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Subject: Show your Poser 13 renders!


Afrodite-Ohki ( ) posted Thu, 12 October 2023 at 6:31 PM · edited Thu, 12 October 2023 at 6:31 PM

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jura11 ( ) posted Thu, 12 October 2023 at 11:17 PM · edited Thu, 12 October 2023 at 11:17 PM

Here are two renders of my scene with V4,SSD failed but manage it recover something and scene is almost done,justnot decided on floor and few props but hopefully it will be released soon and I'm so sorry for that


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Y-Phil ( ) posted Fri, 13 October 2023 at 1:24 AM

Woah... It'll be such a good, starting with a nude from (not of) Afrodite Ohki plus a pic from Jura11... MSG9lvHuL6W3sHU0lK5uuBo4TmQ3ogLGOtNq1hHV.gifYHbcXlrn7pNlz78SgH0BIOri0UyyLHxnENJj4931.gif

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Thalek ( ) posted Fri, 13 October 2023 at 6:41 AM
Charly_99 posted at 12:44 AM Wed, 11 October 2023 - #4476097

Objects converted to OBJ with Blender. Then imported into Poser. From here: polyhaven.com

Thank you!  They have some lovely stuff.


JanusJsenwark ( ) posted Sat, 14 October 2023 at 7:41 AM · edited Sat, 14 October 2023 at 7:41 AM

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JanusJsenwark ( ) posted Sat, 14 October 2023 at 1:07 PM

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JanusJsenwark ( ) posted Sat, 14 October 2023 at 1:08 PM · edited Sat, 14 October 2023 at 1:11 PM

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Afrodite-Ohki ( ) posted Sat, 14 October 2023 at 6:30 PM

You reeeeally loved her feet huh. LMAO!

Nice renders!

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ghostship2 ( ) posted Sat, 14 October 2023 at 11:18 PM · edited Sat, 14 October 2023 at 11:18 PM

nothing artistic about this one, just a test render of a new morph.

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Y-Phil ( ) posted Sun, 15 October 2023 at 4:30 AM · edited Sun, 15 October 2023 at 4:30 AM
ghostship2 posted at 11:18 PM Sat, 14 October 2023 - #4476284

nothing artistic about this one, just a test render of a new morph.


Looks great euol0BRhABV3SJ0GJakuTPjNmFJfPvWIuTRCrfUp.gif


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Y-Phil ( ) posted Sun, 15 October 2023 at 4:30 AM
Charly_99 posted at 1:08 PM Sat, 14 October 2023 - #4476249

Wow splendid renders

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shvrdavid ( ) posted Sun, 15 October 2023 at 2:16 PM · edited Sun, 15 October 2023 at 2:16 PM

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JanusJsenwark ( ) posted Sun, 15 October 2023 at 3:29 PM
Afrodite-Ohki posted at 6:30 PM Sat, 14 October 2023 - #4476266

You reeeeally loved her feet huh. LMAO!

Nice renders!

Yes indeed,. They are absolute woooowwww....!


JanusJsenwark ( ) posted Sun, 15 October 2023 at 3:38 PM · edited Sun, 15 October 2023 at 3:38 PM

Yes, I was totally fascinated by LaFamme2's feet. The mobility alone is incredible.

Below are a few pictures of my attempts to create a metallic cosmetic skin shader...

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JanusJsenwark ( ) posted Sun, 15 October 2023 at 3:43 PM
Charly_99 posted at 3:29 PM Sun, 15 October 2023 - #4476311
Afrodite-Ohki posted at 6:30 PM Sat, 14 October 2023 - #4476266

You reeeeally loved her feet huh. LMAO!

Nice renders!

Yes indeed,. They are absolute woooowwww....!
Sorry, correction... I meant the feet and not my pictures! :)


Afrodite-Ohki ( ) posted Sun, 15 October 2023 at 4:12 PM
Charly_99 posted at 3:43 PM Sun, 15 October 2023 - #4476313
Charly_99 posted at 3:29 PM Sun, 15 October 2023 - #4476311
Afrodite-Ohki posted at 6:30 PM Sat, 14 October 2023 - #4476266

You reeeeally loved her feet huh. LMAO!

Nice renders!

Yes indeed,. They are absolute woooowwww....!
Sorry, correction... I meant the feet and not my pictures! :)
Your pictures are wow too :D

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Thalek ( ) posted Mon, 16 October 2023 at 3:59 AM
Afrodite-Ohki posted at 6:30 PM Sat, 14 October 2023 - #4476266

You reeeeally loved her feet huh. LMAO!

