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Subject: Hey guys (Modelers) My first attempt at Pants. Woot!


SSAfam1 ( ) posted Fri, 17 April 2009 at 10:10 AM · edited Sat, 14 December 2024 at 2:51 AM

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What do you think?

According to the video (Bless JGreenlees' heart) I'm basically done. I'm supposed to fix the poke-through. I've gotten all of them... well except for that top piece in the front.

I imported at 500.00 so will export at .002

Also will hide the material as to not export MiL 3 with the pants...


SSAfam1 ( ) posted Fri, 17 April 2009 at 10:10 AM

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geep ( ) posted Fri, 17 April 2009 at 10:30 AM

Nice work.  Thanks for sharing the pix of your creation. 😄

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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SSAfam1 ( ) posted Fri, 17 April 2009 at 10:35 AM

Quote - Nice work.  Thanks for sharing the pix of your creation. 😄

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

Any suggestions?


geep ( ) posted Fri, 17 April 2009 at 10:39 AM

Suggestions? ...  from mois? ............. Nah, sorry, I don't have any expertise in that area. :biggrin:

Looks like Carara, no? :blink:

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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SSAfam1 ( ) posted Fri, 17 April 2009 at 10:40 AM · edited Fri, 17 April 2009 at 10:41 AM

Geep I'll be calling on you when I want to rig. Hehe

I believe you did a thread awhile back titled, "Bones, bones, bones"

I want to add folds to the clothing. I believe to fix the top of the pants I have to add an edge. I'm looking over the video again to find out how to do so.


SSAfam1 ( ) posted Fri, 17 April 2009 at 10:42 AM · edited Fri, 17 April 2009 at 10:42 AM

Quote - Suggestions? ...  from mois? ............. Nah, sorry, I don't have any expertise in that area. :biggrin:

Looks like Carara, no? :blink:

Oh I thought you knew how to model. Oops.

Actually it's Hexagon. Bought it like 2 days ago. I love it!


geep ( ) posted Fri, 17 April 2009 at 10:50 AM

Da NSG had a Hex ....... but he lost it and now ...........  da Hex-a-gon. 😄

Yes, I do modeling but I don't like to advertise it 'cuz, well, just 'cuz, ok?  ... ::b_cool:

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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SSAfam1 ( ) posted Fri, 17 April 2009 at 10:54 AM

Quote - Da NSG had a Hex ....... but he lost it and now ...........  da Hex-a-gon. 😄

Yes, I do modeling but I don't like to advertise it 'cuz, well, just 'cuz, ok?  ... ::b_cool:

LOL ok. We'll keep it on the hush. Shhhh 😉


SSAfam1 ( ) posted Fri, 17 April 2009 at 10:55 AM

If I wanted to make this conforming clothing, I'd have to buy PhilC's OBJ2CR2 right? No other way?


geep ( ) posted Fri, 17 April 2009 at 11:40 AM · edited Fri, 17 April 2009 at 11:41 AM

Perhaps, but that's probably the best way. 😄

PhilC ????  You here? :blink:

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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TrekkieGrrrl ( ) posted Fri, 17 April 2009 at 1:42 PM

 There's several other ways to make thngs conforming. But PhilC's is the one I would recommend anytime. I have several other programs that can create conforming clothes, but none of them as easily as Obj2Cr2.

I would suggest a taper at the top, they're very straight up and down at the moment. For the folds, I'd cheat and run it through the cloth room with a good lining constrained as to keep them from falling off L

Other than that? Perhaps extrude a single row of polygons along the leg to make a seam, but that's optional. You can do all that with displacement maps really.

Very nice first pants. I'd like to know how you started? And how you got  the neat loops on the bum?

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SSAfam1 ( ) posted Fri, 17 April 2009 at 3:04 PM · edited Fri, 17 April 2009 at 3:15 PM

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Ok I'll get Phil's tool for conforming clothes.

I brought the top edges in as suggested.

Hmm, as far as the bum, other than smoothing...the only other thing I did was to select more than one vertical line (started from one side and went to the other) then Vertex Modeling---->Connect.

I'm following the video Pants tutorial by JGreenlees. Wonderful tut!

Trekkkiegrl---I can UV map in Hex? I won't need UVMapper? Is it easier?


SSAfam1 ( ) posted Fri, 17 April 2009 at 5:09 PM · edited Fri, 17 April 2009 at 5:18 PM

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Wow I was looking over a UV mapping tutorial. My, that selecting all the lines on one side stuff is tedious.

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SSAfam1 ( ) posted Fri, 17 April 2009 at 5:17 PM

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Pants Post-worked. Hehe.


markschum ( ) posted Fri, 17 April 2009 at 5:19 PM

Very nice , the only qustion I have is at the waist in the first picture  about where the red arrow is the mesh goes a bit wonky. Is that deliberate or did it just happen ?


SSAfam1 ( ) posted Fri, 17 April 2009 at 5:25 PM · edited Fri, 17 April 2009 at 5:28 PM

Quote -
Very nice , the only qustion I have is at the waist in the first picture  about where the red arrow is the mesh goes a bit wonky. Is that deliberate or did it just happen ?

Thanks! That was so NOT deliberate. LOL


SSAfam1 ( ) posted Fri, 17 April 2009 at 5:43 PM

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More post-work.


vincebagna ( ) posted Fri, 17 April 2009 at 5:46 PM

Very nice start indeed! :)
Now you're going into modeling, you won't go back, trust me ;)

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Anniebel ( ) posted Fri, 17 April 2009 at 6:16 PM

Very nice, well done. I have hardly opened mine.

