Nope. I parent dress to figure. Scale figure in frame 1 (and making sure last frame has scaling set back to 100%), then I run the simulation. Have been doing it that way all the time, with tons of different clothes.

I am wondering though, in your example, is your figure's zscale 100% on frame 30?

The dress is not scaling with the figure, but is being stretched out as the figure grows into it. It wouldn't do this if it scaled with the figure.

I get your point, and I see what you are doing. However, I cannot see that the prop scales with the figure if it's parented. If it did, I would not get the results that I showed earlier in the post. 

Normally it would scale, but it seems that the cloth simulation "locks" the size of the prop when it starts it. Unless the -prop- has been given any scaling values by itself, which it hasn't.

Having to make the figure larger than normal in the target frame would be counter productive to me if I am just trying to get a tight or loose fit for the clothing. If you look at the picture I posted you can clearly see the effect.

And it doesn't look like you've run the simulation on your pictures. The point is to do the following to get different 'size' for the dress, tighter or looser.

1. Parent the dress to the figure.

2. Scale the figure up and down as you please on frame 1. (The dress should follow)

3. Make sure that the scale of the figure is set to default 100% on the target frame, (ie frame 30)

4. Clothify the prop in the clothroom, set the simulation length to at least the target frame.

5. Run the simulation. Different scale for the figure on frame 1 will give different draping results on frame 30. Perfect to scale down x and z if you want a tighter dress.

Quote - Frame 30. Body Scaled to 143%,, ZScaled to 158%. Dress parented to body. Notice the dress has scaled exactly with the body! This happens consistantly when I parent to the figure with ALL props as it is supposed to!  Otherwise you would always have to rescale each parented prop individually! This is why I don't parent dynamic clothing to the body until after the simulation is finished if I'm shrink wrapping.

Have you scaled it in frame 30?

You need to scale it on frame 1, and reset all values to 100% on frame 30 in order to get the effect you see on the picture I posted.

What have you done in the material room?

Note that the waistband stays the same way due to that it's constrained.

Anyways, there you go :)

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I think it depends on which part of the figure you parent it to because when I parent a dress to the "BODY" and then do scaling, the dress scales with the figure. 

Really? From my experience, parenting a dress to the body and scaling the figure down in the first frame will make the figure stretch into it, and if you scale it up it will make it looser. You need to make sure that the figure is 100% in size in the target frame. I can show you examples if you want, but try it for yourself, it's always worked for me.

Try it out, with the dress parented, and then the figure's body scaled down a little. 

If she is bigger than the normal V4, all you should have to do is to have V4 without morphs in the first frame, zeroed. Then you set your morphs on the target frame. That way the dress will be normal size, and the girl will 'grow' into the dress and stretch it out.

What did you try to do with the resizing technique, and how did you do it more specifically?

Quote - Doesn't parenting the prop to the figure before the simulation negate any benefits of shrinking or growing the figure because the prop will shrink or grow with the parent? I know I've had that happen to me before. I've always waited to parent the finished simulation to the figure.

No, it won't negate the effects. In fact it creates a very smooth stretch. When the cloth is "clothified" it seems to stay the size that it starts with on the first frame of the simulation, and is then forced to stretch if the figure grows, or to drape if the figure shrinks.

I have never tried shrinking the dress during the simulation, but I assume it would have a similar effect.  I think that shrinking the "people-figure" in the first frame, with the clothing parented is probably more reliable though, especially for clothing that has constrained groups and other detailed that depend on the shape of the figure. That's why I do it this way. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

The first frame is where you usually keep your figure in the zero pose. Then you have the figure in the final pose, with morphs, further in, 10-30 frames in. So, if you parent the clothing to the figure on frame 1, then scale down the figure to 90%, then the figure will "grow" into the clothing, when the figure reaches 100% in size in the final pose.

Quote - You can also shrink the dress during simulation to get a tighter fit.

This is how I always do it. I parent the cloth to the figure, then in the first frame I shrink the figure in the axis(es) I find necessary.