Greywolf

Looks very smart.......

Might have to take a look at that then! ;0)

Thanks for the info. 

Klutz :0)

OK done a search & come up empty....

Who by & where can I take a look, please?

Klutz :0/

http://www.evilinnocence.com/xd/

The program itself is free to DL, but it's useless without at least one figure license.
Here's how it works. In my case, the figure I really needed stuff for is Alexa 2 because she
gets very little support. I bought her license for 9.97. This means I can convert from ANY 
character Crossdresser supports, to Alexa 2. Converting from something is free, it's converting
TO something that costs money. Since most people only need this for a handful of figures,
it's cheap. It only starts to add up as you add figures. Check it out. Shadow Dancer isn't a
simple outfit. It consists of multiple parts, and XD converted them with little effort from me. :)

Greywolf

Thanks for the additional info....

I'll take a wander on over.

Klutz :0)

Looks like I will have to keep an eye out for when a Miki 2 licence comes available. 

Klutz :0/

I imagine it's only a matter of time. Miki 2 is very popular. I have her too, just haven't used
her yet since Aiko, Vicky and Alexa are my favourite fems. :)

Greywolf

Thanks for the heads up! I've been waiting for the AM module!

I've been watching this software.

Is it creating a modified mesh? Or is it creating a fit morph that is used with the original clothing item?

If it's a morph, then the existing morphs on the clothing would still be available. If it's creating a modified copy of the figure, then I assume that means it's only going to fit the default body pose of the figure you converted to?

The site seems to be lacking a little on detail, could someone who has used it give a little more indepth information? :)

It creates a modified mesh and conformer for the target figure.

CrossDresser has an option to leave the mesh-grouping unchanged.  This will theoretically allow you to transfer existing morphs from the original item to the new item afterward.

Crossdresser 2?? Was there an update? looks YES!!!!!! HIRO HAS BEEN ADDED!!!!!!!!! jump jump jump bB

Thank you Little_Dragon. :)

I guess if the figures are fairly close in proportions and the difference between the original and the modified meshes are fairly subtle, some morphs might still be useful.  Or, just make new fit morphs for the modified mesh.

I've been out of touch with the community for the last year or so, are there any good tools available today for making fit morphs?

Hmmm. Maybe 'The Tailor'? It's a program I bought at DAZ, but haven't used yet. I believe
it's supposted to fit a figure's clothes onto a morphed version of the figure. As you know,
many clothing items come with limited morphs, or none at all. The Tailor is used to fit such
clothes to morphed characters, I think.

I use Wardrobe Wizard with Crossdresser. Crossdresser does the figure conversion. Wardrobe Wizard does the conversion to the morphed figure. But you can also use Tailor, or Magnet sets like Netherwork's, or the new M3/Brom magnet set at DAZ. bB

Thanks guys.

I had used Talor in the past, with mixed results. I'd expect it's probably been updated since then, I'll have to check. I'll also check out Wardrobe Wizard. The combination of one of these with Cross Dresser would be a strong combination if they all work as advertised! :)

Quote - I use Wardrobe Wizard with Crossdresser. Crossdresser does the figure conversion. Wardrobe Wizard does the conversion to the morphed figure. But you can also use Tailor, or Magnet sets like Netherwork's, or the new M3/Brom magnet set at DAZ. bB

Hey, BastBlack,

     I see that Wardrobe Wizard also does figure to figure conversion, in addition to figure to morphed figure conversion. I'm curious why you would still need Cross Dresser. Does it do the figure to figure conversion better?

Quote - I use Wardrobe Wizard with Crossdresser. Crossdresser does the figure conversion. Wardrobe Wizard does the conversion to the morphed figure. But you can also use Tailor, or Magnet sets like Netherwork's, or the new M3/Brom magnet set at DAZ. bB

Could you explain this a little more please?

You use XD 1st and it creates a new Obj file?
Then you can use that XD Obj file in WW?

