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sorry, but i always get a message of a wrong serial number when trying to buy the upgrade. I bought it when poser was still from metacreations.

Please send your serial number to service@curiouslabs.com and I will verify it. :)

price are ok. $179 for US and 199Eur ... It's ok, but 40Eur for shipping... it's a bad joke... Laurent, Paris

Laurent, either there must be an error with your order, or a mistake, because I just bought the upgrade and the shipping was 18.62 Euros for me (I live in Italy so my shipping should cost more than yours). I think you might probably have mistaken the shipping cost with the VAT cost (which was 45.70 for me). - Orio

All except Mac users, that is...

doh, I misread... it was the VAT... hehe

Mosca
we're waiting because they're still cooking our Spam.

As yet another post raises false hopes in the hearts of Mac users, only to dash them upon the rocks of despair yet again, the small but loyal and steadfast community of Mac-Posers slinks back into our burrows, muttering imprecations and stifling our sobs......** ;)

yeah, like any mac user is going to go for the Win-to-Mac upgrade. Like buying another $2000 computer is no big deal... I saw that Mac version to win upgrade path and I just groaned. -Adam

I bet some-one buys a Windows thingie an sells their G4 just to run P5 the day before the Mac version date is anounced. Wouldn't that be a bummer!

I'm sure the Mac OS X version of Poser 5 will be far more stable than the Win version when it comes out.

You know, I've been an Apple user since 1986, but they are really starting to piss me off. Last week I paid $49 for a tech support call wherein their professional opinion on my problem was "I must have done something wrong". they did not resolve the issue, but a solution did emerge on maxfixit.com. Then tonight, Apple kicks off their 10:20-Midnight OS 10.2 party, and I was there at 10:20 "sharp", per their website instructions, and I did not get in. There were easily 100 people still ahead of me in line to get in the store when the cambridge police started turning people away. I didn't get any freebies, nothing except my name in a raffle. If I win a new mac, I don't think I'll be as pissed, but Windows XP and a nice 2.53 GHz athlon are looking pretty sweet to me right now... -Adam

Wow, wonders never cease ... the Mac users continue to whine about a delayed release. What a shocker! God, it's like every freaking thread.

"I'm sure the Mac OS X version of Poser 5 will be far more stable than the Win version when it comes out."

Yet another ignorant, self-righteous comment from a Mac-Nazi. Need you more proof XVCoffee, Virtualsite, et. al.?

What an totally absurb and utter pile of horse crap. What decade are you living in?? The Windows NT kernal (NT4, 2000, XP) is rock solid. As stated in another post, I run an obscene amount of software on my Win2K-Pro machines, they run 24/7 and not once has an app pulled down the system (as I learned happens to Mac users). Applications RARELY crash and Poser 4 has NEVER crashed, let alone yanked the system down.

Wake up and smell the reality. We're not talking about Win95 kernels anymore. But I'd still take that over the MacOS of that era, hands down. Glad you guys finally got pre-emptive multi-tasking. Do they still ship them with single-button mice though? And is multi-mouse button FUNCTIONALITY built-in yet? For gods-sake I hope so, it is 2002 afer all.

Anyway, guess that's how SOME Mac users console themselves. You should be greatful the software is coming out on your platform at all, unlike the thousands of titles, hardware, and web apps, etc. that do not. As I've asked other Mac-Nazis ... HOW CAN YOU NOT be used to it by now??

Terminus: Get that 2.53 with Win2k or XP and you'll never look back again. You'll enjoy the total freedom of choice in software AND hardware that you've never had before.

What an totally absurb and utter pile of horse crap. What decade are you living in?? The Windows NT kernal (NT4, 2000, XP) is rock solid. I agree that that comment about the mac version being more stable is misguided and wishful thinking. I have a 2.2 GHz Dell Precision on my desk at work running Win 2000 pro, and I wouldn't say that it's noticably more or less stable than OS X. In the end, sloppily programmed applications and device drivers can bring down even the most stable OS, so each has a small amount of crash potential still. I've owned my OS X based G4 since April 12, and I've had only one full-system "gotta press reset" crash, while loading Return to Castle Wolfenstein. It didn't technically take down the kernel, but it did blank my screen making it impossible to get to the task manager. Some apps still crash, most notably Carrara, but as in Win2000 they are just tasks that die, the system lives on. You should be greatful the software is coming out on your platform at all, unlike the thousands of titles, hardware, and web apps, etc. that do not. As I've asked other Mac-Nazis ... HOW CAN YOU NOT be used to it by now?? Poser is a real exception. Software releases from all major graphics software companies ship simultaneously for Mac and Win. Mac users certainly aren't used to waiting for anything. The only software genre that tends to debut on Win or be Win-only are games. If I were a hardcore gamer, I'd buy a PC for sure, but I'm not, I'm a music producer. I realistically spend about 24-48 hours in a year playing computer games. Do they still ship them with single-button mice though? And is multi-mouse button FUNCTIONALITY built-in yet? Yes and Yes. No productive mac user I know has anything less than a 2-button mouse with clickable scroll wheel. In fact, most mac powerusers have one of the microsoft optical intellimice or it's Kensington equivalent. i couldn't live without my scroll wheel. -Adam

