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Subject: Musicvideo animated by Poser 8


FrancisChopin ( ) posted Fri, 01 July 2011 at 1:54 PM · edited Thu, 21 November 2024 at 3:52 PM

You can see the musicvideo here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76BDi3mblr4

 

Best wishes, Francis


tebop ( ) posted Fri, 01 July 2011 at 3:00 PM

Im sorry but that is not very good.

you have the camera focusing on the same thing all the time, and there's not even any animation. The only reason looking at a singer in real life is not boring, is cause humans have alot of muscles and random motion happening.

 

But this is just boring.


FrancisChopin ( ) posted Fri, 01 July 2011 at 4:19 PM

Dear tebob,

I thank you for your reply. I am a beginner in poser, this is my second animation. Perhaps you know good music animations made ​​with poser as examples for me. 

Sorry for my bad english, I am from germany.

Best wishes, Francis


TheOwl ( ) posted Fri, 01 July 2011 at 6:03 PM · edited Fri, 01 July 2011 at 6:17 PM

Attached Link: http://img812.imageshack.us/i/m0s.mp4/

Here is my style of making poser animations using hand key frames. It might help. Its a little difficult in the beginning to make them since you are just starting. But think about the fulfillment you will get once you got it on the right places.

I began with this:

 

http://youtu.be/FJyBZ6_P334

Then this is late:

http://youtu.be/z4n69sG8xno

 

Still improving! I am working on a new one and this time its going to be much much better with less errors which I have learned to fix from the music video.

Passion is anger and love combined. So if it looks angry, give it some love!


fivecat ( ) posted Fri, 01 July 2011 at 8:15 PM

Francis, actually that is pretty good for a second try. I enjoy the surreal quality to it, with the giant clock and the men moving past in the background. I laughed when the beetle came out of the van. Giving more life to the singer will help in future animations (facial expressions, body movement) as will changing the background and camera angle. I think creating an animation like this gives you an appreciation of what skills are required of a movie/music video director. Keep at it, and don't let certain people who do not create but only criticize get in your way!


TheOwl ( ) posted Sat, 02 July 2011 at 12:00 AM

Quote - Keep at it, and don't let certain people who do not create but only criticize get in your way!

 

Ooooow! :D 

Passion is anger and love combined. So if it looks angry, give it some love!


fivecat ( ) posted Sat, 02 July 2011 at 12:09 AM

Quote - > Quote - Keep at it, and don't let certain people who do not create but only criticize get in your way!

 

Ooooow! :D 

You know I wasn't talking about you, owl.


SteveJax ( ) posted Sat, 02 July 2011 at 2:01 AM · edited Sat, 02 July 2011 at 2:08 AM

Quote - Im sorry but that is not very good.

you have the camera focusing on the same thing all the time, and there's not even any animation. The only reason looking at a singer in real life is not boring, is cause humans have alot of muscles and random motion happening.

But this is just boring.

 

Put Up or Shut Up! There's plenty of animation going on considering this is Francis's second animation! I would like to see what you have to offer! I liked the fact that there's a lot going on in the background behind the singer. So what if it's not perfect.  

Francis, just keep learning and keep doing what you're doing. You'll get there soon enough. Ignore those who have nothing enlightening to say.  I really enjoyed the background animation of the bike rider and the guy running around in the background. I actually chuckled when the bike went by behind her. The guy walking into the clock and knocking himself out was funny too!

 

That ambulance driven by the carrion beatle and seeing it eat the guy who knocked himself out was silly/creepy.


FrancisChopin ( ) posted Sat, 02 July 2011 at 2:06 AM

Dear tebop, TheOwl and fivecat, I thank you all for your reply and kindly words. 

Anner-knowing but also critical words are a great help  for every new

animator.

Yes, it is a hard work to make an animation. I do not know, how I can

automate camera changes in poser for example. In the new

project I think I must make movies with several different camera

angles and then cut them in a program like Premiere.

In my first musicvideo i gave Emilias facial expressions more attention.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUU87h9j0sM

Thank you all, Francis


FrancisChopin ( ) posted Sat, 02 July 2011 at 2:10 AM

Dear TheOwl,

 

your musicvideo on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4n69sG8xno&feature=youtu.be

is really great. I love it, Francis


ghonma ( ) posted Sat, 02 July 2011 at 8:58 AM

Definitely agree with 'so surreal its good'. You have a singular gift for this sort of thing and all you need to do is improve your technical skill and you'll be doing very awesome stuff soon enough. Keep it up and can't wait to see more !

And yes that bike dude has issues :p


TheOwl ( ) posted Sat, 02 July 2011 at 9:08 AM

Quote - Dear TheOwl,

 

your musicvideo on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4n69sG8xno&feature=youtu.be

is really great. I love it, Francis

 

Do these vids when you are IN LOVE. It helps alot lol!

Passion is anger and love combined. So if it looks angry, give it some love!


