Hello

I have a rather large library...but, I need a good, details, realistic pale skin texture. Not a “too smooth” texture. But one that has the faint tracing of veins, good actual skin texture, etc.

I have loads that the thumbnails look good…then in render, with a library of lights and homemade lights all look...fake. Too smooth as if they were ran through an instagram filter, etc. (I also have tried tiddling the gamma, different sss settings, etc)

SO, with that said.

What would YOU, the reader, suggest as a good pale texture?

I've had the same struggle, trying loads of skin textures that seemed promising but were either not pale enough or washed out.  Maybe one of RawArts albino characters?

Instead of looking for a good pale perfect texture consider looking for the things that you want to see in the final render like the faint tracing of veins, https://www.daz3d.com/add-some-veins-hd-for-genesis-9, https://www.daz3d.com/add-some-veins-hd-for-genesis-8, https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/117529/lie-eye-veins-and-bleeds-for-genesis-3-female, https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/148631/twizted-skin-details-for-genesis-81, https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/119145/twizted-anatomical-details-skin-mr, https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/125214/freckled-skin-g8-mr, https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/162188/freckled-skin-mr-for-genesis-9, https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/114308/skintastic-skin-mr-freckles-g3f, https://www.daz3d.com/skin-detailer-for-genesis-9-merchant-resource, look for moles, pimples, blemishes, etc. You can also use Photoshop brushes to help you achieve the effects you want.

GGreen posted at 5:43 PM Tue, 9 July 2024 - #4487219

Instead of looking for a good pale perfect texture consider looking for the things that you want to see in the final render like the faint tracing of veins, https://www.daz3d.com/add-some-veins-hd-for-genesis-9, https://www.daz3d.com/add-some-veins-hd-for-genesis-8, https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/117529/lie-eye-veins-and-bleeds-for-genesis-3-female, https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/148631/twizted-skin-details-for-genesis-81, https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/119145/twizted-anatomical-details-skin-mr, https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/125214/freckled-skin-g8-mr, https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/162188/freckled-skin-mr-for-genesis-9, https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/114308/skintastic-skin-mr-freckles-g3f, https://www.daz3d.com/skin-detailer-for-genesis-9-merchant-resource, look for moles, pimples, blemishes, etc. You can also use Photoshop brushes to help you achieve the effects you want.

I have vein sets, I have skin sets(pbr, skin manager,skin effects,etc) I have all sorts. But what I need is a good pale skin texture. Not one that is washed out, not one that is a tan that is lightened to make it pale. Pale skin has its own look to it. The vein overlays do not look like what I need. They do not look right as they are on overlay.
I have taken figures with "normal" skin tone and tried to change it vie post work and its still not what I need.
There is a translucency to true pale skin.

I know about all the lil programs, scripts, sets out there. That is not the issue.
SO, I am asking for good pale skin characters that have good texture, not overly airbrushed. Good "flaws", good wrinkles etc that look like...pale skin.



OH and I forgot I have even tried layering geoshells to get the translucency. Layering different maps with varied transparencies.

Type Pale Skin in the search boxes and see if you see anything that suits you. Everyone has a different opinion about what a "good pale skin is"

go with Elanor (CCrow) and settings in case this is what you are looking for:

.. and double check with texture compression (render settings) to compete 'washed out' render results

beta:

Thank you rto3d.

GGreen posted at 7:11 PM Tue, 9 July 2024 - #4487223

Type Pale Skin in the search boxes and see if you see anything that suits you. Everyone has a different opinion about what a "good pale skin is"

I...did that. Its exactly why I am asking for opinions of people that may have actual experience with different pale skin packages. As simply looking at a promo shot doesnt tell me the quality. Those that use the skin packages can give an opinion based on varied lightings, render settings, etc.

rto3d posted at 11:20 PM Tue, 9 July 2024 - #4487228

go with Elanor (CCrow) and settings in case this is what you are looking for:

I should have stated(its my fault for not doing so) Its for gen8. I have plenty of stuff for g9 but her underarms drive me nuts.

I have a few of the cynderblue, I have a couple of Alfan, etc. They have great details. But not what I am looking for.
Washing a character out, is not the same as pale skin.

Just like you cant take a Caucasians texture and simply darken it to make it ethnic.

I have twiddled with gamma to make it appear lighter. I have twiddled with render settings. Its not doing what I need.

I am very familiar with what pale skin looks like. I am dang near ghost white. Simply washing it out, doesnt work.
There is a particular luminance, translucency that comes with it.

I am utterly confused why this seems so controversial.

I mean, not being funny, but I did look in several marketplaces. I have googled. I have tried different render settings. I am not looking for render settings. I am looking for an actual texture that is pale. I have even tried the Asian textures, as they tend to be a particular type of pale.

Simply looking at a promo shot doesnt give you the context if the texture works in "real world" if you will. That was why I am asking for peoples opinion as to their actual experience with different packages.
Its not a hard concept.
As I cant "test drive" a package, its logical to ask people who may HAVE used various texture packages how well they work, how they look, etc.

Subsurface Scatter will determine the translucent appearance that you are trying to achieve.  The measurable distance should be increased, but too high a value will increase the luminance of the skin texture, making it appear unrealistically waxy.  Transmittance color and SSS color will need to be adjusted as well.