Tks
DR

I use WW to bring clothing to morphed figures, like putting clothing on GND and it works great. If crossdresser did it perfectly the first time I might be tempted but it sounds like you have to do some work to get it right and then you don't end up with the morphs intact? Maybe someone can come in and do a short tutorial or the person who is selling it could explain how it is different from other programs out there. I bought the tailor and was disappointed with it. Unfortunately I didn't use it until the time was up to return it or it would have gone back.
Thanks,
Marque

The reason for doing this is Crossdresser does the cleanest clothing conversion thus far in Poserdom. The downside is Crossdresser can only do the default figure. I love Wardrobe Wizard, and still use it a lot. I also use Poser Tool Box and Obj to Cr2. You can see my XD and WW experiment here: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2695675&page=2#message_2969190 bB

Quote - The reason for doing this is Crossdresser does the cleanest clothing conversion thus far in Poserdom. The downside is Crossdresser can only do the default figure. I love Wardrobe Wizard, and still use it a lot. I also use Poser Tool Box and Obj to Cr2. You can see my XD and WW experiment here: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2695675&page=2#message_2969190 bB

So, what exactly is your WorkFlow?

I have used WW since PhilC released it.

Tks
DR

I think you get varying results from one conversion program to the next. The best results, to me, are a manual conversion with Clothing Converter (DAZ). However, because of Apollo's default position, he is more difficult to convert clothing to in that program. Wardrobe Wizard is able to convert, but the mesh on my one attempt was pretty mangled in the arms. I tried out the Apollo module for Cross Dresser 2 last night, and while I'm going to have to do some adjustment of the joints along the collars, the converted mesh was alot cleaner.

Cross Dresser does not convert to a CR2 that retains the body dials and scale dials of Apollo. So once I've cleaned up the joints and have a good working conversion, I'll probably analyze it with Wardrobe Wizard and then use WW to adjust to any morphing / scaling I do to the default Apollo Character.

Quote - I think you get varying results from one conversion program to the next. The best results, to me, are a manual conversion with Clothing Converter (DAZ). However, because of Apollo's default position, he is more difficult to convert clothing to in that program. Wardrobe Wizard is able to convert, but the mesh on my one attempt was pretty mangled in the arms. I tried out the Apollo module for Cross Dresser 2 last night, and while I'm going to have to do some adjustment of the joints along the collars, the converted mesh was alot cleaner.

Cross Dresser does not convert to a CR2 that retains the body dials and scale dials of Apollo. So once I've cleaned up the joints and have a good working conversion, I'll probably analyze it with Wardrobe Wizard and then use WW to adjust to any morphing / scaling I do to the default Apollo Character.

If Apollo had a default pose as all other figures do, I don't think there would be too much trouble with the arms but unfortuniately, his defualt pose has his arms bent. There is a Classic Poser in his pose folder might would work IF you could get that pose to be his default pose.

Quote -
If Apollo had a default pose as all other figures do, I don't think there would be too much trouble with the arms but unfortuniately, his defualt pose has his arms bent. There is a Classic Poser in his pose folder might would work IF you could get that pose to be his default pose.

Yeah, personally, I think Clothing Converter is a highly underappreciated application. For what it can do, it is the best conversion utility out there. It also has the highest learning curve. But once you get over the idea that your best results aren't going to come from pushing a button and that you have the power to manipulate clothing on a vertex by vertex level... and additionally you can use a magnet system that is ten times easier than Poser's magnets... It's awesome. 

But MarkDCs support is not anywhere near what it should be. I dropped a support ticket asking if there were any tips for converting to Apollo, that was well over a month ago, I've still had no response.

The only thing I can think of, and I don't know if it would work, is to pose Apollo with the Classic Poser pose and then save the obj out of Poser, create a copy of the CR2 and point it to the new obj. I don't think it would work, but perhaps someone more knowledgeable will come along and explain why. Or else, I'll try it when I get home.

 I just got the David license and installed it. I was going to try to cconvert Apollo's jeans to David but it seems XD only wants to freeze now when trying to convert to David. I also have a license to convert clothing to Apollo installed.