MikeMoss ( ) posted Sat, 02 July 2011 at 12:26 PM · edited Sat, 02 July 2011 at 12:30 PM

Hi

The one thing that I would suggest as you go forward with you animation is remember that people never stand still, as you advance in skills you will learn to make the body move, sway, and rotate a little even when standing still.

But I have to say that was a very good video for you second try.

You are getting the feel of it.

I've never done a character getting out of a car, congrats.

To Owl.

Love your music video.

I'm a newb at the poser animation thing too, though I used to do animation for TV commercials back in the 16 mm days, with an animation stand and cells. I did the artwork and the film work when I worked for a large ad agency.

I'm really having a blast getting into animating in Poser.

Mike

If you shoot a mime, do you need a silencer?


tebop ( ) posted Sat, 02 July 2011 at 9:09 PM

i would like to make music videos but i'm lazy :(

 

How do i get some inspiration so that i can do it like i used to do it before?

 


oldgreycat ( ) posted Sun, 03 July 2011 at 11:28 AM

That's good for a 2nd try. Don't let criticism get you down. One thing I would say is think in terms of actual music videos and/or TVs and movies - long stationary shots, etc., are the exception to the rule. Render the same scene from diff. angles, long shots, close ups, etc., then use your video editor to put together one scene.

Here's one I did recently - http://youtu.be/A93N0GST4zE. Had talk-designer problems and lip-sync issues, but it came out okay. Same movement (or lack thereof) issues as you, too.


moriador ( ) posted Sun, 03 July 2011 at 1:21 PM · edited Sun, 03 July 2011 at 1:25 PM

Quote - i would like to make music videos but i'm lazy :(

 

How do i get some inspiration so that i can do it like i used to do it before?

 

 

This is the big mistake unproductive people make. They think that FIRST they should get inspired to do something, and THEN they'll start doing it.

Life isn't like that. FIRST, you start doing something. THEN, as a result of your doing something, you become inspired to continue.

If you are incapable of taking the first step, you might as well pick a new hobby because this one isn't interesting enough for you.

 

And FrancisChopin, I think you've done very well for a second try. Yes, the realism and details of the movements needs work. You'll get that with practice. What stands out as excellent: that you had the concentration and focus to make a whole video (wow!), and that your sense of the surreal is fantastic.


PoserPro 2014, PS CS5.5 Ext, Nikon D300. Win 8, i7-4770 @ 3.4 GHz, AMD Radeon 8570, 12 GB RAM.


Miss Nancy ( ) posted Sun, 03 July 2011 at 1:26 PM

the question would be: why is it not o.k. for tebop/joster (who has actually posted some poser preview vids here) to criticise a fellow vid artist, but it is o.k. to criticise tebop for trying to give criticism?  the problem with poser users is that if they never get criticism, they're just gonna keep grinding out nostril-glow renders of poorly-lit empty scenes with maybe a nude boy or girl in them.



fivecat ( ) posted Sun, 03 July 2011 at 1:47 PM · edited Sun, 03 July 2011 at 1:53 PM

"the question would be: why is it not o.k. for tebop/joster (who has actually posted some poser preview vids here) to criticise a fellow vid artist, but it is o.k. to criticise tebop for trying to give criticism? the problem with poser users is that if they never get criticism, they're just gonna keep grinding out nostril-glow renders of poorly-lit empty scenes with maybe a nude boy or girl in them." Because we are free to criticize. If you post an opinion, people are free to comment on that opinion. Is this confusing to you?


FrancisChopin ( ) posted Sun, 03 July 2011 at 2:01 PM · edited Sun, 03 July 2011 at 2:05 PM

Dear oldgreycat, your musicvideo on http://youtu.be/A93N0GST4zE

is a really good work. 

In my third musicvideo for "Princess Emilia & Rainer", I will work with different scenes

and with different camera positions, and cut them together in a software like Adobe

Premiere. 

Dear moriader, many thanks for your kindly reply, the surrealism is inspired by the music  from Princess Emilia and the composer and producer Rainer. 

On

 http://www.myspace.com/princessemiliarecords

we can see a picture from Emilia, and we worked hard in Poser to realise her face and

her body. 

Sorry for my bad english, I´m from germany. Best wishes, Francis


FrancisChopin ( ) posted Sun, 03 July 2011 at 2:07 PM

Dear fivecat, many thanks for your kindly replies, Francis.


fivecat ( ) posted Sun, 03 July 2011 at 2:14 PM

Quote - Dear fivecat, many thanks for your kindly replies, Francis.

Thank you for posting your animnations. I'm sorry for posting something that takes attention away from your work.


NolosQuinn ( ) posted Mon, 04 July 2011 at 12:35 PM

Attached Link: Crime Costs (Fall of Casal) Music Video

Well, here's one I did using Moviestorm, Poser and Daz Studio. Warning, may contain what some consider harsh language.

Nolos.

'I'm paying for this movie. I want guns'



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