You probably should have got there at 10.20 AM instead, that is unless you were. Blame the Cambridge Police and never EVER ring expensive phone-up tech support. We all have our tech support horror stories, I doubt if many of those smeggers are actually involved in the product they are representing. Dont end up like the person I mentioned earlier in this thread.

Thanks for being a reasonable Mac user who actually has used modern Windows OS's. (Now I'm sorry I blasted you on that more recent thread on UNDO's, but hey, you drew first blood over there.)

"Poser is a real exception. Software releases from all major graphics software companies ship simultaneously for Mac and Win. Mac users certainly aren't used to waiting for anything. The only software genre that tends to debut on Win or be Win-only are games."

Yes, I agree, pretty much all the great stuff by Adobe (After Effects, Photoshop, Illustrator, etc.) comes out on both at the same time.

But I'm referring to the massive amount of quality software that just doesn't even come out for the Mac (or is significantly delayed). I'm not talking about games either, that's not even worth talking about as almost every Mac user knows ... don't get a Mac if you're a gamer.

Mimic did finally come out, but there are so many apps here in the Poser community that don't come out for the Mac (The Tailor, Poser2Bryce, most of the cool Python apps, etc.) Then when you start branching out into audio (as you mentioned), you've got: SoundForge, Powertracks Pro, etc., etc. 3D apps, are obviously dominated (less now thanks to OSX I imagine) by the Windows platform. But what a lot of people don't realize is, so is everything else .. from web apps to video editing (does FC Pro do realtime yet?) and even graphics apps.

Honestly, it all comes down to the freedom of choice. Windows allows you to have choices that you simply can't get with a Mac. The selection of software is breathtaking. And geez, don't get me started on hardware and the long history of proprietary methods at Apple, and the years without pre-emptive multi-tasking ... oy!

As far as the mice, the only thing is, don't you have to run third-party software to get the functionality? It's built-in (and has been for about 8 years) on the Windows platform. (I NEVER understood THAT about Apple ... that and having to drag an icon to eject a disc. Everybody has to admit both of those are pretty stupid.)

The big argument I (still) hear from Mac users is "they are so much easier to use." I've used Macs extensively (both in a tech-support job at NASA, and for web design as a sub-contractor) and I found them to be quite the opposite. There are just so many things in Windows (even Win95) that just allow you to perform circles around a Mac and be so much more effecient -- including, of course, 2/3-button functionality for the past 8 years. I don't know, maybe they've made serious strides in this area with OSX.

But the point is (and I swear I'm done after this) ... to each his own I imagine. But I just get tired of hearing Mac users slam the Windows platform (as if its a given), then gripe about software not being released (and I'm not just talking about P5) or being a delayed release.

-Tim

PS: It doesn't help that I'm a gamer, but even if I wasn't, there's just no way, especially with an NT-based kernal with an extremely user friendly interface.

timtoteo1

I am sorry you have issues.

Now can we get back to talking about poser. You know the program that was mac only.

I know you have issues with that statement sorry. They can make "real" money now and you can rule the world with your NT based kernel.

We humbly apologize for speaking. Oops I did it again.

I have to leave now and go back to working on my inferior pretend computer.

thank you for setting me straight.

Just cleaning up the stink of Mac-Nazis one thread at a time, that's all.

Why is it ok to insult the hell out of Windows-based machines all the time here on Rosity? Mac users do it constantly (seems to increase around the time their frustrations bubble-over as yet another cool app is not made for the Mac or is significantly delayed in its release.) As if it's a given ... again that "higher than thou" attitude that is downright laughable.

Actually its sad, because so many Mac users have deluded themselves into believing that their long waits for software releases -- or no software at all, as in many cases -- are somehow justified because "the Mac is more stable and easier to use, and software magically just works better." What a sad, sad joke.

