Hey, looks like we are figuring out lots of stuff and giving the physical shipment folks at least something to go on should they have difficulty.

I am not showing anything anymore. I don't like people getting upset even when they are half a world away. So I am nudity gunshy, anyhow I am a huge GI fan so I will be trying the medium setting etc a lot and I will repost when I have something.

HMM and when I tired to update my driver all H broke loose and my comptuer was dead. Now I am running well under the old driver from about 6 months ago. The driver recommendation is a good one though.

Tried loading P6 file into Vue - looks really good until the very end and then... Nothing. As far as computer failures go it is pretty mild, no sparks, no noises or crashes, just a peacefull nothingness Vue 5E still happily running with an empty default land and sky. As far as P6 goes for export to Vue, if you never rendered in Poser only use it as a means to a final Vue render, I would not get it, at least so far. I will hate, however, using Poser 6 to learn what it can do and then switching to the P5 interface to creat figures for Vue. Might drive me crazy. So far P6's Global Illumination is not anywhere near what I see with Vue 5. Of course I am no expert and I have no experience so we will see when more knowledgable and talented people get their hands on P6. I do long for the update though to go straight from one to the other. They bill it as a major feature on both sites so one would think they would not let us down or require us to purchase mover just for still figure imports.

thanks neftis keep em coming. I got one cooking now, as a poser newbie (have been rendering in Vue 5 for 6 of the 9 months of all this) I must say I love the quality slider. I know I should be playing with nodes and shaders and all but on the render side like in Vue - just click "Ultimate" just slide the thing to the right and go do something else for an hour.

This is from Poser 6 tech support. Can not belive they responded this evening, about 2 hour response time. I am not sure this would have solved the issue like (at least in my case) the firewall and virus protection shut down but I am posting it here in case it help any of you out there with similar issues. What if you shut off virus and firewall so that they did not run on start up. Then you restart and try the clean install again? Just a thought I troubleshoot a lot of computers but only basic stuff nothing like this. Really good luck. I am feeling for ya. "When Poser has been running successfully for a while, but then starts behaving badly, often it's because the preference files have become corrupted. This is annoying but easily fixed. Exit Poser and navigate to C:/Program Files/Curious Labs/Poser 5/Runtime/prefs and delete the Poser configuration file (Poser.ini), the LibraryPrefs.xml file and any Poser UI Prefs XML files that may be present. Leave the Default UI Prefs as Poser needs those. Second, if deleting your preferences doesn't cure the problem, it may be necessary to uninstall and reinstall Poser. When installing and running any Curious Labs software, we advise users to make sure no other programs are running and all startup item are disabled. This can be accomplished by using the msconfig utility. On Windows 98, Me and XP, you can see what applications are actually starting up with Windows by going to Start > Run > type "msconfig" > OK. This will start the System Configuration Utility. Click the "Startup" tab. Every checked item listed in the Startup Item list is running every time you start the system. Uncheck as many as possible, then disable nonessential services as follows. Click the "Services" tab, check the "Hide all Microsoft Services" checkbox and click "Disable All". Restart to boot into this "minimal" configuration. Uninstall and reinstall your software from the CD or downloaded installer file. Uninstalling will not remove either preference files or any custom or third-party content that you have installed to your Poser libraries, as only the items originally installed are removed. Immediately update the software with the latest updater (if applicable; check our website, www.curiouslabs.com/go/downloads/updates) Restart the system to return to the normal configuration. Launch the software and test its features to see if there has been any improvement to its behavior."

all defaults all I can handle tonight methinks

mine crashed when I clicked anything in the file menu, I did not try the other rooms while I was having the problem. The fix was just as you said you have already done though - I shut down the firewall and virus protection during installation and first run. I was sure to uninstall Poser 6 before re installing it. I don't konw if that might be a difference in what I did and what you have tried. I just re read your post was the firewall and virus protection off when you ran the program after the install? I think that was in important point because when I first ran it the XP firewall popped up and wanted access then it crashed when trying to save or whatever. Of course with it turned off no problem and no problem since. I think this is the deal - during that first run Poser calls home through the firewall to register. If the firewall is on - it asks for permission to allow but by then it might be too late and your install is corrupted. So be sure to shut it off during first run after reinstall - I hope this helps you probably already did that but that is as much as I know - I left my tech email to Curious labs and if they give me some ideas I will forward them to you since I might get the email sooner since I sent it a few hours ago good luck.

I am experimenting with Aavast the free one. I used to be able to download without turning it off now I need to shut it down before making downloads of poser content etc. Obviously now I need to shut it down for installs too. BUT in its defense I had this program a virus running maksing as MSGS.EXE. It would come on during long overnight vue renders and totally mess up my work. This would happen every few nights I would come down in the AM and MSGS.EXE would be conusming 100 percent of the processor and the computer was totally unresponsive. Ran Norton several times full scan everything and it reported no problems. When Norton ran out I tried this Aavast thing and it wanted to do all these full system scans the first time I ran it, so I let it do its thing on restart too and sure enough I have never had this MSGS.exe thing again. I used to see it in the processes and shut it down before rendering but it would come back on its own even without restarting the computer. Now it is gone totally so, maybe Aavast is more aggressive than Norton was but I will keep with it till it does something really awfull. Hey btw I am doing a GI render in poser 6 and it is really interesting!!!! very nice so far.

I ran the install and first run with all virus protection and firewall OFF and that was it, worked like a charm thank you everyone for helping me get through this trying time. I went from the heights of happiness - MY POSER DOWNLOAD IS READY - to the depths of despair - UGH I TOTALLY HOSED MY ENTIRE COMPTUER WITH A BAD NVIDIA DRIVER UPADTE - to - OK DRIVER IS ROLLED BACK AND NOW I CAN DO THE VIDEO JOB I HAVE LINED UP FOR THE NEXT 2 WEEKS - TO - SCARAB MADE THE SUGGESTION THAT FIXED MY POSER 6. Thank you all again and again. I hope I can pay it foward sometime myself. I will watch the forum over the next few weeks and see if anyone else has this problem so I can help out and credit Scarab.

it is XP by the way

it might not have been a true BSOD it was a blue background with all white lettering talking about saving my computer by shutting down lest damage occur way too much to read before it shut down. I am goign to try the virus and firewall idea that sounds promising to me. and Deecey you are so kind I really apreciate your sentiment.

turned off my second monitor in the settings just to check and still same problem. I email CL but have no illusions as to how long it might take them to respond. Oh well, I will enjoy all the postings tonight that you all provide and hope they know what the issue is. I have never crashed poser 5 or any other program for that matter (unless doing something really stupid like trying to render 10 textured poser figures or something like that) Thanks again, if you want to take a break from rendering and try your mind on my issues I appreciate it.

turned off my second monitor in the settings just to check and still same problem. I email CL but have no illusions as to how long it might take them to respond. Oh well, I will enjoy all the postings tonight that you all provide and hope they know what the issue is. I have never crashed poser 5 or any other program for that matter (unless doing something really stupid like trying to render 10 textured poser figures or something like that) Thanks again, if you want to take a break from rendering and try your mind on my issues I appreciate it.

just reinstalled on C drive same thing. Computer has been solid as a rock until the Invidia thing an hour ago. Everything else works perfectly. Will try with no open GL but display and viewports and rendering are all fine, just cannot use any function under the File menu.