Where is the tutorial you mentioned?

Thanks

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SSAfam1 ( ) posted Fri, 17 April 2009 at 6:21 PM

Quote - Very nice start indeed! :)
Now you're going into modeling, you won't go back, trust me ;)

Thank You.

I sure won't! I'd love to model the "post-worked" blue jeans...fully. With pocket folds and everything. I don't see a lot of loose fitting jeans around.


SSAfam1 ( ) posted Fri, 17 April 2009 at 6:28 PM · edited Fri, 17 April 2009 at 6:35 PM

Quote - Very nice, well done. I have hardly opened mine.

Where is the tutorial you mentioned?

Thanks

Hiya Anniebel!

Here ya go. Great tut! No way anyone can mess up following the simple steps in the video.

Modelling Pants (See post 2)
poserpros.daz3d.com/forums/viewtopic.php

Here's another one of hers:

Modelling A Simple Dress (Second Post from the bottom)
poserpros.daz3d.com/forums/viewtopic.php


Anniebel ( ) posted Sat, 18 April 2009 at 1:33 AM

Thanks for those.

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Diogenes ( ) posted Sat, 18 April 2009 at 2:24 AM

Looking good, and thanks for the tut link. I would give advice but I have never made any clothes myself.  Looks like you're doing a good job to me.

cheers,

Mike.


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DarkEdge ( ) posted Sat, 18 April 2009 at 8:13 AM · edited Sat, 18 April 2009 at 8:17 AM

What modeling advice are you wanting specifically?
I read something about poke throughs so I'll comment on that.

You need to be aware of the areas that are going to give you poke throughs while you are modeling, so you either adjust while modeling or apply a modifier/tool/etc that will expand your model to a safe distance from the figure...or go around and adjust by hand.
I would also grab the loop around the knee, turn on a soft selection and slightly contract those loops so the legs aren't perfectly straight.

Modeling is a learning curve. You want to know ahead of time where your trouble areas are, unfortunately you won't know that until you start modeling and making things, converting them into figures and trying them out.
Phil tool works, or just break your model up in your app and name correcrtly (lShin, rThigh, etc).
Every 3d app is different but they basically all do the same thing. You really need to explore your tools/modifiers/etc to know what each little crazy thing does to alter areas that are troublesome. It might be well worth your time to purchase a tutorial on your program and watch a pro as he/she works, this is where you will start to pick up on the small details.
You'll want to start adding extra loops around joint areas (knees, elbow,etc) to help with bending too, like you did in the groin area.

Looks great and keep up the good work.

Comitted to excellence through art.


SSAfam1 ( ) posted Sat, 18 April 2009 at 11:33 AM · edited Sat, 18 April 2009 at 11:34 AM

Thanks for the advice DarkEdge. That's exactly what's missing---the loops around the Knees. Not quite sure as of yet how to do those and folds. You said I did it above. I don't know which step that was. I basically either molded a shape with all my arrows (Manipulation tools) or selected lines then connected them.

From modeling to conform what are the steps?

Am I right in thinking this?

1.)Model the clothes
2.)UV map the clothes
3.)Rig the clothes
4.)Make the CR2
5.)Texture the clothes

A five part process? In that order?


DarkEdge ( ) posted Sat, 18 April 2009 at 11:46 AM

Adding loops and/or edges can be done in any app, you just need to figure out how and where that is in your app. 😄

Your steps are just fine for creating clothes. My process is very simular, I save textures for the very end after all rigging is done and everything works in Poser just fine.

Good luck! 😉

Comitted to excellence through art.


markschum ( ) posted Sat, 18 April 2009 at 12:13 PM

To create loops you need to look at spinquad.  It requires two adjacent polygons selected.  Its easier to try it than explain   :)

You can make a blank cr2 to use as the donor , then you dont need to rig at all. Just group your geometry and replace the obj file in the Blank cr2 with your geometry file name.   

You could clean up the top bit by some careful deletions and welds , but since its working move on .


SSAfam1 ( ) posted Sat, 18 April 2009 at 12:24 PM · edited Sat, 18 April 2009 at 12:27 PM

Thanks.

Yeah I'm going to play around with this. I already know the steps to making pants (without having to watch the video) because I've played it so much. I'm going to try googling some things too.

I looked in the Hexagon forum over at Daz and it doesn't seem that alive. I'll post some inquiries over there too. I'm so used to asking and getting responses over here.


TrekkieGrrrl ( ) posted Sat, 18 April 2009 at 5:43 PM

Quote - To create loops you need to look at spinquad.  It requires two adjacent polygons selected.  Its easier to try it than explain   :)

What/where's "spinquad"? I looked in my hexagon and I can't find anything named that. But perhaps I'm looking the wrong place?

This is how I'd do an extra set of vertices (don't mind the "pants" they were some I just whipped up from a box to show what I mean...)

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SSAfam1 ( ) posted Sat, 18 April 2009 at 5:51 PM

Thanks Trekkkigirl!

I googled Spinquad and got a Lightwave forum.

Let me go try this out and post my results.

Brb.


SSAfam1 ( ) posted Sat, 18 April 2009 at 6:22 PM · edited Sat, 18 April 2009 at 6:27 PM

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I think it looks waaaaaay better now. What do you think? It needs those creases in the groin area. How is that done?

Thanks so much.

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SSAfam1 ( ) posted Sat, 18 April 2009 at 6:41 PM

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Creases like these.


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