I could care less if you say, I love the way Mac does X, or isnt Y great about the Mac. Good for you, Im glad your happy. Its just when certain people start slamming PCs, who dont even have the faintest clue, and then whine, bitch, and moan that something is not coming out for the Mac. You made your platform choice, you think its gods-gift to computers, go live with it. If youre not already used to it (which is unbelievable), GET USED TO IT. (Now 4% of the computer market and dwindling, BTW.)

" You know the program that was mac only. I know you have issues with that statement sorry."

I don't have issues with it at all. Yes, sure it was Mac, only until they realized if they wanted to keep publishing it they had better make a Windows version, or go out of business. Besides, someone at some point had to create a decent 3D application for the Mac, now didn't they?

"They can make "real" money now and you can rule the world with your NT based kernel."

The main reason (AGAIN!)for the delay is because of Apple is being a pain in the ass (as usual). And it's not about "ruling the world" ... it's about personal freedom. It's about not being locked down into a few choices of hardware, software, and even operating systems. But I am also, admittedly, pointing out the obvious ... like ALL software manufacturers, CL wants to make a profit I'm sure.

-Tim

Tim, you were born a nasty, miserable little man, and so I know you just can't help it calling Mac users Nazis or anyone who has the nerve to question your choice of platform, especially since you ARE a bigshot rocket scientist who thinks he's got the biggest IQ and pecker on this planet. It's just the way you are, and I truly feel sorry for you and anyone who has the absolute misfortune of crossing your path or who can call you a blood relative. Go ahead, you can flame away as much as you can and want while I enjoy the stability of my UNIX-based Mac and pity my coworkers who have to endure yet another technical support phonecall to Redmond or another runaround from their IT person.

Macs-shmacs Windows-shmindows.

T1, (may I call you that?), you are the only individual who takes the platform debate seriously.
The last serious discussion into the two systems broke down when SJ accused BG of putting too much butter on his scones.

That isnt the main problem nor is it your baiting the staff of Curious Labs about imagined faults in of all things the PDF of the Poser 5 manual, or in Poser 5. (Do you know where you are?).
Persistent and unprovoked personal attacks actually violate the TOS. The admins are being very patient, so are CL, but this cant last.

This is a thread where an important announcement has been made and does not require your input.

XV: You can call me whatever you want, apparently, as seen in the post before yours. Sheesh, talk about your personal attacks!
*"you were born a nasty, miserable little man ..."

"...since you ARE a bigshot rocket scientist who thinks he's got the biggest IQ and pecker on this planet ..."

"I truly feel sorry for you and anyone who has the absolute misfortune of crossing your path or who can call you a blood relative"*

But THAT's apparently okay ... amazing how hyprocritical you guys are, and talk about violating the TOS!! That's a prime candidate for being banned if I ever saw one. I never attacked anyone personally in this thread, let alone personally insulted them and used profanity, as was done to me.

Thanks for proving me right, once again, rtamesis, how a lot of Mac people (not all, some of you are really cool) are hyper-defensive, hypocritical and immature.

VX, thanks for your input, but it was NEVER a PLATFORM war ... and I was just correcting Rtamesis INCORRRECT nonesense about the stability being better in the Mac release, for which another Mac user (who actually knows something about both platforms) totally agreed with me. -Tim

"That isnt the main problem nor is it your baiting the staff of Curious Labs about imagined faults in of all things the PDF of the Poser 5 manual, or in Poser 5. (Do you know where you are?)."

Apparently I'm in the hyprocrits-zone since the recent posts from you guys.

Ummmm, there were/are faults in the Poser 5 manual, and only by discussing them can they be corrected. Anthony of all people appreciate this kind of input, I'm sure. "Baiting the staff" ??? Give me a break.

I agree, that isn't the problem ... the problem is ... Because of ultra-defensive Mac users, I can't correct facts, AND defend CL personal from vicious attacks by Mac users whining and blaming them (CL) for the delayed release, without attracting very personal attacks from the Mac-Nazi's. Anyone reading the posts in their entirety can clearly see this.

-Tim

timoteo1 (Here he comes to save the day) saving the world from Macnazis and correcting the misinformation spread here by 4%ers. Oh thank you. Please see your post at 14. You call people nazis the are going to respond to it. It was a non personal attack till then. Again thank you for the "kind words" and keeping the forum safe for only you to enjoy. Issues man, you got way too many issues for a 95%er. It's a software program. Please breath deep and realx while the rest of us get back to talking about Poser.