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Subject: Graphics Cards and DAZ|Studio 4.12


contedesfees ( ) posted Tue, 01 October 2019 at 11:01 PM · edited Fri, 29 November 2024 at 5:15 PM

I'm considering buying a new graphics card. I use Poser Pro 2019, but I'm thinking seriously of switching to DAZ|Studio. Which would be the better choice: NVIDIA GTX 1050 or Radeon RX 560? I know nothing about graphics cards. From the little I do understand of it, I presume that DAZ|Studio will use the CPU to render; apparently neither of these cards appear adequate to the task. But those are the only cards I can afford. Thanks to all helpful replies.


Deacon215 ( ) posted Tue, 01 October 2019 at 11:12 PM

The nVidia card will let you use iray.


SilentWinter ( ) posted Wed, 02 October 2019 at 12:25 AM

^If the iray scene fits into the graphics card's VRAM, then it can be used to render (and will be faster than CPU-only). But if the scene is larger than the VRAM, it will be rendered by CPU-only regardless. Looks like the 1050 has 2GB of RAM, which would do for a simple scene with a single clothed figure and simple background but perhaps not for a complex scene.

This site gives a comparison:

http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-RX-560-vs-GeForce-GTX-1050

There's not much in it but the GTX 1050 looks to be slightly better to me.

If you're also using it for gaming, this site shows some gaming stats (again 1050 just takes the lead)

https://www.techspot.com/review/1430-radeon-rx-560-vs-geforce-gtx-1050/



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contedesfees ( ) posted Wed, 02 October 2019 at 12:32 AM

@Deacon215, @SilentWinter, Thanks very much indeed. I suspected that nVidia GTX was wiser choice for Iray rendering. Just intuition, I certainly wasn't very sure. Graphics cards are a mystery to me.


prixat ( ) posted Wed, 02 October 2019 at 10:47 AM

There should be some 1050ti cards with 4GB out there. That would be a workable minimum for Iray. (I still use a 750ti (with 4GB), which isn't fast but it's a huge step up from CPU on it's own.)

nVidia are keeping Iray to themselves, they will never licence Radeons to run Iray!

regards
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contedesfees ( ) posted Wed, 02 October 2019 at 11:00 AM

Thanks prixat, I think nVidia is the way to go. I appreciate the help.


felldude ( ) posted Thu, 10 October 2019 at 12:23 AM · edited Thu, 10 October 2019 at 12:24 AM

If your spending the money on a card just to render I would think about getting an RTX card vs a GTX Card.

An RTX card uses the new Turing engine, which will be required to run the latest IRAY products that are not available to the general public. (Yet) I have first hand knowledge of this as I waited 3 months to be approved for an AI based image painting from NVIDIA and I can't run it.

Also AMD and NVIDIA will be using the same ray tracing engine (Look up the story behind Vulkan) so eventually Daz should support AMD cards...in theory

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contedesfees ( ) posted Thu, 10 October 2019 at 7:49 AM

@felldude, thanks for yours. Frankly, the new RTX cards are completely beyond my means. From the little I've gathered, DAZ Studio 4.12 will make the most of RTX, but I simply cannot afford them. Thanks again. (In my next lifetime, I'm gong to be rich.)


felldude ( ) posted Thu, 10 October 2019 at 6:44 PM

contedesfees posted at 6:42PM Thu, 10 October 2019 - #4366593

@felldude, thanks for yours. Frankly, the new RTX cards are completely beyond my means. From the little I've gathered, DAZ Studio 4.12 will make the most of RTX, but I simply cannot afford them. Thanks again. (In my next lifetime, I'm gong to be rich.)

I understand as I made a similar decision, which wasn't the $400 for the GeForce RTX 2060 it was the upgrading everything else. Now if I where rich I would get the 48GB Qaudro RTX for $9000 lol

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arrow1 ( ) posted Fri, 11 October 2019 at 4:21 PM

How does the Nvidia Quatro P4000 8 Gig Video Card go for rendering in DAZ Studio? Does it assist with faster rendering? Cheers