So I tried to convert an M3 Shirt to Max and I get an error..."There is no disk in the drive. Please insert a disk into drive M:". I don't have a drive M: on this machine.

Anyone know what's going on?

Quote -  I just got the David license and installed it. I was going to try to cconvert Apollo's jeans to David but it seems XD only wants to freeze now when trying to convert to David. I also have a license to convert clothing to Apollo installed.

So I tried to convert an M3 Shirt to Max and I get an error..."There is no disk in the drive. Please insert a disk into drive M:". I don't have a drive M: on this machine.

Anyone know what's going on?

You should email them about it. Maybe it's a license install error? I had a hard time installing M3 at first (only unstuff could open the installer). I emailed and got a fast reply. It has since been fixed. The customer service was good. ^^ bB

Waiting for e-frontier Figure support.

Quote - Waiting for e-frontier Figure support.

I was gonna buy it but it's PayPal and no Sydney, so I changed my mind. Then as I was looking at WW I couldn't figre out if it supported Sydney and G2 females, so I didn't buy that either. So instead, more Miki2 stuff! :D ...And now I am starting to regret it... :(

Downloaded this program and bougth a V4-license after your post Greywolf and I totaly agree with you, problem is I cant stop using it cause its so cool :-)

Thx for the tip as I didnt know the proggy existed.

Regards / Jonny

This is a wonderful program.  I have had great luck converting things to V4.  However,  my attempts at converting to Apollo have been less than desireable. 

If anyone has tips on how to make this work better for Apollo,  I sure would love to hear it.

Thanks,

HorseFeathers

Does this coversion program able to transfer morph targets to the converted clothing models, so it will fit different body types? Is it truly a "one button" conversion process or do you still have to tweak around like in Clothes Converter 3.1?

I have Clothes Converter 3.1 which I purchased from DAZ3D, but I am having such a difficult time converting stuff with it because it's a very complicated program to work with. I already got the response from EvilInnocence of the payment address, if the user response is good I might go ahead and send out my check. I am in a need for lots of V4 clothings, since there were lots of good quality V3 models I might just convert them for V4.

Please post some converted V4 clothing models if you happened to purchase the V4 license.

i emailed them about freak support (haven't even bought the proggie yet) and it is on the way. love esther

Hi GhostWolf!

No as far as I can tell it doesnt transfer morphs, however the conversion itself is in most cases beutiful.
I use magnets to create morphs in the clothes, because I dont think the result from the various programs ive tried are good enough..

Regards / Jonny

So it does shoes and gloves too? That might be worth the price right there.
Marque

Can't order from the store, clicked the add button but it doesn't go into the cart?

No.  Shoes and gloves don't really convert. 

On the picture I posted to this thread, you can see the hands of the gloves look too small for M3.  The gloves and shoes were not resized to fit M3.  The "hand" section of the glove fits, but the fingers are not reshaped to fit M3's longer fingers, they are too short.  The same for Shoes. It will conform, and if you just HIDE the fingers and feet, you won't get poke-through, but it's not a true conversion.  Make sense?

Crossdresser tends to convert too large for M3. Conversions of jackets have the shoulders way too large. Conversions of pants have the lower leg too large. I guess I will have to experiment on using "poke- through" adjustments in reverse to slim down these conversions? On the picture I posted on this thread, I used percentages to slim down the clothing to better fit M3.

85% on X for the "shin.
Enlarge the neck with a  -15% taper.

bB

I'm kind of late to this thread, but whatever...

one thing I noted with wardrobe wizard is that sometimes, on some clothes, you had to do a lot of tweaking to the results, either softening the mesh inflating it / deflating it...

apparently XD (funny acronym xD) does this job better? I'd really like more insight on this...

