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Subject: Reality Render thread. A new beginning.


Arumbus ( ) posted Sun, 29 July 2012 at 2:38 AM · edited Sun, 29 July 2012 at 2:40 AM

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My second Reality render.  Did a B&W (because I like them) tried for a chemical finish(silver) - like film instead of digital.  I am not disatisfied. In any case:

 

Let me know what you think.

 

Rick


Xandi ( ) posted Sun, 29 July 2012 at 3:09 AM

I think your flapper is just peachy!  The bee's knees.  I've always loved black and white.  You did a great job on this, looks terrific!


Doctorjellybean ( ) posted Sun, 29 July 2012 at 5:32 AM · edited Sun, 29 July 2012 at 5:32 AM
Reggie68 ( ) posted Sun, 29 July 2012 at 6:48 AM

Quote - I wonder if this would work in Reality:

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/sy-waters-for-daz-studio/94426#

IMO, Morphs would work though water shaders wouldn't. Ground plane properties may need some fiddling with.


59Burst ( ) posted Sun, 29 July 2012 at 7:08 AM

Arumbus, great pose and great outfit.  And yes, B&W is definitely the right choice.  The only thing that I'd like to see is a version with a short depth of field, which would blur the background a bit and make her "pop" a bit more.  Anyway, nice job.


Surreal3D ( ) posted Sun, 29 July 2012 at 7:44 AM

Quote - @Surreal3D

The soap suds add to the image. The lowest part of the drip down her cheek seems to be too dark.  You may want to consider loosing that part.  Don't get me wrong. I think you have done a wonderful job.

 

Thanks for the feedback. I decided to adjust the drip and keep it in the render.

 

Soap

 

Xandi, for the soap suds, I created the geomtry in zBrush and used a soap suds brush from a set of photoshop brushes called "Rons Suds" to create an alpha map with Gimp.

I posted a sample of one of the images here.

 


Pret-a-3D ( ) posted Sun, 29 July 2012 at 9:43 AM

Quote - I wonder if this would work in Reality:

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/sy-waters-for-daz-studio/94426#

The water planes should be just fine as long as you change the Reality material to WTer. The shaders are irrelevant, the water material will lead to a more realistic result.

Cheers 

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Reggie68 ( ) posted Sun, 29 July 2012 at 10:19 AM

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Another one for the family album.


john3d ( ) posted Sun, 29 July 2012 at 12:57 PM · edited Sun, 29 July 2012 at 1:00 PM

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Sorry for the lack of clothing, I need to make time to install my DS content.

Many thanks to Amethst25 for the floor & wall lamp reference images.

Can someone please volenteer to test this light set for us :)


Doctorjellybean ( ) posted Sun, 29 July 2012 at 1:10 PM

Nice render John!

The sooner someone volunteers and test, the sooner we get it :)

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Arumbus ( ) posted Sun, 29 July 2012 at 1:45 PM

 

@Reggie68 very nice render


Xandi ( ) posted Sun, 29 July 2012 at 2:59 PM

"Xandi, for the soap suds, I created the geomtry in zBrush and used a soap suds brush from a set of photoshop brushes called "Rons Suds" to create an alpha map with Gimp."

 

What do you mean by geometry? You created a shape to use? 


Xandi ( ) posted Sun, 29 July 2012 at 3:01 PM

Those lamps are gorgeous. I'd happily test them if I knew how.  I'm still such a newb.


Surreal3D ( ) posted Sun, 29 July 2012 at 4:01 PM

Quote - "Xandi, for the soap suds, I created the geomtry in zBrush and used a soap suds brush from a set of photoshop brushes called "Rons Suds" to create an alpha map with Gimp."

 

What do you mean by geometry? You created a shape to use? 

Yep. I made shapes for the suds and the drops of water.


Amethst25 ( ) posted Sun, 29 July 2012 at 6:19 PM

Quote - Sorry for the lack of clothing, I need to make time to install my DS content.

Many thanks to Amethst25 for the floor & wall lamp reference images.

Can someone please volenteer to test this light set for us :)

 

Great render John,  I'd love to help test them out!

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bobvan ( ) posted Sun, 29 July 2012 at 11:17 PM

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Tiny woman having a hot bath


Reggie68 ( ) posted Mon, 30 July 2012 at 2:17 AM

Quote - Tiny woman having a hot bath

Or:

Normal sized woman in very large bowl.