Custom built computer 128 gigs RAM,4 Terabyte hard drive, NVIDIA RTX 4060 TI 16 GIG Gig,12 TH Generation Intel i9, Dual LG Screens, 0/S Windows 11, networked to a Special 12th Generation intel I9, RTX 3060 12 Gig, Windows 11,64 gigs RAM, Dual Phillips Screens, 2 Terabyte SSD Hard Drive plus 1 Terabyte Hard Drive,3rd Computer intel i7,128 gigs ram, Graphics Card NVIDIA RTX 3060 Gig,1 Terabyte Hard Drive, OS Windows 11 64 Bit Dual Samsung Syncmaster 226bw Screens.Plus INFINITY Laptop 64 Bit,64 gigs RAM.Intel i9 chip.Windows 11 Pro and Ultimate. 4 x 2 Terrabyte Hard Drives and 2 x 2 Terrabyte external USB Hard drives. All Posers from 4 to Poser 2010 and 2012, 2014. Poser 11 and 12, 13, Hexagon 2.5 64 Bit, Carrara 8.5 Pro 64 bit, Adobe Photoshop CS4 Creative Production Suite. Adobe Photoshop CC 2024, Vue 10 and 10.5 Infinite Vue 11 14.5 Infinite plus Vue 15 and 16 Infinite, Vue 2023 and 2024, Plant Catologue, DAZ Studio 4.23, iClone 7 with 3DXchange and Character Creator 3, Nikon D3 Camera with several lenses.  Nikon Z 6 ii and Z5. 180-600mm lens, 24-70 mm lens with adapter.Just added 2x 2 Terrabyte portable hard drives.


Razor42 ( ) posted Fri, 11 October 2019 at 5:51 PM

It will definitely assist in faster rendering with it's 1800 or so Cuda cores (Than your listed card) and 8 gb isnt to bad for most scenes. One thing to consider is that it is more than double the price of the more powerful and more recent RTX2060.So value for price isn't so great, if being used mainly for Iray rendering.

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-2060-vs-Nvidia-Quadro-P4000/4034vsm250990



arrow1 ( ) posted Sat, 12 October 2019 at 4:07 PM

Would the RTX-2060 or NVidia Quadro P4000 be the best for all round rendering in DAZ Studio,Poser Pro 11.2,Adobe Photoshop 2019,Vue Infinite 2016,Carrara 8.5, Bryce 7.1, and Hexagon 2.5? Cheers

Custom built computer 128 gigs RAM,4 Terabyte hard drive, NVIDIA RTX 4060 TI 16 GIG Gig,12 TH Generation Intel i9, Dual LG Screens, 0/S Windows 11, networked to a Special 12th Generation intel I9, RTX 3060 12 Gig, Windows 11,64 gigs RAM, Dual Phillips Screens, 2 Terabyte SSD Hard Drive plus 1 Terabyte Hard Drive,3rd Computer intel i7,128 gigs ram, Graphics Card NVIDIA RTX 3060 Gig,1 Terabyte Hard Drive, OS Windows 11 64 Bit Dual Samsung Syncmaster 226bw Screens.Plus INFINITY Laptop 64 Bit,64 gigs RAM.Intel i9 chip.Windows 11 Pro and Ultimate. 4 x 2 Terrabyte Hard Drives and 2 x 2 Terrabyte external USB Hard drives. All Posers from 4 to Poser 2010 and 2012, 2014. Poser 11 and 12, 13, Hexagon 2.5 64 Bit, Carrara 8.5 Pro 64 bit, Adobe Photoshop CS4 Creative Production Suite. Adobe Photoshop CC 2024, Vue 10 and 10.5 Infinite Vue 11 14.5 Infinite plus Vue 15 and 16 Infinite, Vue 2023 and 2024, Plant Catologue, DAZ Studio 4.23, iClone 7 with 3DXchange and Character Creator 3, Nikon D3 Camera with several lenses.  Nikon Z 6 ii and Z5. 180-600mm lens, 24-70 mm lens with adapter.Just added 2x 2 Terrabyte portable hard drives.


jestmart ( ) posted Sat, 12 October 2019 at 8:23 PM

If you are not running a workstation class computer and software (3DMax or Maya for example) don't waste money on a workstation class graphics card.


