whats negging ?

Hi Tebop,

Have you considered a monastery?

whats negging?

Not having read the book at the link, I can only suppose it's putting someone "in their place" by insulting them. Manipulation to keep them off-balance. Childish, and as stated above, possibly dangerous to the user. Better hope it's not the hills of Tennesse, and she doesn't have brothers with rifles. I have dumped beer over a jerk's head. Think about it: Why would anyone with half a brain waste time on someone who doesn't respect them?

Now, are we talking about stupid games to procure free sex, or trying to establish some sort of real connection with another human being? Women do qualify as human the last time I checked.

didn't Aretha Franklin have a song about R-E-S-P-E-C-T ?

Quote - Not having read the book at the link, I can only suppose it's putting someone "in their place" by insulting them. Manipulation to keep them off-balance. Childish, and as stated above, possibly dangerous to the user. Better hope it's not the hills of Tennesse, and she doesn't have brothers with rifles. I have dumped beer over a jerk's head. Think about it: Why would anyone with half a brain waste time on someone who doesn't respect them?

Now, are we talking about stupid games to procure free sex, or trying to establish some sort of real connection with another human being? Women do qualify as human the last time I checked.

And when we assume... I would advise giving the book a read through and ignoring the feedback of anyone who has an opinion on something they haven't read. I passed the book off on a female co-worker who saw me reading it and was intrigued. She didn't find any of it offensive. She understood herself better.

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Unless you are either of the following: caucasian, tall, hot (physically built or handsome) or you have lots of money and status like working as a NY Times Writer.

Women in my experience will decide within 3 secs if they want you or not. If you pull off this weird routines on them when they dont find you attractive it will only result to rejection.

A guy named JosterD asked the same question and you can see our replies on the above link.

Quote - whats negging?

Is a technique which they use to generate attraction by insulting a woman using back handed complements.

Unfortunately this doesn't work with unattractive/low status people and many dont understand this well enough that they end up hurting the woman emotionally.

Quote - I read that book and it doesn't work. Believe me you will turn up creepy if you follow exactly what was taught there.

 

Unless you are either of the following: caucasian, tall, hot (physically built or handsome) or you have lots of money and status like working as a NY Times Writer.

 

Women in my experience will decide within 3 secs if they want you or not. If you pull off this weird routines on them when they dont find you attractive it will only result to rejection.

 

A guy named JosterD asked the same question and you can see our replies on the above link.

If you read it, then you missed the point and only tried to pull the most shallow of meaning from it.  At no point have I suggested that he try any of the routines in the book.  Everything I've suggested about it's value goes a fair share deeper than that.  Those routines are ice-breakers.  They're to get guys comfortable with aproaching girls and give them something to say or do.  What the book guides you toward is being the best version of yourself you can be, and if you skipped all that and just borrowed a couple pick up lines... then you just didn't get it at all.

I know what you mean but according to the thousands upon thousands of so called average frustrated chumps who complain in their seduction forums about getting rejected and shot down by women, these ice breakers dont work 90% of the time to generate enough attraction to keep these women and those who did have the qualities I have mentioned above.

There is this show in VH1 called the pickup artist and the finalist who won the game was shown talking to an attractive woman using the routines taught to him and she said something like "Its not about what you say, its about how you look like."

Look I know it sounds shallow but that's the way it works to attract women but to keep them is another story.

You cannot be "the best version of yourself" if clearly from the start the book taught the readers to use ice breakers when the truth is men should not spit game on women unless they chose him first.

The reason is simple, so that both parties wont waste time and energy on people they dont want.

what most people don't realize is that its really not all about "looks".
Sure, there are a lot of very attractive people that have a good heart and personality, that are honest, caring, giving, and all those great virtues, but it doesn't always come with the package.

I've spoken to a lot of handsome people, make and female, that are so stuck on themselves its enough to make you puke. A lot of them have this magic get out of jail free card...bounce through life with their golden smile, when in reality they're nasty, step on anyone to get ahead, assholes. There's a lot of them. They expect everyone to fall over for them cause they're so beautiful ... and there is no doubt that they make it a lot of the time because of those traits. Its mindboggling.

and I'm going, what a shallow prick.

I have utterly no interest in reading material on this subject. I have utterly no interest in being "picked up", or in "picking up" anyone, or any pop-psychology explanation of why I react the way I do. Simple: pay me a backhanded compliment, and you're an instant bore. Whatever happened to "May I buy you a drink?", "Would you like to dance?", "Would you like to go to dinner?" ???

For gosh sakes, discuss something that doesn't make the girl's eyes roll back in her head. Whether it's football, theoretical physics, or Lady Gaga, find out what interests her, then find a common ground.