I think it would help us a great deal if you provided an image of what you are trying to achieve.

Some asian skin reminds me of the rice paper flour so naturally I think of them as pale skinned.

Pale Skin models :  https://www.daz3d.com/ziggie-for-genesis-81-female  https://www.daz3d.com/sienna-hd-for-genesis-8-female  https://www.daz3d.com/tempest-hd-for-genesis-8-female  https://www.daz3d.com/kizzy-hd-for-genesis-8-female  https://www.daz3d.com/antares-hair-for-genesis-9-8-and-81-male

Words for pale skin : ghostly, pallid, blanched, anemic, wax, fair  There is a shader for this - https://www.daz3d.com/ecvh0-s-iray-pale-skin-shader-for-genesis-8-female-s  https://www.daz3d.com/ecvh0-s-iray-pale-skin-shader-for-genesis-8-male-s

	https://www.daz3d.com/cj-aeon-for-genesis-9  https://www.daz3d.com/vo-xiao-hua-hair-for-genesis-9  https://www.daz3d.com/vyk-glacea-for-genesis-9  https://www.daz3d.com/death-9-hd  https://www.daz3d.com/cb-etta-hd-for-genesis-9  https://www.daz3d.com/vyk-marceline-for-genesis-9  https://www.daz3d.com/vyk-logan-for-genesis-81-female  https://www.daz3d.com/vyk-sedona-for-genesis-81-female  https://www.daz3d.com/rose-hd-and-expressions-for-genesis-8-female    https://www.daz3d.com/ludmila-hd-for-genesis-8-female  https://www.daz3d.com/april-for-genesis-8-female  https://www.daz3d.com/merchant-base-skin-essentials-for-genesis-3-female-s  https://www.daz3d.com/vyk-thana-for-genesis-8-female  (one of my favorites)  https://www.daz3d.com/raakel-hd-for-genesis-8-female  https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/138078/krashwerks-zoie-for-genesis-8-female  https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/128340/shaye-for-genesis-8-female  https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/140375/beatriz-for-genesis-8-female  https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/144691/bella-roja-for-genesis-8-female  https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/121671/cb-isla-g3f-g8  https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/152471/rainn-for-genesis-8-females  https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/102817/sav-marina-for-g2f  https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/163001/raven-for-genesis-8-females  https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/140031/mbm-bonnie-for-genesis-3-8-female  3DLoki has several here at Rendo  https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/126831/dtg-studios-becca-for-g8f

Sadly any skin shader for DAZ Studio is way too dark.
Go download "Venitian Sunrise HDRI" from the Poly Haven website for free and use it as a reference.
You can see a lot of people in the background in it. Set all render settings to default and adjust your skin shader to match those people's skin color.

Nevertrumper posted at 5:49 AM Thu, 11 July 2024 - #4487297

Sadly any skin shader for DAZ Studio is way too dark.
Go download "Venitian Sunrise HDRI" from the Poly Haven website for free and use it as a reference.
You can see a lot of people in the background in it. Set all render settings to default and adjust your skin shader to match those people's skin color.

Exactly.
They change the skin tone by using SSS settings or ramping up the gamma or just washing it out by lightening a darker texture.
That doesnt work.
Never mind so many of the Daz textures are so red!
(always have to go in and change those colours in the surface tab so they dont all look like they have some sort of sunburn)

Most merchant resources are just standard mid-range "beige" (as in the make up colour) and not actually taken from a pale skin model.

hborre posted at 7:38 PM Wed, 10 July 2024 - #4487283

Subsurface Scatter will determine the translucent appearance that you are trying to achieve.  The measurable distance should be increased, but too high a value will increase the luminance of the skin texture, making it appear unrealistically waxy.  Transmittance color and SSS color will need to be adjusted as well.

Aye. I have worked with it to try and get that particular translucence that pale skin has. Think of the peaches and cream, ginger-red head tone.
not a "painted vampire" skin. Not a "geisha white make up" skin. But that look of pale human flesh.

The one that has a faint, often blotchiness to it. A subtle luminance.

i say you take a skin texture that is pretty close and then modify it in photoshop. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM9amZJUIok

google skin tones palette and then use the video above to match the skin tone, load all the textures into the same photoshop file and then save each texture individually to avoid any slight variation that would result in a seemline along the texture. the nipples and the lips might require some extra color correction

Tasha 8 (pale version) may be too pallid for your brief.

Saiyaness made Tarni and Ceridwen.

In my opinion Ceridwen is a perfectly pale skin. But that is just my opinion. Love working with her. Tami has a redish tint or at least on my screen.

@DarkElegance please share some of the names of the characters that you have used that are pale skin, but still fall short of your expectations. If we have those characters we can compare them.

arifzhafir posted at 12:32 PM Fri, 12 July 2024 - #4487324

Tasha 8 (pale version) may be too pallid for your brief.

Saiyaness made Tarni and Ceridwen.

I think  Ceridwen may do it. I also like her options but again, the skin has a clay light look. I will have to try and work with the settings. But she looks good. I also like her face shape.
Thank you for that suggestion!