Nice renders!

They look to be as posable as the hands. The limited posability of most feet that I've used makes for a small but real loss in versatility and realism.  Now, she can enjoy the sensual pleasures of kneading a high pile carpet, or walking barefoot in the grass, or digging her toes in the sand . . .


Afrodite-Ohki ( ) posted Mon, 16 October 2023 at 10:31 AM

LF2's feet have exactly the same bones as LF's - they're just as posable, the only difference is that LF2's shapes are more realistic than LF's ;)

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RedPhantom ( ) posted Wed, 18 October 2023 at 7:53 AM · edited Wed, 18 October 2023 at 7:54 AM
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Y-Phil ( ) posted Thu, 19 October 2023 at 4:51 PM · edited Thu, 19 October 2023 at 4:56 PM

Coming from the past: Dark Matter, a character created by Ignis Serpentus.at the time of Poser7.
I used to find cool the plasma effect on her skin, and now using CyclesX it's even more cool

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And for the plasma effect itself, I got inspired by the thread on the vascularity, given the fact that this character has separate bitmaps with the plasma effect on them.

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DeeceyArt ( ) posted Thu, 19 October 2023 at 4:58 PM

It's cool that the vascularity thread has inspired people to experiment with Poser's material layers. Loving it!  That looks great!


Y-Phil ( ) posted Fri, 20 October 2023 at 2:00 AM · edited Fri, 20 October 2023 at 2:00 AM

DeeceyArt posted at 4:58 PM Thu, 19 October 2023 - #4476529

It's cool that the vascularity thread has inspired people to experiment with Poser's material layers. Loving it!  That looks great!

I have to say that I have difficulties to use efficiently PrincipledBSDF's specularity for the skin, I largely prefer a second skin with an AnisotropicBSDF, to the point that my toolbox has a dedicated function:

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DeeceyArt ( ) posted Fri, 20 October 2023 at 12:04 PM

Y-Phil posted at 2:00 AM Fri, 20 October 2023 - #4476532

DeeceyArt posted at 4:58 PM Thu, 19 October 2023 - #4476529

It's cool that the vascularity thread has inspired people to experiment with Poser's material layers. Loving it!  That looks great!

I have to say that I have difficulties to use efficiently PrincipledBSDF's specularity for the skin, I largely prefer a second skin with an AnisotropicBSDF, to the point that my toolbox has a dedicated function:

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I'm thinking Principled BSDF probably utilizes Roughness instead of Specular.   Roughness is sort of a combination of specular and gloss. In Specular, white areas are shiny. In Roughness, black areas are shiniest. 


Perhaps this link in Blender exchange might help?

https://blender.stackexchange.com/questions/13600/how-to-add-a-specularity-map-in-cycles


hornet3d ( ) posted Fri, 20 October 2023 at 2:27 PM

Old content in this case the,  Sci-Fi Fighter Craft Cockpit by Simon 3-D, which I purchased in 2014 with materials to work to render better in Superfly.


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Y-Phil ( ) posted Fri, 20 October 2023 at 3:41 PM · edited Fri, 20 October 2023 at 3:43 PM

DeeceyArt posted at 12:04 PM Fri, 20 October 2023 - #4476549

Y-Phil posted at 2:00 AM Fri, 20 October 2023 - #4476532

DeeceyArt posted at 4:58 PM Thu, 19 October 2023 - #4476529

It's cool that the vascularity thread has inspired people to experiment with Poser's material layers. Loving it!  That looks great!

I have to say that I have difficulties to use efficiently PrincipledBSDF's specularity for the skin, I largely prefer a second skin with an AnisotropicBSDF, to the point that my toolbox has a dedicated function:

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I'm thinking Principled BSDF probably utilizes Roughness instead of Specular.   Roughness is sort of a combination of specular and gloss. In Specular, white areas are shiny. In Roughness, black areas are shiniest. 


Perhaps this link in Blender exchange might help?

https://blender.stackexchange.com/questions/13600/how-to-add-a-specularity-map-in-cycles

From what I've understood till now: indeed increasing the roughness tends to lower the "power" of the specular effect (not sure this is the right word) but I find the AnisotropicBsdf in the second layer is creating smoother effect, as if it was less concentrated on narrow place, compared to the specular effect.
Snce Poser13, I was back to using PBSDF's Specular, but since the last iteration, and since I don't use the legacy scatter, and I use the "Random Walk" os the SSS method, I prefer the Anisotropy node to the PBSDF's Specular.
And that was what I was using at the time of Poser12, the part of my toolbox devoted to this date from Poser12, precisely.
During a moment, on the second layer, I was even using the GlossyBsdf node, but I then preferred the AnisotropicBsdf

I'm by no way a specialist, I just like to experiment, more or less randomly depending on what I find online.