Quote - I have utterly no interest in reading material on this subject. I have utterly no interest in being "picked up", or in "picking up" anyone, or any pop-psychology explanation of why I react the way I do. Simple: pay me a backhanded compliment, and you're an instant bore. Whatever happened to "May I buy you a drink?", "Would you like to dance?", "Would you like to go to dinner?" ???

For gosh sakes, discuss something that doesn't make the girl's eyes roll back in her head. Whether it's football, theoretical physics, or Lady Gaga, find out what interests her, then find a common ground.

Then you'll be happy to know I wasn't talking to you, I was trying to help the person who started the thread, because the thread is kind of about them and not about you. Go get your attention somewhere else.

Quote - > Quote - Not having read the book at the link, I can only suppose it's putting someone "in their place" by insulting them. Manipulation to keep them off-balance. Childish, and as stated above, possibly dangerous to the user. Better hope it's not the hills of Tennesse, and she doesn't have brothers with rifles. I have dumped beer over a jerk's head. Think about it: Why would anyone with half a brain waste time on someone who doesn't respect them?

Now, are we talking about stupid games to procure free sex, or trying to establish some sort of real connection with another human being? Women do qualify as human the last time I checked.

And when we assume... I would advise giving the book a read through and ignoring the feedback of anyone who has an opinion on something they haven't read. I passed the book off on a female co-worker who saw me reading it and was intrigued. She didn't find any of it offensive. She understood herself better.

hmmm... seemed to be talking to me. My bad.

And this is why I reccommend people never ask you lot anything serious beyond "How do I take Vicky's clothes off?"! :rolleyes:

Quote - > Quote - I have utterly no interest in reading material on this subject. I have utterly no interest in being "picked up", or in "picking up" anyone, or any pop-psychology explanation of why I react the way I do. Simple: pay me a backhanded compliment, and you're an instant bore. Whatever happened to "May I buy you a drink?", "Would you like to dance?", "Would you like to go to dinner?" ???

For gosh sakes, discuss something that doesn't make the girl's eyes roll back in her head. Whether it's football, theoretical physics, or Lady Gaga, find out what interests her, then find a common ground.

Then you'll be happy to know I wasn't talking to you, I was trying to help the person who started the thread, because the thread is kind of about them and not about you. Go get your attention somewhere else.

Is that one of those back-handed compliments? Wow. Very effective. :blink:

back-handed compliments:

• you don't sweat as much as I expected
• it takes alot of moxie to wear those boots in here
• that must be the biggest back tattoo I've seen this month
• you can really swig those shots down like a pro

however, they only work with needy d00dz - they don't work with "girls" IMVHO. 

When starting a relationship with one of the Poser Not We (a non-Poser type person), should you tell them about your Poser habit?  Or should it be hidden until the relationship is fairly secure, like an odd sexual quirk or strange bathroom habits, or an off-putting blemish in a troubling location?  (Note: It should not be assumed that Cage necessarily has any of these things.  Ahem.)

you should be right up front about it. she may want to play too..or you may have a shock to find out she's one of the members of this forum all along and has been using Poser since V1 !!!

Quote - When starting a relationship with one of the Poser Not We (a non-Poser type person), should you tell them about your Poser habit?  Or should it be hidden until the relationship is fairly secure, like an odd sexual quirk or strange bathroom habits, or an off-putting blemish in a troubling location?  (Note: It should not be assumed that Cage necessarily has any of these things.  Ahem.)

Hah. It's a good question.

Heck, how do you deal with revealing your Poser habit should you have acquired it after the relationship was secured?

I mean: are we all really totally honest with our partners about 1. how much money we spend on this hobby 2. how much time we spend on this hobby 3. how often we wonder how our partner would look with a .5 bellythin .25 young .7 definition morph?

Personally,  the only woman i'd be interested in dating is my best friend i met in Portsmouth in 1984.

Quote - Personally,  the only woman i'd be interested in dating is my best friend i met in Portsmouth in 1984.

i bet if i put 100 hot ladies in front of you you wouldn't re sist

Quote - > Quote - Personally,  the only woman i'd be interested in dating is my best friend i met in Portsmouth in 1984.

i bet if i put 100 hot ladies in front of you you wouldn't re sist

...and this is why you're inexperienced and wanting to "get a GF"... Patorak knows the meaning of a relationship, obviously. Good luck with your acquisition.

Here ya go!

http://www.cloudgirlfriend.com/

I haven't been around here much lately, but decided to drop by and see what's new.  And I saw this thread and thought, finally...something I'm somewhat of an expert on. I'm not an expert on women, but I know a lot about ways for shy men to meet them.