Doctorjellybean ( ) posted Mon, 30 July 2012 at 4:30 AM

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I've Got The Music In Me (Kiki Dee)

Ain't got no trouble in my life,
No foolish dream to make me cry.
I'm never frightened or worried,
I know I'll always get by.
I heat up (I heat up)
I cool down (I cool down)
When something gets in my way I go round it.
Don't let life get me down
Gonna take life the way that I found it.

This render was a bit of a challenge. I wanted her looking out of the window at some nice scenery. The scenery also had to provide the main light, being daytime. So I used an IBL (from hdrlabs). I also wanted the effect of sunlight streaming through the window. The IBL couldn't provide that, as cranking up the output washes out the background. So I added a sun, and set the direction of the sunlight the same as the IBL light. As the sun is a powerful light, it obliterates the IBL light. Therefore, I changed the Sky setting in Reality to the lowest setting I could: 0.0001. The IBL setting in Reality was bumped up to 2. Then, in LuxRender, I changed the sun parameter to 0.000200. Lastly, with the IBL and sun coming through the window, the inside of the house was a little dark. It didn't look as if there was daylight coming through the back windows. A meshlight was therefore added, and placed to the left of the scene. For that I used the Daylight preset, and turned the power down to 10.

I think it all worked out quite well.

Oh, and the leopard. It is the bodyguard.

I also rendered a DOF version. You choose which one you like best :)

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Doctorjellybean ( ) posted Mon, 30 July 2012 at 6:27 AM

I forgot to thank John for the music sheet prop used in the above render, as well making the notes prop on the wall Reality friendly. Thank you John, it is much appreciated!

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Xase ( ) posted Mon, 30 July 2012 at 7:59 AM

Quote - > Quote -  

Well, two names popped out at me after seeing and reading the description...

Smart, bald and a villian? Lex

Villianous bastard dressed in period looking clothing? Moriarity..or Morry for short.

I like your thinking, but perhaps names that haven't been used as other characters :-)

Edit: New promo image in the works. I made some drastic changes to the original character design and associated maps. Note, that glow is not from a mesh light or conversion to one

 

 

Ok...although finding a name that hasn't also been a character is going to be tough.  Blomph just doesn't roll off the tongue :)

So I propose Max, or for the TLA people in the crowd M.A.V (Machine Aided Villian)


bobvan ( ) posted Mon, 30 July 2012 at 10:22 AM

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> Quote - > Quote - Tiny woman having a hot bath > > Or: > > Normal sized woman in very large bowl.

LOL no they are tiny wimin..Killer render Anton...

 


Reggie68 ( ) posted Mon, 30 July 2012 at 12:45 PM

Isn't it a LOTG render not

"Tiny People In A Normal Sized Land"


bobvan ( ) posted Mon, 30 July 2012 at 1:22 PM · edited Mon, 30 July 2012 at 1:28 PM

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> Quote - Isn't it a LOTG render not > > "Tiny People In A Normal Sized Land"

 

Indeed Reggie Indeed!  Most times you have nasty giants but every so often there is a good one... Funny thing is the opposite "Fetish" or fascination to tiny wimin are giant ones. Last night my wife was watching strange sex on TLC and they had the giantess fetish. Being in the size fetish thing, I know the producer from seeing each other's work and being mutual fans.  Turns out he's a millionaire making and selling his clips. His dad builds his sets! As far as I am from having the skills of Mike Doc Anton or Charley I am one of the tops in my field LOL!


bobvan ( ) posted Mon, 30 July 2012 at 2:15 PM

OT Reg I was using Penny aka Susan in a commish project in the early days. Obviously not a Reality render http://fav.me/d38xp2q


erik-nl ( ) posted Mon, 30 July 2012 at 3:35 PM

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Just started a test render with the camera half above/half under water inside a glass container.

Parenting the container to the camera sadly didn't work because it didn't show up (like the camera) in Reality's materials list.

Still too early to tell if it indeed works for the under water bit, but at least there is an image forming : )

I'll replace it tomorrow morning after a good night's worth of number crunching.

 

 

Cheers!


Reggie68 ( ) posted Mon, 30 July 2012 at 4:00 PM

Quote - OT Reg I was using Penny aka Susan in a commish project in the early days. Obviously not a Reality render http://fav.me/d38xp2q

Only one Penny!

Before you say anything more, remember she's from Texas and has a gun!


bobvan ( ) posted Mon, 30 July 2012 at 4:02 PM

Quote - > Quote - OT Reg I was using Penny aka Susan in a commish project in the early days. Obviously not a Reality render http://fav.me/d38xp2q

Only one Penny!