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RedPhantom ( ) posted Sat, 21 October 2023 at 7:53 AM · edited Sat, 21 October 2023 at 7:53 AM
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More experimenting with atmosphere.


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Y-Phil ( ) posted Sat, 21 October 2023 at 8:35 AM

RedPhantom posted at 7:53 AM Sat, 21 October 2023 - #4476577

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More experimenting with atmosphere.

Fantastic 0r32DxbRdSYZeiUAer79yx8WwKbPQBvVysIbYXNO.gif

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Thalek ( ) posted Mon, 23 October 2023 at 1:59 AM
Afrodite-Ohki posted at 10:31 AM Mon, 16 October 2023 - #4476347

LF2's feet have exactly the same bones as LF's - they're just as posable, the only difference is that LF2's shapes are more realistic than LF's ;)

[grin]  I sit corrected, then.  But more realism is certainly a nice touch.  :-)


RedPhantom ( ) posted Mon, 23 October 2023 at 7:43 AM
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Y-Phil posted at 8:35 AM Sat, 21 October 2023 - #4476580

RedPhantom posted at 7:53 AM Sat, 21 October 2023 - #4476577

More experimenting with atmosphere.

Fantastic 

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JanusJsenwark ( ) posted Tue, 24 October 2023 at 4:47 PM · edited Tue, 24 October 2023 at 4:47 PM

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Experimenting with my skinshader to get a very light skin tone. I used the skin color Pantone 38-8-C or the 78... series as a guide. With very light skin and skin with poor color, it can easily happen that unsightly dark zones appear. This doesn't happen with my shader settings... no idea why.

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JanusJsenwark ( ) posted Fri, 27 October 2023 at 1:12 AM

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Does anyone have an idea how to prevent the stripes on the legs and arms?

I've tried everything. Shadow smoothing, roughness etc.

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Y-Phil ( ) posted Fri, 27 October 2023 at 2:39 AM
Charly_99 posted at 1:12 AM Fri, 27 October 2023 - #4476877

Does anyone have an idea how to prevent the stripes on the legs and arms?

I've tried everything. Shadow smoothing, roughness etc.


Depending on what root node you are using and thus how to manage this, but I've seen similar effects using the common specular effect, whereas the anisotropy has a parameter to have smoother limits so that we avoid the stripes effect


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Afrodite-Ohki ( ) posted Fri, 27 October 2023 at 7:09 AM

Charly_99 posted at 1:12 AM Fri, 27 October 2023 - #4476877

Does anyone have an idea how to prevent the stripes on the legs and arms?

I've tried everything. Shadow smoothing, roughness etc.

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It's a limitation of the current renderer version (is happening with Cycles in Blender too, apparently).

You can get around it by increasing the render SubD in whatever prop/figure that's showing the lines :)

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JanusJsenwark ( ) posted Fri, 27 October 2023 at 9:45 PM

Thanks alot. I will try your suggestions...

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JanusJsenwark ( ) posted Fri, 27 October 2023 at 9:50 PM

In this case (Girl on sofa) I used the physical rendermode.


RedPhantom ( ) posted Mon, 30 October 2023 at 8:21 AM · edited Mon, 30 October 2023 at 8:21 AM
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More work with atmosphere and patchy fog


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Y-Phil ( ) posted Mon, 30 October 2023 at 11:05 AM · edited Mon, 30 October 2023 at 11:05 AM

RedPhantom posted at 8:21 AM Mon, 30 October 2023 - #4477020

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More work with atmosphere and patchy fog

Really cool scene WBPqfziU40IPelTDQpNHAb5apyh90rvkbXtnuU0v.gif

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thanks


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JanusJsenwark ( ) posted Tue, 31 October 2023 at 11:05 PM · edited Tue, 31 October 2023 at 11:05 PM

Never go into the forest alone...

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Charly_99 posted at 11:05 PM Tue, 31 October 2023 - #4477124

Never go into the forest alone...

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Wow... magic!

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RedPhantom ( ) posted Wed, 01 November 2023 at 8:13 AM
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Charly_99 posted at 11:05 PM Tue, 31 October 2023 - #4477124

Never go into the forest alone...