As it already has been discussed, the personal ads either in your local paper or a REPUTABLE online site is the best way to go.  Contrary to what one person says they are NOT filled with hookers, unless you're looking at Craig's List or something sleazy like that.

I'm 48, been married for 14 years, but for over 10 years before that I did a LOT of dating through the personal ads.  First in New Jersey through The Bergen Record, and then when I moved to Seattle through The Eastside Weekly (which is how I met my wife)

I've never been the sort to do the bar scene, I've never had enough nerve to go up to a woman and buy her a drink.  I'm not the greatest looking guy in the world, but I have a decent personality and I knew that my looks (first impression) would not always get me to the conversation stage and I would be set up for lots of rejection.

So, the personal ads.  The great thing about doing personal ads is that you can post your picture, see pictures of women, and you know what each other looks like before you even meet.  So I know if a woman agreed to meet me, after seeing my picture, I am past the first major hurdle.  And in turn, I can also see what she looks like as well, and while I do have some standards as far as looks, I don't really care or want the "model type" of woman. 

And through the personal ads, you can also filter out the types of people that don't fit your personality.  You can be very specific or as general as you want.  Although most people share a love of humor, good movies and romance,  you can find people that have your specific type of humor, likes sci-fi movies or other specifc types of things.

And my last word of advice, is you have to have a LOT of patience.  I did the dating scene for 10 YEARS before I found the woman I married.  I dated many many dozens of women.  Some for a few months, but mostly they were just one time dates.  Either she didn't like me or I didn't like her.   In New Jersey I dated a woman for almost a year and we were talking about getting married, but in the end it didn't work out.  So you have to expect to go on a lot of dates, which is okay because you get to kind of "practice" on the ones that don't stick.   One of my nervous habits when meeting someone for dinner was I was constantly fiddling with the silverware.  A habit I broke myself of after a couple of women asked if I made them nervous.

So it goes something like this: either place an ad or respond to one.  Correspond with each other (mail, email, phone) for a while.  Move on to the date.  It could be lunch, dinner or just drinks.  Don't go to a movie on the first date because you need a chance to talk to each other.  And definitely DO NOT tell them your sob stories.  Don't talk about yourself exclusively,  let her talk and at least try to act like you're interested in what she is saying. 

Some guys will disagree, but don't expect to "get lucky" on the first date.  Especially through dating ads.  There's a lot of weirdos out there (both men and women) Ah, the stories I could tell! I actually wrote a song about my dating experiences called, "Mabel Plastic: Profession Freeze Queen from Hell"   Anyway, you have to get comfortable with each other first.  Women especially need to know you are not a whacko before they invite you home.

I hope that helps.  Feel free to contact me if you have any questions.

Lee

Quote -   It could be lunch, dinner or just drinks.  Don't go to a movie on the first date because you need a chance to talk to each other.  And definitely DO NOT tell them your sob stories.  Don't talk about yourself exclusively,  let her talk and at least try to act like you're interested in what she is saying. 

This is the best advice of a man to another man. Very true.

it may be a lost cause, tebop, if you listen like this

 It's Logic

Women probably won't understand this, so ask a man to explain it to you.

A wife asks her husband "Could you please go shopping for me and buy one carton of milk, and if they have eggs, get 6".
A short time later the husband comes back with 6 cartons of milk. The wife asks him, "Why the hell did you buy 6 cartons of milk?"He replied, "They had eggs."

:lol:  I hate to laugh, but my husband does that all the time to me.  I'll mis-speak when asking him to get groceries, or text a shorthand list to him....and he'll come back without the thing I asked for, but 13 of the thing he went for in the first place, confused as to why he just spent $30 on brownie mix when we have no eggs.  I have to keep remembering that not everyone knows shorthand, and, sometimes, I say the wrong things.

But, a tip, guys, if what your wife asks you to do sounds kind of insane (like buying $30 worth of brownie mix), ask her if she'e sure! 

i still remember the time we spent together.  Her family that i met. The cathedral she took me to.  The drive in the countryside.  

i think if my best friend arrived for a visit,  i would ask her if she would like to give me a hand planting the late spring garden.  Would that be considered a date?

no ...

that would be considered free labor

Quote - no ...

that would be considered free labor

:lol:

Quote - But, a tip, guys, if what your wife asks you to do sounds kind of insane (like buying $30 worth of brownie mix), ask her if she'e sure! 

Or ask her if she's pregnant ;-)

Quote - When starting a relationship with one of the Poser Not We (a non-Poser type person), should you tell them about your Poser habit?  Or should it be hidden until the relationship is fairly secure, like an odd sexual quirk or strange bathroom habits, or an off-putting blemish in a troubling location?  (Note: It should not be assumed that Cage necessarily has any of these things.  Ahem.)

