtime folders then for expediting searches of content in the middle of a render or bigger ones?

I just long for a sped up user interface.


shante ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 12:38 PM

Quote - > Quote - False Things for me is Lies.

You believed what you were saying was the truth - so you were not lying and I didn't say so. You were not telling the truth and you might call that a lie. But the real problem was that you trusted your belief instead of what I was telling you.

 

Yep just like my brother-in-law.

He will ask me what time I got up this morning and I will tell him instead what time I went to bed feeling somehow they re either the same or so closely related there should be no difference....in my mind!  LIke I said you are very patient. Thanks....very much appreciated...Bro-In-Law!  LOL


bagginsbill ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 12:41 PM · edited Tue, 15 July 2014 at 12:43 PM

It is better to have many smaller runtimes than one giant one.

You also have the option to only have some of them active. I have some libraries I rarely need except to demonstrate something or test it. For example, my Antonia content is in its own runtime library called Antonia. I do not have this loaded in Poser except when I need it. I add and remove libraries as I need, and I only have 7 or 8 loaded at a time, even though I have over 50 runtimes.

Poser only searches those that are currently connected. You can add and remove them at any time.

To remove one, in the library where it says Show Library: , the word is a pulldown button. Click it, choose a library. Now you're only looking at that one. A new button appears on the right that removes that runtime library from the program memory.

Don't worry - the files are still there and can be added back any time.

You cannot unload the main content library.


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shante ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 12:48 PM

So I guess my next question is WHY are SO MANY RUNTIMES FOLDER nstalled at Install and why is only Poser Pro 2014 doing this? Poser 7 didn't?


Miss Nancy ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 1:14 PM · edited Tue, 15 July 2014 at 1:19 PM

poser 7 violated OS X canons regarding use of applications folder.   PP2014 installer was adjusted to obey them; in effect they cleaned it up.  each of three runtimes has its purpose, but give it time.  it takes patience to adjust to changes, and you'll enjoy poser more as you ease into it.

I found it's easier to have hundreds of runtimes with distinctive names, rather than trying to lump 100GB of items into one runtime.



bagginsbill ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 1:19 PM

In the old days, Poser mixed stuff that makes the code work with content you use in a render. They needed to separate those.

But the code stuff remained behind in what you call an empty runtime. It's not empty - it's full of Poser application internal files that make Poser work. However, you attempted to load content in it and you added the empty content folders. They don't belong there and on my copy they are not there.

Just because there is a folder called "runtime" doesn't make it content.

The third one has always been there and is for downloads, but I don't use that because of where it is. I removed it from my system.


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bagginsbill ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 1:25 PM · edited Tue, 15 July 2014 at 1:30 PM

Quote - why is only Poser Pro 2014 doing this? Poser 7 didn't?

only Poser Pro 2014? It's not only Poser pro 2014.

 

Poser Debut, Poser 8, Poser 9, Poser 10, Poser Pro 2010, Poser Pro 2012, and Poser Pro 2014 all do this.

Why did you think that the world stopped at Poser 7 and started again at 2014? 

We've all been talking about these features for years.

As for why Poser 7 didn't, it's because Microsoft forced the issue with Windows Vista and UAC. Suddenly it became difficult to put content in your application folders. The world is full of evil people, and they make evil content. Putting those things in your protected application area is bad. It lets them do evil things.

People who are not evil (such as yourself) have trouble understanding the things that evil people do. Engineers have to come up with solutions to stop the evil people. Unfortunately this annoys and mystifies the good people like yourself, who cannot imagine why such things are necessary and see them as bogus complications made up by idiots.

I assure you, the developers are not idiots, and they didn't want to do this.

You are not the first who demanded an explanation, and you won't be the last.


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shante ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 1:56 PM

I know it didn't stop and end art Poser 7.

But, I jumped from Poser 4 directly inot Poser 7. Then after 3 years r so, I just jumped into Poser Pro 2014.

I am sure these issues have been roiling the waters in the community but it is like this sir. If I speak only English and a little French and enter suddenly a world where everyone or most everyone only speak a bit of English still but have all adpted French as their new language and are very well versed in it, Nothing will make much sense to me. I see it as useless information and to avoid confusing my already messed up head, I simply walk away. I am sure I saw some of the discussed issues, but since Poser 8, 9, 10, 2014 until just last week or so were FOREIGN entities, I didn't bother figuring out what it was all about.....UNtil Now of course. I feel like a babe in the woods woth out my pacifier and having lst my Dities feel even more humiliated and confused. Thank God there folks like you here to steer my ole Ass straight.

A-gain:

THANKS!

 

Now, is there a decent book out there I can toss some money at that is better written than the older Poser manuals that can give me some clue what I am doing so I can at the very least, ask my questions more intelligently!   :)


Miss Nancy ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 4:47 PM

deecey rewrote poser manual.  give it a try: you may see it's alot better than the old ones.



shante ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 4:50 PM

do you know where it can be found or what it'll cost me?


bagginsbill ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 5:27 PM

The manual is in your help menu. It's a PDF file.

It gets installed by one of the content installers - I can't remember which.


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Miss Nancy ( ) posted Tue, 15 July 2014 at 6:27 PM

in OS X: Applications/Poser Pro 2014/Poser Pro Reference Manual.pdf (48.2 MB).

 



wolf359 ( ) posted Wed, 16 July 2014 at 12:52 PM · edited Wed, 16 July 2014 at 12:52 PM

Glad you got it worked out carm

now get your reorganizing done and do some renders with that new beastie



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