Very nice


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JanusJsenwark ( ) posted Wed, 01 November 2023 at 3:04 PM

Thanks.
And thanks Red Phantom for the inspiration.
As a fan of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, I put the mentally unstable Marvin in the scene. And I think he fits in quite well in the forest.


Thalek ( ) posted Fri, 03 November 2023 at 2:10 AM

When I saw the notice that the final version of Poser 13.1 had been released (version 13.1.518), I went and downloaded it.  And then, wanting to get to be at least  a little more than a dilettante in my old age, I decided to try the joys of creating dynamic hair.  With both the Poser manual open in front of me, and the Poser tutorial on using the hair room in the browser, I set forth.  I gave the Andy mannequin a Fu Manchu-style moustache figuring it was small and would involve 1-3 polygon groups, so it should be simple. 

Everything went wrong.  I couldn't get the two sides of the moustache to be symmetrical with identical settings.  The drooping portion of the left side was longer, thicker, and tilted at about a 45 degree  angle compared to the right side.  I never got a decent density on the upper lip group.  Twice, my grouping settings disappeared and I had to start over. I stopped using symmetrical settings and started fiddling with length, pull back, pull down, and pull sideways in an effort to get a visually similar image. That didn't work either.  And Poser crashed on three separate occasions, the latest while I was waiting for it to render another image of the 'stache.

Since my batting average on reporting bugs was pretty much zero this year,  I thought I would check to see if anyone else was experience similar problems before handing in a new bug report..

If anyone discovers they're having similar issues with the new version, I'll write it up.  Otherwise, I'll assume that either I or my computer are getting senile, which is not something the Service deptment can really fix.


JustBeCause ( ) posted Fri, 03 November 2023 at 5:10 AM

Thalek posted at 2:10 AM Fri, 3 November 2023 - #4477239

When I saw the notice that the final version of Poser 13.1 had been released (version 13.1.518), I went and downloaded it.  And then, wanting to get to be at least  a little more than a dilettante in my old age, I decided to try the joys of creating dynamic hair.  With both the Poser manual open in front of me, and the Poser tutorial on using the hair room in the browser, I set forth.  I gave the Andy mannequin a Fu Manchu-style moustache figuring it was small and would involve 1-3 polygon groups, so it should be simple. 

Everything went wrong.  I couldn't get the two sides of the moustache to be symmetrical with identical settings.  The drooping portion of the left side was longer, thicker, and tilted at about a 45 degree  angle compared to the right side.  I never got a decent density on the upper lip group.  Twice, my grouping settings disappeared and I had to start over. I stopped using symmetrical settings and started fiddling with length, pull back, pull down, and pull sideways in an effort to get a visually similar image. That didn't work either.  And Poser crashed on three separate occasions, the latest while I was waiting for it to render another image of the 'stache.

Since my batting average on reporting bugs was pretty much zero this year,  I thought I would check to see if anyone else was experience similar problems before handing in a new bug report..

If anyone discovers they're having similar issues with the new version, I'll write it up.  Otherwise, I'll assume that either I or my computer are getting senile, which is not something the Service deptment can really fix.

Not sure if it is something like this you are trying to make in the Hair room ?! Not really something common I am using, I could only make one render shot then also experiencing a Poser crash.

Just a very quick test in the Hair room ......

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I haven't used the hair room in a while except to touch up some old hair. May have to try something


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JustBeCause ( ) posted Fri, 03 November 2023 at 6:13 PM · edited Fri, 03 November 2023 at 6:17 PM

Passed some time enhancing the Fog Box and finally got it set up to work quiet well ....

Teaser of the Poser Godzilla that I just finished up, after a data drive crash that made me loose a whole lot of Models that I was working on the past few month.

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Thalek ( ) posted Fri, 03 November 2023 at 10:35 PM · edited Fri, 03 November 2023 at 10:42 PM
JustBeCause posted at 5:10 AM Fri, 3 November 2023 - #4477246

Thalek posted at 2:10 AM Fri, 3 November 2023 - #4477239

When I saw the notice that the final version of Poser 13.1 had been released (version 13.1.518), I went and downloaded it.  And then, wanting to get to be at least  a little more than a dilettante in my old age, I decided to try the joys of creating dynamic hair.  With both the Poser manual open in front of me, and the Poser tutorial on using the hair room in the browser, I set forth.  I gave the Andy mannequin a Fu Manchu-style moustache figuring it was small and would involve 1-3 polygon groups, so it should be simple. 