I find that telling her about it is easy if you wait until she has her clothes off, so don't rush it, wait at least wait an hour or two after you first meet. Then you can compliment her at the same time by saying things like "You have pretty armpits, nice and low" or "Your toes are normal length, thank heavens for that". And my favorite one "You're really supple, Vicky can't do that without her hips going all weird".

(face palm in embarassment)

...wait a minute...how many batches of brownies would 30 lbs make?

Quote - (face palm in embarassment)  

...wait a minute...how many batches of brownies would 30 lbs make?

No idea...but, I do know that I have enough to make a double batch a week until August. :lol:

Mmmm...

I met my wife in church when she was 13 and I was 16. Never dated before that much, or after with anyone else. What was the point, I had already met her. The One. So I was actually refering to Craigs list and a few of the online sites that keep hitting me up with spam.

Hey JenX,  what kind of topping?  Plain?  Frosted?  Powered sugar?

that would be another good tip for joster - steer clear of potential girl-friends with cell-phones glued to their ears in public places.  it means they're very clingy and insecure.  with d00dz it means the same thing - can't get out of contact with their GF for one second, or some better-looking/more confident guy with more bling will steal her away from him.

...a double batch a week doesn't leave much time for making strawberry tarts...

Quote - Hey JenX,  what kind of topping?  Plain?  Frosted?  Powered sugar?

These don't need topping...they're fudgy and gooey.  But, I drizzle melted peanut butter on mine. 

Quote - grocery store is a good place, but don't be overzealous checking out your new chosen woman while you passionately fondle the melons.

Really, the grocery store is a great place. just open up with idle chit chat about the price of beef and chicken, the rising cost of milk, and all that, then casually slip in that you're going to be cooking out and would you want to come over for a steak ? maybe a beer ?

also, just be real..none of that phoney stuff. Hey, I'm an old fart too, but if you're nice and just talk about stuff, especially when there's a few people around..and be humerous...its a real ice breaker.

To be honest, the last thing on my mind when I'm at a grocery store is to meet a guy. In fact I go to all sorts of lengths to avoid talking to people when I'm grocery shopping. The only exception of course is if someone asks my advice on a grocery item, or I'm sitting at Starbucks taking a needed back rest break. However, even then I'm not interested in some strange guy chatting me up and asking me over to his place for a BBQ. I think that would be kind of creepy actually.

My advice is to not try so hard to "find a girl friend."  Go out and get involved in life and activities. Take a class. Volunteer.  Meet people as friends without any pressure for anything more.

If there is chemistry there between you and someone else, great!  But don't go out looking for it because you will only come across as desperate. And there is nothing more of a turn off to both men and women is someone trying too hard to impress or "snag" a partner.

So the secret is not to talk to women.  Huh.  :unsure:

Cheesecake models: is there any problem they can't solve?

(Nudity flag for photo which is mildly salacious, in a fifties-ish way....)

did they explain why she was grunting, rather than just speaking in her natural southern accent?  if joster wants a date with a girl, he could definitely try that, but they won't open up to him (start talking) until they decide he's not creepy, hence it's necessary to interpret their body language and facial expressions with lightning-like speed and absolute precision, as they will decide whether he's creepy in the first 6.5 seconds.  YMMV.

Shame it's not like the old days when all you needed was copious amounts of booze and a Barry White album.

Laurie

Quote - did they explain why she was grunting, rather than just speaking in her natural southern accent?  if joster wants a date with a girl, he could definitely try ........

Ummm this OP is  "Tebop",
Superman Tricked "JosterD" into saying his own name backwards which sent him back to his universe and returned "Tebop" home to ours.

Cheers

Quote - did they explain why she was grunting, rather than just speaking in her natural southern accent?

I suspect the publisher may have been putting words into the mouth of the model.  Doesn't seem like fifties girlie mags were the place to find accurate quotes or the best verb for the situation.  :unsure:

Yes, it's probably very bad advice, for starting out.  The image made me laugh, when I accidentally found it, and then it made me think of this thread.  Where it wasn't actually altogether appropriate.  Umm. 

Is there a case of double identities going around again?  Ooh!  I always thought that was interesting.  Probably hard to pull off, for very long, though.

page was an S&M queen in those girlie mags - perhaps that's the source.  no need to go into graphic details. :lol:

anyway, that may just be the secret to how inexperienced older men can meet and become involved with girl-friends - the simple acronym "POBET".

Quote - Is there a case of double identities going around again?  Ooh!  I always thought that was interesting.  Probably hard to pull off, for very long, though.

not really

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