I uploaded a picture to the gallery and uploaded a thumbnail with no nudity... well, apparently the thumbnail was too big or something and it said that it generated one for me... so I got an e-mail from prutzworks @ renderosity.com saying that my thumbnail had nudity in it and that I could send him/her the right thumbnail... I e-mailed him/her back and said that my thumbnail did NOT have nudity in it, and I attached the thumbnail again... this was at 1:50 pm CST. I e-mailed again at 6:25 pm CST to make sure he/she got my last e-mail. I haven't heard anything at all... and my image is not back in my gallery! Obviously, it is not my fault that the thumbnail had nudity in it, when Renderosity generated it... so what am I supposed to do to get my image back in the gallery??

Steph

they should turn off the auto-thumbnail generator IMVHO. that thing is not a good idea, especially with the new policy.

It is stated in the new thumbnail guidelines that you can no longer rely on the auto thumb generator if your image contains nudity {the generator just makes a thumb of the full image}

If you do not want to crop out the nudity and make your own thumbnail, you can copy/save the 'advisory content' image that the generator uses, and use that as your thumbnail..but you must upload that, not the auto generator.

Image sizes for thumbs are as follows:

Minimum 100x 100 and Maximum 200 x 200 15 KB or less

You can mail me the thumb Unity, and I will get your image back in the gallery for you :)

I am sending it to you. Thanks!

Or you could always fix the thumbnail to fit the size or memory limits then click on edit button in between zoom in and remove button to upload the correct thumbnail. 

Probably easier than having to get them to release it back into the gallery since that option to use the generated thumbnails has been taken away

Got it back up for ya Steph Thanks!

@Argon Actually once an image is moved to holding, the member has no access to it, so self editing at that point is impossible.

Thanks... yeah, I couldn't see the image anywhere anymore! lol

Oh so that takes away even more options to fix it? It sure puts a lot more work on the mods then and a lot more delay in getting your image in the gallery. I'm sure it also takes away a lot of motivation to do those kind of images if all that extra effort is involved

Well, its not that much more work, its a learning and educating process right now..but we are trying to get to them as soon as we can..we send out the notice as soon as the image goes into the holding area, so hopefully images wont be held for too long...

And Im usually online when nobody else is LOL {Im a night owl} so everyone feel free to email me if you need any help getting a replacement thumb up ;)

Hi jumpstartme2,

  I have been wondering why no one has not mentioned the preview option to do any editing before uploading an image.

  I use this option all the time. It saves me from many spelling mistakes. I also use it to proof my thumbnail.
  I hate doing the math to get the most bytes for the thumbnail. I have had the preview fail me 2 times. Both before I read in this forum that the thumbnail part of the program had a glitch in it. That glitch was fixed within a day or two.

Well 2 hours in this thread and however long it took to start the thread from when the image was pulled, that's a lot more extra time than otherwise. 

I'm not sure how many would be willing to put in that extra time for a minor mistake when they could bypass it with more options available.

Preview option? I don't think I've ever used that, maybe I'll start now that mistakes are much more costly

Hmmm never really thought about the preview option..only problem with that is that if you preview your image without saving it, then it will float around out there till 2 am system time and you wont be able to upload again till then...

So if I previewed my image, and thumb, and the thumb wasn't what I wanted, and I just clicked out of it, the system would treat it as an upload anyway....

But, if you did save it and then you changed your mind, you can remove and re-upload

Good one VL, thanks for mentioning it

Well Argon, only reason it took me this long is that it just got called to my attention, as I wasn't the one handling this particular image. This isn't my regular forum, but I do try and pop in as much as I can {Im all over the place ~hehe~}

What options do you have ideas about? Swing 'em by us and we'll see what can be done. Maybe something, maybe nothing, but we'd love to hear your ideas...never know, implementations have been known to get done ;)

It's that lag time on when it's called to someones attention, depending on who's on duty it could be a lot longer

They didn't use the options they had to avoid the problem they just took away options on what thumbnails could be used, what images could be auto-generated and how you could edit them.

So the only other option is to give up doing images with nudity in them. There certainly seems to be more and more strong motivations to do so, that way you can bypass the limits on them and avoid any extra lag time. 

**jumpstart?

I have a question that is totally just out of curiousity concerning this subject. Actually, it's more like two questions.

If you upload a thumb with nudity in it, you get your image put in a holding space and a message about why. Do you also get a note put on your "record"?

Second question. If the thumb that has nudity came about because of the same situation unitychild had, do you still get that note on your record and, if so, will it state that it was the site's thumb generator that did it and not the person uploading?