Everything went wrong.  I couldn't get the two sides of the moustache to be symmetrical with identical settings.  The drooping portion of the left side was longer, thicker, and tilted at about a 45 degree  angle compared to the right side.  I never got a decent density on the upper lip group.  Twice, my grouping settings disappeared and I had to start over. I stopped using symmetrical settings and started fiddling with length, pull back, pull down, and pull sideways in an effort to get a visually similar image. That didn't work either.  And Poser crashed on three separate occasions, the latest while I was waiting for it to render another image of the 'stache.

Since my batting average on reporting bugs was pretty much zero this year,  I thought I would check to see if anyone else was experience similar problems before handing in a new bug report..

If anyone discovers they're having similar issues with the new version, I'll write it up.  Otherwise, I'll assume that either I or my computer are getting senile, which is not something the Service deptment can really fix.

Not sure if it is something like this you are trying to make in the Hair room ?! Not really something common I am using, I could only make one render shot then also experiencing a Poser crash.

Just a very quick test in the Hair room ......

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That's a pretty close approximation of what I was attempting to do.  My design was slightly different, but probably not enough to matter for this discussion.  (I had created the upper lip, which was going to have shorter hair as one group, and the two side 'staches as separate groups to allow for longer, drooping hair.)  I wish I knew what I'd been doing wrong.  I may do more experiments tonight, if I'm in the mood to drive myself nuts.


Thalek ( ) posted Fri, 03 November 2023 at 10:37 PM · edited Fri, 03 November 2023 at 10:40 PM

RedPhantom posted at 8:02 AM Fri, 3 November 2023 - #4477252

I haven't used the hair room in a while except to touch up some old hair. May have to try something

If you choose to do so, let me know if your copy of the new version of Poser has any stability issues. Aside from my inexperience with the hair room, if the new version has stability issues, especially if they can be associated with a specific function I think the development team needs to know.  Especially as they are now going to start working on 13.2 instead of further work on 13.1. 

Thanks.


Thalek ( ) posted Fri, 03 November 2023 at 10:48 PM
JustBeCause posted at 6:13 PM Fri, 3 November 2023 - #4477275

Passed some time enhancing the Fog Box and finally got it set up to work quiet well ....

Teaser of the Poser Godzilla that I just finished up, after a data drive crash that made me loose a whole lot of Models that I was working on the past few month.

Sorry to hear about the data loss.  It's why, after a similar experience, I collected up all my installer files for everything I could recover, in case I had to deal with another crash someday.

The Fog Box is looking beautiful there.  I haven't played much with fog since I got Nerd3D's Fog Tool years ago, and an experience with Atmosphere when I created a Godzilla image of my own more than a decade ago.  (It's in my gallery as "Illuminatus". Not nearly as good as yours, but I liked the effect of the search lights at the time.)



JustBeCause ( ) posted Sat, 04 November 2023 at 7:20 AM

Thalek posted at 10:48 PM Fri, 3 November 2023 - #4477284

JustBeCause posted at 6:13 PM Fri, 3 November 2023 - #4477275

Passed some time enhancing the Fog Box and finally got it set up to work quiet well ....

Teaser of the Poser Godzilla that I just finished up, after a data drive crash that made me loose a whole lot of Models that I was working on the past few month.

Sorry to hear about the data loss.  It's why, after a similar experience, I collected up all my installer files for everything I could recover, in case I had to deal with another crash someday.

The Fog Box is looking beautiful there.  I haven't played much with fog since I got Nerd3D's Fog Tool years ago, and an experience with Atmosphere when I created a Godzilla image of my own more than a decade ago.  (It's in my gallery as "Illuminatus". Not nearly as good as yours, but I liked the effect of the search lights at the time.)


Matter of fact I backup everything I got 2 times or more, often I buy a new HD to make full backups every year especially for the 3D stuff. I never of thought loosing the work drive, this one can't be backed up as every day there are big changes and hooked up with all the temp, setup functions of 3D programs. A real add remove drive until as long as a project is not finished, then when done it gets moved to a drive and backed up. Something like this never happen in the past 20 years! 

Yes that Fog box can really be useful, I started making a sort of puppet master out of it. A morphing Atmosphere box, adding interactive master dials that will be also changing the animated enabled material node settings, this will ease up the effect you wish having for your renders. Now just waiting to see if Poser will get a fix for the render speed issues on the next update .....


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