Razor42 ( ) posted Sun, 13 October 2019 at 3:25 AM

I would go with the RTX, the value for grunt is better as jestmart says.



arrow1 ( ) posted Sun, 13 October 2019 at 1:56 PM

Many thanks for your replies.Before I buy any new graphic cards what I do not understand is my present card is a Quad core linked to two dual core computers for rendering .It seems to me that the RTX is a single core.Would not a Quad Core card be faster than a single core RTX for rendering in both DAZ Studio and Poser and Vue Ifinite 2016? Cheers

Custom built computer 128 gigs RAM,4 Terabyte hard drive, NVIDIA RTX 4060 TI 16 GIG Gig,12 TH Generation Intel i9, Dual LG Screens, 0/S Windows 11, networked to a Special 12th Generation intel I9, RTX 3060 12 Gig, Windows 11,64 gigs RAM, Dual Phillips Screens, 2 Terabyte SSD Hard Drive plus 1 Terabyte Hard Drive,3rd Computer intel i7,128 gigs ram, Graphics Card NVIDIA RTX 3060 Gig,1 Terabyte Hard Drive, OS Windows 11 64 Bit Dual Samsung Syncmaster 226bw Screens.Plus INFINITY Laptop 64 Bit,64 gigs RAM.Intel i9 chip.Windows 11 Pro and Ultimate. 4 x 2 Terrabyte Hard Drives and 2 x 2 Terrabyte external USB Hard drives. All Posers from 4 to Poser 2010 and 2012, 2014. Poser 11 and 12, 13, Hexagon 2.5 64 Bit, Carrara 8.5 Pro 64 bit, Adobe Photoshop CS4 Creative Production Suite. Adobe Photoshop CC 2024, Vue 10 and 10.5 Infinite Vue 11 14.5 Infinite plus Vue 15 and 16 Infinite, Vue 2023 and 2024, Plant Catologue, DAZ Studio 4.23, iClone 7 with 3DXchange and Character Creator 3, Nikon D3 Camera with several lenses.  Nikon Z 6 ii and Z5. 180-600mm lens, 24-70 mm lens with adapter.Just added 2x 2 Terrabyte portable hard drives.


RHaseltine ( ) posted Sun, 13 October 2019 at 2:20 PM

arrow1 posted at 2:18PM Sun, 13 October 2019 - #4366975

Many thanks for your replies.Before I buy any new graphic cards what I do not understand is my present card is a Quad core linked to two dual core computers for rendering .It seems to me that the RTX is a single core.Would not a Quad Core card be faster than a single core RTX for rendering in both DAZ Studio and Poser and Vue Ifinite 2016? Cheers

I'm not sure what you mean here - all modern GPUs have far more than two cores. The latest nVidia cards have multiples of several specialist cores each - RTX is one of those, used for ray-tracing (which is why it is, potentially and depending n the scene, a big help for Iray).


arrow1 ( ) posted Sun, 13 October 2019 at 3:45 PM

Thanks again for your reply.So I am hearing that I will see a vast improvement in rendering times,especially in Iray over my present Nvidia K220 and the Nvidia P4000 with a RTX Card? Cheers

Custom built computer 128 gigs RAM,4 Terabyte hard drive, NVIDIA RTX 4060 TI 16 GIG Gig,12 TH Generation Intel i9, Dual LG Screens, 0/S Windows 11, networked to a Special 12th Generation intel I9, RTX 3060 12 Gig, Windows 11,64 gigs RAM, Dual Phillips Screens, 2 Terabyte SSD Hard Drive plus 1 Terabyte Hard Drive,3rd Computer intel i7,128 gigs ram, Graphics Card NVIDIA RTX 3060 Gig,1 Terabyte Hard Drive, OS Windows 11 64 Bit Dual Samsung Syncmaster 226bw Screens.Plus INFINITY Laptop 64 Bit,64 gigs RAM.Intel i9 chip.Windows 11 Pro and Ultimate. 4 x 2 Terrabyte Hard Drives and 2 x 2 Terrabyte external USB Hard drives. All Posers from 4 to Poser 2010 and 2012, 2014. Poser 11 and 12, 13, Hexagon 2.5 64 Bit, Carrara 8.5 Pro 64 bit, Adobe Photoshop CS4 Creative Production Suite. Adobe Photoshop CC 2024, Vue 10 and 10.5 Infinite Vue 11 14.5 Infinite plus Vue 15 and 16 Infinite, Vue 2023 and 2024, Plant Catologue, DAZ Studio 4.23, iClone 7 with 3DXchange and Character Creator 3, Nikon D3 Camera with several lenses.  Nikon Z 6 ii and Z5. 180-600mm lens, 24-70 mm lens with adapter.Just added 2x 2 Terrabyte portable hard drives.


prixat ( ) posted Mon, 14 October 2019 at 8:56 AM

I don't think Poser 11 has added support for RTX graphics cards... yet.

regards
prixat


felldude ( ) posted Mon, 14 October 2019 at 11:24 AM

arrow1 posted at 11:21AM Mon, 14 October 2019 - #4366998

Thanks again for your reply.So I am hearing that I will see a vast improvement in rendering times,especially in Iray over my present Nvidia K220 and the Nvidia P4000 with a RTX Card? Cheers

From: https://devblogs.nvidia.com/nvidia-turing-architecture-in-depth/

The GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Founders Edition GPU delivers the following exceptional computational performance:

▶ 14.2 TFLOPS1 of peak single precision (FP32) performance

▶ 28.5 TFLOPS1 of peak half precision (FP16) performance

▶ 14.2 TIPS1 concurrent with FP, through independent integer execution units

▶ 113.8 Tensor TFLOPS1,2

▶ 10 Giga Rays/sec

▶ 78 Tera RTX-OPS

The Quadro RTX 6000 provides superior computational performance designed for professional workflows:

▶ 16.3 TFLOPS1 of peak single precision (FP32) performance

▶ 32.6 TFLOPS1 of peak half precision (FP16) performance

▶ 16.3 TIPS1 concurrent with FP, through independent integer execution units

▶ 130.5 Tensor TFLOPS1,2

▶ 10 Giga Rays/sec

▶ 84 Tera RTX-OPS

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Razor42 ( ) posted Mon, 14 October 2019 at 6:51 PM

felldude posted at 10:51AM Tue, 15 October 2019 - #4367070

arrow1 posted at 11:21AM Mon, 14 October 2019 - #4366998

Thanks again for your reply.So I am hearing that I will see a vast improvement in rendering times,especially in Iray over my present Nvidia K220 and the Nvidia P4000 with a RTX Card? Cheers

From: https://devblogs.nvidia.com/nvidia-turing-architecture-in-depth/

The GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Founders Edition GPU delivers the following exceptional computational performance:

▶ 14.2 TFLOPS1 of peak single precision (FP32) performance

▶ 28.5 TFLOPS1 of peak half precision (FP16) performance

▶ 14.2 TIPS1 concurrent with FP, through independent integer execution units

▶ 113.8 Tensor TFLOPS1,2

▶ 10 Giga Rays/sec

▶ 78 Tera RTX-OPS

The Quadro RTX 6000 provides superior computational performance designed for professional workflows:

▶ 16.3 TFLOPS1 of peak single precision (FP32) performance

▶ 32.6 TFLOPS1 of peak half precision (FP16) performance

▶ 16.3 TIPS1 concurrent with FP, through independent integer execution units

▶ 130.5 Tensor TFLOPS1,2

▶ 10 Giga Rays/sec

▶ 84 Tera RTX-OPS

And the price difference?



felldude ( ) posted Tue, 15 October 2019 at 2:01 AM

Razor42 posted at 1:57AM Tue, 15 October 2019 - #4367120

And the price difference?

rtx-2060 is $350 6GB of Ram

37 Tera RTX-OPS 5 Giga Rays/s

GeForce RTX 2080 Ti is $1,100 11 GB of Ram

78 Tera RTX-OPS 10 Giga Rays/sec

Quadro RTX 6000 is $4,000 24 GB of Ram 84 Tera RTX-OPS 10 Giga Rays/sec

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shedofjoy ( ) posted Wed, 13 November 2019 at 6:07 PM

I use poser and daz, and have a GTX970, it works fantastic in iray as it has 4gb vram (reported to only use 3gb) but has 1664 cuda cores, surely something like this or a GTX 980 which has 2048 cores would suit better than a GTX 1050 with a max of either 768 cores except on the 2gb version which has 640 cores. yes I know the RTX and Quadro are better but the person I the thread did say money is an issue so why bring them up?

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RHaseltine ( ) posted Thu, 14 November 2019 at 3:52 PM

Cores are not comparable between generations. However 4GB is quite limiting with a lot of modern content.


shedofjoy ( ) posted Sat, 16 November 2019 at 9:09 PM

more GB's means more £'s and most of us have only a finite amount so finding a card with more GB's for less £'s is pretty much impossible.

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