If you are a PC memeber it should be at the bottom of "My account"

I like the UI but my first impression is that I would rather have a larger viewport. The camera tools don't need to be that large I think. Kinda like large print reading for the blind. Anyone else figure a way to change the palette sizes and locations?

'Kinda like large print reading for the blind' Well, after the crappy font in poser, anything will be a change for the better. LOL. Umm... I don't suppose you can change the font and size, can you? mac

Well...hell.... Is it gonna be available ONLY to PC members?? Sheesh I thought Santa had dropped an early present off. Gonna go play with my lump o coal. :-P

I broker there but never get any free stuff at the bottom of "My Account" area. Nothing that looks like Mazik's pic in the 2nd post. I dont even get the e-mails about this stuff. Maybe I should give them a little more time. I should be doing X-Mas stuff anyways.

lynnJonathan, It seems that the brokers will be getting it some time tomorrow. See Robert whisenant's message in the DS forum here or at DAZ. There are quite a few other brokers at the DAZ forum right now - all without a download. So you're not alone. I never have a downloads section in my account either. I'm hoping it will miraculously appear when I log on tomorrow. LOL. mac

OMG!! My husband and I are supposed to go over my sister's home for Chrismtas and I want to play!!

That should read Christmas...damn typos!

8:40am Christmas morning here in Ireland, and it's not in my account yet! SANTA!!!! You're late!!!!

You a PC member? SHould be there already

No! I have to go to my mums until tomorrow night! And it is only partly downloaded - as I am on a 2 hour time restricted dialup I will need a few goes! And then my dad will winge that he has to always ring me on my mobile coz i am 'on that bloody internet again' - actually I blame you guys for that! Merry Christmas everyone - and happy Studio playing to those of you who have it, and happy other Christmas activities to those of you who don't yet.

O goodieeee it's in my account now, it will take 2.5hours to dl on dialup - waiting patiently........ In the meantime HAPPY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!!! :D

"Looks good from what I see... but you do know that OpenGL has nothing to do with the spot rendering right? :) " Yaaa ... I never said it did have anything to do with it. Getting me confused with someone else maybe? :) -Tim

Oh man, I have to open gifts, I want to play...will wait till all leave...then I am off. Sharen

Another broker here, patiently waiting.... yeah right! Dave

It's too bad you have to be a "paying member" to help test it.

Wha!?! A "paying member"? Where did you read that? Dave

You've got to be a Plantinum Club member.

yeah that sucks

ming is right... but then again, D|S is still in the teething stages, and everybody learned from the 'who cares if it don't work - let's ship it anyway!' debacle that was Poser 5. They had to pick a small enough group to keep up with the public testing, so the Plat Club got picked. Trust me... there are days when I wish I could just wait for the finished item and not deal with the debugs :) /P

But brokers are part of the PC. Arent they included to get D|S? Dave

If this is a free item, could somebody just post it somewhere for others to try?

Dave - yes. The folks at DAZ' forums are aware of it and have been sending along word to the higher-ups about it. As soon as DAZ gets back to work, they'll set it up for the brokers. (If it's any consolation, the mods at DAZ Forum didn't get theirs either (evil grin).) /P

The brokers will be getting it soon ... Just a weird way they have to pforce the PC in place or something. As Peng said that rbtwhiz said they will get it today or tomorrow at the latest

ming .. Nope. It will be free for beta release soemtime later for all the public

Cathrine - sorry you feel sad and disappointed on Christmas morning... Me, I intend on getting out of the house come noon today and not even thinking about computers, let alone 3d proggies. Next year at this time, I'll have a slobbering 11-month-old baby crawling around the house (and prolly trying to eat the tree ornaments), so I'm rather enjoying this quiet morning while the missus sleeps in :) There is good news about D|S, though; it will come out for free once the bugs have been squashed. It isn't a trick at all, nor was it intended to be any such thing; it's more of a way to get a big enough control group of testers without flooding the code monkeys with requests. This is common with many programs, right up to Microsoft (who performs their alpha testing via a select group of MSDN affiliates.) As for Kazaa, anyone inclined to use such a thing for programs can takes their chances (viruses, trojans, etc), but it would prolly be a lot safer, and still free, if they just waited until the stable version of D|S comes out. The brokers will get hold of it tomorrow at most (as Ghost mentioned), but they get to hammer on bugs and crashes, too. /P

It's still Christmas morning in this time zone, but I just got word that they've working on it right now. Shouldn't be too long before you get an email... Matt is in up to his armpits holding the fort down right now. /P

I don't see where a control group would have anything to do with it. The more people testing, the better. I think it's just a money thing.