I ask also because I have had my thumbs get generated. I check the size when I make it, but if I get it too close to the limit, it kicks it back at me and makes one. Last time it did that, I tried editing the thumb, but it wouldn't do it. It kept putting the generated thumb up. Even though I downsized the thumb twice. I gave up after that and let the generated thumb stay.**

@ Argon:

*It's that lag time on when it's called to someones attention, depending on who's on duty it could be a lot longer

Well, we're spread out all over the world ~LOL~..but there is usually someone online at all times, and if not, then someone comes online shortly. The way it works is that a mod or coord either gets a report about an image for whatever reason, or they come across it themselves, and they deal with that member, sometimes several members at one time..then there is the wait on the member to respond, so that also takes some time..it can take quite awhile thats true...

***They didn't use the options they had to avoid the problem they just took away options on what thumbnails could be used, what images could be auto-generated and how you could edit them.

*Actually, all the same options are there..the only thing that changed is what is allowed in the thumb. Some of the problems that I personally saw with the thumbs being auto generated, was sometimes a member would either forget to click the nudity tag, or I also saw {and experienced it myself} the content advisory tag getting changed accidentally by using a scroll wheel upon upload. {this latter I haven't see often, but I have seen it, and its happened to me once or twice}

When that happened, the thumb was auto generated with the nudity showing in the thumb..the way it is now, we dont really have that as a major worry..altho the images still have to be tagged.

***So the only other option is to give up doing images with nudity in them. There certainly seems to be more and more strong motivations to do so, that way you can bypass the limits on them and avoid any extra lag time.

• Well, I can't really say much about that. I know Stac has said that there are no plans to get rid of the nudity in images here at Rendo.

@Uni:

** ***If you upload a thumb with nudity in it, you get your image put in a holding space and a message about why. Do you also get a note put on your "record"?

***** ***Second question. If the thumb that has nudity came about because of the same situation unitychild had, do you still get that note on your record and, if so, will it state that it was the site's thumb generator that did it and not the person uploading?

*****Right now we are in the education phase of the new policy, so when you get a note requesting a replacement thumb, the only thing that goes on record is that a replacement was requested.

Mods and Coords review everything as a team, so if it turns out that a member did what they were supposed to do by uploading a non-nude thumb, and for whatever reason the system takes it over {like its too big} then the mods/coords will see the new thumb, and if its a full on image again, we would assume that the system generated it, and will communicate this to the member and in the review thread so everyone is on the same page.

The only time a warning would go out, is if the team began to see a repeated pattern of nude thumbs being uploaded by a member, and have been repeatedly requested to not upload them. ;)

The thumb limits are: 100 x 100 minimum and 200 x 200 maximum and no more than 15 kb {that 15 kb is the clincher sometimes}
If you are having problems getting thumbs to upload, just give one of us a yell and we'll get it working for ya, even if we need to upload it ourselves from this side ;)

**Thanks jumpstart. Fast reply and a very fair way of dealing with this situation.

Last time I had so much trouble with the thumb generator, I learned to "Save for Web" and they come out waaaaay under the file size limit now. grin**

Quote - no more than 15 kb {that 15 kb is the clincher sometimes} > Quote -

williamsn told me in a thread last summer or fall the bytes of 15 kilobytes is 15360 bytes.

Since I started using the bytes instead of the rounded up or down 15kb. I have not had a problem with that portion of the rules.

Hi
I seem to be having a similar problem.
I uploaded an image last night at about 8pm, (UK time). About an hour later I received a message saying there was nudity in the thumb, (there wasn't but I uploaded a new one anyway which was just a picture of her face.) At about 9.30pm I received an email saying this was OK and my image would be uploaded. That was 14hours ago and still nothing has happened.
If or when the image is eventually allowed will it be uploaded as if it's a new image so people will be able to view it or will it be buried.? If that is the case I may as well just delete it and upload again with the new thumb or at least I would if I could get at it to delete it.
Thankyou KK

I would have thought it would be possible that if the artist checks the nudity box, then IT knows to not generate a thumbnail, or even to automatically use the caution one if one isn't supplied.   It really should be that hard a change to the upload program? (Says a non programmer)

Karol, not sure what is going on with your image, but will find out for ya.

As for your question tho

Quote - If or when the image is eventually allowed will it be uploaded as if it's a new image so people will be able to view it or will it be buried.?

When the image is released back into the gallery, it will be released where it was uploaded..so if you uploaded on the 8th, it got put into holding on that same day, and say it was the 10th before it got released back out..then it would go to the 8th day time slot.

Think I'll stick to Fractals  : )

bummer about the delay. that would bury it about 10 or 20 pages back. :crying: and mind those fractals, don - make certain they're wearing trousers, and bob's yer uncle. :lol: