Thanks, ockham... I swore I searched there and didn't find it. It works great BTW. You rock, gonna try some of your other scripts. best, e.d.

I checked out the picture. I thought it was nice, but didn't comment. Never thought it would raise such a storm. But then, this is a world-wide community isn't it? And the people out there who hate the United States, both within her borders and outside them, far outweigh those of us who love her. I've patiently read the screeds of those of you who have a problem with the United States and with President Bush in particular. I sit here, someone who considered himself a Democrat and a liberal up to the morning of September 11, 2001, and I can not believe the venom that is being spewed by Americans and foreigners alike. I'll be the first to admit that the US is far from right 100% of the time, and that our methods are not always the cleanest or most civil. My grandfather and seven of his brothers left their blood on the shores of Normandy, in Africa, in Italy and Germany. My peers and friends fought and died in Kuwait and Iraq not ten years ago. Why? Does anyone really think that they wanted to? What did we as a country or a people have to gain by fighting the Germans in WW II, or going to Kuwait during the Iraqi invasion? We went because we were asked to. We were begged to help fight the Germans. We were begged to fight the Iraqi's by the very people who saw fit to fly commerical aircraft into the World Trade Center buildings and kill over 3,000 innocent civilians. No, we are not always right. Vietnam was an enormous mistake. The way we treated our soliders, sailors, marines and airmen in the wake of Vietnam was an even more appaling mistake and a digrace to the memory of everyone who ever wore the uniform of this great country. We are not always right. But I think we deserve the benefit of the doubt. We, as a nation, give more money and food and aid than the entire United Nations combined. We are always willing to help in a fight, especially if it is a fight for freedom. We are hated and reviled. How do those three things add up? If we were colonialist, we'd rule the world. If we really hated Arabs and just wanted their oil, we'd take it. Who'd stop us? France? No one ever better compare the United States to Hitler when they are within arm's reach of me, because they will regret it. Too many of my family suffered and died, went to war and fought, were maimed and killed because of that egomaniacal little whacko. We may not always be right, we may in fact be dead wrong sometimes. But we are not bullies or despots. We are free, giving, caring strong people who believe that everyone should have those same rights. e.d.

I don't see how anybody could call that weak. We have seen a tiny glimpse of a very ambitious project, and that tiny glimpse is stunning. I love when I have seen. And I also have to say that I have loved all the things I have gotten from DAZ and they have shown a commitment to quality products and customer service (ok, it took a while, but I got a resolution to my problem). And they keep getting better... Victoria 1.0 vs Victoria 3.0, anyone? Personally, I can't wait. Even if the intial offering is a rendering engine that can only "tweak" pz3 files. Best, e.d.

Anton, thanks. I am working on the lighting and the posters ;-), you have no idea how it makes me feel to hear you say what I was thinking -- I own quite a bit of your stuff and I adore it. How do I get rid of that artoon look -- and what causes it? best, e.d.

I should have given some credit here... Bedroom by ziddy3d and vidandCGI Mikey by SeanG with Mike textures and Dylan textures by Handspan the bed, pillows and blanket are the morphable bed from Freestuff, off the top of my head I don't know who made it, but it is fantastic. e.d.

Is the Poser class totally newbie? I am very interested in taking it, but I think I am beyond the total newbie stage (though I still make newbie mistakes, of course). thanks, e.d.

Ok, bad choice of words... limitation. I was upset, not anymore... I really do understand. can we delete this? I have really been very happy with my experiences here and I don't want to give anyone the wrong impression, I was just frustrated and didn't know that their were hours of operation thanks, e.d.

Inded it was a PayPal issue. Had no idea there was such a restriction. Just out of curiosity, is that posted somewhere? thanks, e.d.

thanks for the hints, I was going to re-start the PC and try again, but had too many other things to do. I will try tonight and see if I can render at the res I want. best, e.d.

Thanks to all of you who took the time to respond and make some comments, they are all very appreciated. Guess I got spoiled over at Renderotica... my first post there garnered views and comments kinda quick ;-) I do need to be more active here if I'm looking for some input. sincerely... thanks. e.d.

Point taken tasquah; I know how they relate to each other only nebulously at this point myself. Thanks. e.d.

Thanks for the response and the compliments...you've got some nice images in your gallery as well. e.d.

Mark, I don't know... I do remember when I ran the install seeing something about installing for pro pack which had been detected... Any idea how to check on that? ED

I had that problem with the camera too... but that is not it. Thanks though ED

Raz, I don't have either of those characters, but I have garnered some experience with the Tailor on a complex project of my own... Be glad to point you in the right direction if you can provide more details on what is going wrong ED