" I don't see where a control group would have anything to do with it. The more people testing, the better." Err, not if you're the programming team. They've only got so many code-monkeys, so it's easier to keep the bug reports down to Niagra Falls size, as opposed to the Biblical Flood proportions they'd face if everyone went at it. The only "money thing" is that DAZ can't afford the number of programmers required for a general public alpha... even Microsoft can barely afford something like that. The results will still cost nothing even after it gets out to the general public. I'm sorry it'll take some time, but the good news is, once you do get hold of it, it'll work far better (and have more features) than what the PC folks are wrestling with now. /P

yea yea we got already the url to download D|S you can find it in the Members Only forum at Daz3D the topic url is: http://forum.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?p=16530 This is for Pc club members, merchants, and Forum team members who might not have gotten the download yet . Cath

I am away from my personal PC's until next week!!!!!!! AARRRRGGGHHHHH!!!!!!

So, since you can't afford enough programers, you don't want to hear about all the problems...just some of them. It's not that I don't believe you. I just think it's the wrong way to do things.

I didn`t know microsoft even tested their products ha ha

Ah very bad, it show up also under all accounts btw.. they fixed it today! I tested some renders and I most say that the rendering is very quick, I rendered the first scene that was included with D|S in only 1 min and 1.20 sec with shadows and Depth of Field in standard not open GL rendering. No crash on XP here Cath

They test them...they just don't fix them! LOL

Ming, With all due respect you have little room to complain, you feel like the Plat club was a waste of money and DAZ stated early on that they would be early releasing DS to Plat club members. Personally, I have found the Plat Club to be a good deal, as have many others. It is very simple as to why Plat Club members are gettig the initial release, it is a benefit to being a member and asking someone to post it somewhere for others to try is unethical. BabaLouie

If they don`t put it out for "ordinary" people soon it will be on kazaa winmx and all the rest.

Ming Sez: " So, since you can't afford enough programers, you don't want to hear about all the problems...just some of them. " Not exactly. Dunno how much experience you have with program development, but every major commercial program out there that isn't Open Source does it the same way... release it to a small cadre of pre-alpha experienced testers to bang out the huge and obvious bugs (trust me, you really don't want to know how many times I've had to sit through a re-install of Windows XP just to re-create a clean environment during pre-alpha testing.) Then, it goes to a wider array of folks to get a larger sample of machinery to test it out on (which cures a wider variety of not-so-nasty bugs.) Finally, it goes out to the general public, where the smallest bugs can be finessed out. Now compare that with Poser 5*, where they were pressured by EGI-Sys to push a short beta-testing program, then out to the public at large. Take a cruise through the Poser 5-related complaint threads... and that was their "finished product." (this isn't a bag on CL since they were pressured to do it, but it goes to show what would happen if you had gotten what you wanted - a push to the public of a raw and unfinished proggie.) * again, this is not a bag on Curious Labs - read the whole paragraph plz :) Xantor sez: " I didnt know microsoft even tested their products ha ha*" You'd be surprised. I prefer Linux to anything made by Microsoft, but I can tell you that even MS takes quite a bit of time and effort to test their stuff before releasing it. Microsoft's problem isn't in testing and release of apps, it's in the basic structural flaws of the OS itself, IMHO. " *If they dont put it out for "ordinary" people soon it will be on kazaa winmx and all the rest." Sure... and folks who do such a stupid thing like download it from there take their chances with trojans, backdoors, and a zillion other ways for some 13-yr. old script kiddie to own their computers. Oh, and typical virus-catchers and firewalls aren't going to catch a lot of the backdoors and trojans that the person intentionally installs. Besides, a typical download off of kazaa, winmx, e-donkey/e-mule, etc takes about 10x as long as just straight-up downloading from the DAZ server. Even BitTorrent would take much longer, assuming someone actually bothered to seed an unstable alpha proggie in the first place... To those out there humming up Kazaa now? They're certainly welcome to try, of course (the proggie costs nothing anyway), but they won't get any sympathy from DAZ when their boxes becomes someone else's property, or it chokes to death and takes all the data with it (shrug.) /P

By the way I wasnt saying that it was a good thing thatstudio will be on kazaa etc. I was just pointing out what will probably happen although It wont actually do daz any real harm but Im sure they dont want it being distributed by anyone apart from themselves.

'It wont actually do daz any real harm' True, but not really the point. The point is that you do NOT want to encourage these leeches at kazaa, etc, in any way whatsoever. I agree with babalouie. We all knew DS would be given to PC members. If someone feels the PC is a waste of money, then they just have to wait a bit longer, is all. It's not like it's gonna cost you anything anyway. Well said, peng. mac

I wasnt encouraging them. I dont mind waiting for daz studio. As long as they don`t say A halloween treat for non pc members the studio is here to download now :)

Crashed it 3 times trying to load Shazam....but I can load the freak. Sharen