Before you say anything more, remember she's from Texas and has a gun!

 

LOL Reggie! BTW there was new weekly build of lux on the 18th...


bobvan ( ) posted Mon, 30 July 2012 at 6:53 PM · edited Mon, 30 July 2012 at 7:05 PM

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Hop on perhaps some of you can think of them as wingless pixies..


Sharkbytes-BamaScans ( ) posted Mon, 30 July 2012 at 7:11 PM

Quote -  

This render was a bit of a challenge. I wanted her looking out of the window at some nice scenery. The scenery also had to provide the main light, being daytime. So I used an IBL (from hdrlabs). I also wanted the effect of sunlight streaming through the window. The IBL couldn't provide that, as cranking up the output washes out the background. So I added a sun, and set the direction of the sunlight the same as the IBL light. As the sun is a powerful light, it obliterates the IBL light. Therefore, I changed the Sky setting in Reality to the lowest setting I could: 0.0001. The IBL setting in Reality was bumped up to 2. Then, in LuxRender, I changed the sun parameter to 0.000200. Lastly, with the IBL and sun coming through the window, the inside of the house was a little dark. It didn't look as if there was daylight coming through the back windows. A meshlight was therefore added, and placed to the left of the scene. For that I used the Daylight preset, and turned the power down to 10.

I think it all worked out quite well.

Oh, and the leopard. It is the bodyguard.

I also rendered a DOF version. You choose which one you like best :)

 

Looks like the Malibu Overlook ibl set from hdrlabs.  One thing.. for getting the light to stream through the window, could the light portal prop have focused the light more easily to get the effect you were looking for?  Add in the fog prop with it's settings set real low to make some of the dust particles that are naturally visible in all well-lit air?


superboomturbo ( ) posted Mon, 30 July 2012 at 9:11 PM

Quote - Just started a test render with the camera half above/half under water inside a glass container.

Parenting the container to the camera sadly didn't work because it didn't show up (like the camera) in Reality's materials list.

Still too early to tell if it indeed works for the under water bit, but at least there is an image forming : )

I'll replace it tomorrow morning after a good night's worth of number crunching.

 

 

Cheers!

 

I've noticed the same, where any item parented to a camera disappears from the mat list entirely (I suspect because a camera is not a material anyway and has no physical identity where lux is concerned). I do this for lights, where I move them while parented to a camera, then unparent when I get them into position. And name them, of course.

Still curious how this will play out. Good luck!

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superboomturbo ( ) posted Mon, 30 July 2012 at 9:20 PM

Quote - Looks like the Malibu Overlook ibl set from hdrlabs.  One thing.. for getting the light to stream through the window, could the light portal prop have focused the light more easily to get the effect you were looking for?  Add in the fog prop with it's settings set real low to make some of the dust particles that are naturally visible in all well-lit air?

Paolo can answer the light portal query, assuming siggraph is wrapped up. I've never used them to be honest, but they do have an entry in the RUG.

The fog prop for dust does have some merit, as I recently used just such an effect for my city image. My main qualm however was that even at 1 and 1 (the values, respectively), I got a balmy 11ks/s in render speed, about a tenth of even my massive scenes using just a mesh and an ibl. It would have taken an entire week, 24/7 of rendering to get it to an acceptable quality level.

BTW Anton, I know I'm biased towards mostly non-DOF images, but your non-DOF version has just enough blur in the background to make me prefer it over the DOF version. On that note, it becomes a matter of how large your set is and how much of the background details you don't mind losing. I've really been paying attention to how this is done in movies the last month or so, and the likeness between Lux's behavior and a movie camera is utterly uncanny. The Dark Knight has been my muse as of late, where Batman's eyes go nearly black in scene lighting, and wide shots with city scenes have no perceptable DOF, while two figure scenes look like a typical DOF shot.  Makes for good studying!

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Pret-a-3D ( ) posted Mon, 30 July 2012 at 10:30 PM

Quote - Paolo can answer the light portal query, assuming siggraph is wrapped up. I've never used them to be honest, but they do have an entry in the RUG.

:)

SIGGRAPH starts on next Monday, the 5th, and I will be driving back home the morning of the 10th. The drive from LA to Santa Cruz is about 8 hours so I will be semi-offline for a few days. Nevertheless you want to keep an eye on the news because I will be making an announcement. I will also be on site for demos and to chat. If anybody is there I will gladly meet with you. 