I do have to tweak all XD conversions, but it's a different kind of tweak. Wardrobe Wizard will cause rumples. XD will cause bloating. So wqhen using WW, you use smooth, inflate and deflate. With XD, you can og into the advanced options and tinker with the setting. Since I have no patience for that, I just end up exporting the clothing to Blacksmith and tailoring it by hand. The image is silly Halloween Coslpay with Aiko's nurse dress fitted to a morphed M3. I used a combination of XD, Hexagon and Blacksmith for the conversion. FYI, CrossDresser just added more figures, including the G2 males. Also, WW works inside Poser, Mac or PC. XD works outside of Poser, PC only.

kickass image, by the way...

I'm definately gonna check XD then... rather deal with bloating than with WW's rumpling, which is a pain in the neck sometimes..

thanks for all the info!!

Sure thing. ^^ Tomorrow I am starting my G2 conversions with XD. I have definitely gotten my money's worth with XD (but the same could be said for WW too). I like both. Right now I am using XD and Poser Tool Box at lot. ^^ I was just over at PhilC's, The next generation of WW will be coming out soon. Interesting. I wonder what new goodies it will have? ^^

where exactly crossconverter save the converted files ?
Thanks

Little_Dragon is right:

CrossDresser has an option to leave the mesh-grouping unchanged.  This will theoretically allow you to transfer existing morphs from the original item to the new item afterward.>

... and thanks for this idea!  I tried this and it worked. I used Crossdresser to convert an A3 skirt to V3, and then used Morph Manager to add the original morphs back into the converted skirt. While most these morphs were of course made for A3, it did include morphs like "Skirt Longer" that are very useful on any figure. The A3 morphs are now combined with V3 morphs I added with Netherworks' V3 Cloth Kit, giving me a skirt that can fit almost any V3 body morph I come up with.

Keeping morphs is a beautiful thing. ^^ I bought Aery Soul's 2035 Girl because I wanted that cool scifi motorcycle jacket for M3. Sadly, I couldn't keep morphs using WW, not because I didn't use the advanced options (I did), but because the original Obj was not welded! Neither could the unwelded obj be edited in Blacksmith to fit M3. Maybe Modo could have done it or using Poser Magnets. But regardless, XD did convert it despite the obj being unwelded and I could load all the morphs into it with MacConstructor! So now M3 has his cool scifi morphing motorcycle jacket . Yea! ^^ The converted files go here, Runtime:geometries:!Converted Runtime:Character:!Converted But you can override where they go. bB

linkdink
Where do I get this Morph Manager?  I converted a shirt for M3 to Matt3 but the morphs didn't transfer.  The morphs to the shirt allowed it to be unbuttoned and so forth so I want to transfer the morphs over to the converted Matt3.  Thanks.
Adrian

Attached Link: http://www.morphography.uk.vu/dlutility.html

Esther
Thank you so much for the link.  I'm going to try it out now and I'll let you know how it goes.
Adrian

I'm having major problems trying to get Morph Manger to work.  I simply don't know how to do it:-)  Does anyone have an easy tutorial to explain how to transfer morphs?  Thanks.
Adrian

Load in one Cr2 on each side (the one with the morphs and the one without).
Right-click on the body in the Cr2 that has the morphs that you want to transfer to the other cr2. 

OR if you only want to move certain morphs, right-click on that particular morph and select copy. 

Save your new cr2 (or should I say a copy of your new Cr2, you know, just in case).

Sixus
Thanks for the TUT.  I will try this and see what happens.  I hope I do it right.  I'll let you know what happens.
Adrian

Sixus
OK, I loaded the CR2 file with the morphs on the left side.  Then I loaded the CR2 file without the morphs on the right.  When I highlight COPY in the left Cr2 file, it just gives me 3 choices which are:

Export to OBJ
Properties
Cancel

It doesn't give me a COPY option.  I don't know what to do from here.  Thanks again.
Adrian

I'm a very confused newbie here. So many names are being thrown out there and such.

I have a V3. I morphed her into a vuluptuous V3 with curves. So that is Figure to same Figure morphed. Got that part. Now which one of these are the best for a person who's very new and would like less tweaking and a decent price range? I really am lost why it seems you need two utilities to convert an object?