Anyway, portals are not for focusing or changing the light. They are an optimization tool. With a portal you are telling Lux where the light goes through so that the program doesn't need to waste time working on areas that are not covered by the portal.

Hope this helps.

Paolo

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BradHP ( ) posted Mon, 30 July 2012 at 10:59 PM

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Click link for higher quality on dA. 


Xandi ( ) posted Mon, 30 July 2012 at 11:32 PM

Very interesting scene.  The little dragon is so cute.  I was wondering if it hurt her sitting on all those rough surfaces.  What is that prop she's perched on?


erik-nl ( ) posted Mon, 30 July 2012 at 11:58 PM

Looks like the partly submerged camera inside a glass box didn't work (see updated test image).

Thinking about it, it's not surprising because the water plane continues inside the box.

With water inside the camera container the situation hasn't changed, it will have to be removed first using an external mesh editor. That means quite a bit of work to neatly repair the boundary of the water mesh to seamlessly meet the contours of the camera container.

Nothing to be done about it.

Cheers!


BradHP ( ) posted Tue, 31 July 2012 at 12:40 AM

Quote - Very interesting scene.  The little dragon is so cute.  I was wondering if it hurt her sitting on all those rough surfaces.  What is that prop she's perched on?

It's the Worlds of Fantasy: Medieval House from Stonemason.  There's water below that came with the set but you can't see in the scene, and it also had a skydome that I removed and used a Skies of Reality IBL instead. 

 


Doctorjellybean ( ) posted Tue, 31 July 2012 at 2:29 AM

Quote - Nevertheless you want to keep an eye on the news because I will be making an announcement.

Sure hope you are not planning on retirement :)

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Pret-a-3D ( ) posted Tue, 31 July 2012 at 9:42 AM

What it will be announced is so completely the opposite of retirement :)

On another note, it's good to be back at playing this game Doc ;)

Paolo

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StevieC ( ) posted Tue, 31 July 2012 at 11:21 AM

Although I should have let this render a lot longer, to remove more Noise, I decided to stop it at around 700 samples, as it was taking too long....can't afford to upgraded to a more powerful computer just yet.....simply called "Good Morning..." Will follow up with a female version....


Doctorjellybean ( ) posted Tue, 31 July 2012 at 11:26 AM

It's a nice good morning :) Will the female version be snarling LOL

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erik-nl ( ) posted Tue, 31 July 2012 at 12:26 PM

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The second over/under water render test seems to be successful (very early version!):

 

 

For this one I edited the water surface .obj in SketchUp/MeshLab to make an opening for the camera container. Now the glass camera box isn't partially filled with water anymore, and the render looks OK, both above and under the water surface of the tub : )

Cheers!


Doctorjellybean ( ) posted Tue, 31 July 2012 at 12:35 PM

Sounds like you found a solution!

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erik-nl ( ) posted Tue, 31 July 2012 at 12:44 PM · edited Tue, 31 July 2012 at 12:53 PM

Yep!

Downside is that it's a lot of extra work to modify the water surface mesh.

AND you cannot move the camera after that without doing it all over again.

But at least it works now (as far as I can tell).

 

Cheers!


Reggie68 ( ) posted Tue, 31 July 2012 at 1:33 PM

Lux 1.0RC3 is out!


Doctorjellybean ( ) posted Tue, 31 July 2012 at 1:35 PM

Thanks Reggie!

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Reggie68 ( ) posted Tue, 31 July 2012 at 1:44 PM

No probs.

Penny found it, thinks her bum looks big in RC2.


bobvan ( ) posted Tue, 31 July 2012 at 2:13 PM · edited Tue, 31 July 2012 at 2:13 PM

Thanks Reggie. Im curious is this always beta or does it actually become an official version at some point..


Pret-a-3D ( ) posted Tue, 31 July 2012 at 2:15 PM

RC3 is supposed to be the final version. If no new stop-ship-bugs are found then this will be the official LuxRender 1.0

 

Cheers.

Paolo

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Sharkbytes-BamaScans ( ) posted Tue, 31 July 2012 at 2:20 PM

Just wanted to share a link I found on Carbonflux's website.  It's to the USC Institute of Creative Technologies and has a few(6) ibl's that I haven't seen in use before.

Right Here

Cheers


Xandi ( ) posted Tue, 31 July 2012 at 2:28 PM

I'm still a bit confused about IBL and HDR images. I went to the site and read the article and I'm still confused.  Which image type do we use in Daz? And we do set it up in Daz, not Reality, right? 


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