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Subject: Need More Help Please


gohanf22 ( ) posted Thu, 30 August 2012 at 10:07 AM · edited Thu, 30 January 2025 at 9:09 PM

Ok so most people on here are probably getting tired of hearing from me lol.  I apologize.  I'm trying hardest to learn this program.  What happens when you only center yourself on one 3D program and not learn more.  Anyway,  I need help.  I know I talked about this in the past on how I see people like the guy who does Looks Can Kill babes and how they are so bad ass.  I want my artwork to be as good as that.  Yeah that maybe asking for a lot but I tried asking how he gets his chicks looking that good and no answer.  Either he's too busy or he don't give a shit which if that is the case, I will probably not look at his artwork again.

Anyway,  I have some questions that need answered:

  1. Is there a better way to fit clothing perfectly on V4.2 if your girl has assets that are "endowed"?  Reason why I am asking is I am using that Morph Clothes program but it still isn't giving me what I want.  Like one it sort of changes the object either destroying it or something else.  And like if you put a dress on V4, it loses the realism look like where the chest connect to the stomach, there is no more stretch.

  2. How do I make the skin look as realistic as those on the Looks can Kill website?  I look at those girls and I can see their sweat, wetness on skin and hair.  The skins I use don't have that.  Do I need to learn more about Poser 9 to be able to do this? If so does anyone have tutorials on learning this better.

  3. Finally, not trying to be perverted, how do I get the genitalia of V4 look like on LKC website?  The default look looks not real at all.  Like it's a line but not real like what Craigos did on his LKC babes.  I would really like to know.

I know this is alot to ask and I should realize learning a program takes time, but atm I don't have time.  I am trying to learn it as fast as I can so my project that I am undertaking can be started.  The project yes will probably take me years to do but it's something I have been wanting to do since I started 3D modeling/animating. 

Thank you to whoever wishes to help.  Again I apologize for being so annoying by asking so many stupid questions.  Probably someone will give me the whole only stupid question is no question asked talk. Lol.


Glitterati3D ( ) posted Thu, 30 August 2012 at 10:15 AM · edited Thu, 30 August 2012 at 10:17 AM

I believe you're the person who was attempting to clothe a figure with huge boobs?

If I'm correct, I'd suggest you look at dynamic clothing.  Conforming clothing just isn't going to look right after you stretch it like that.

There's quite a nice selection of dynamic clothing in the marketplace:

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/search.php?criteria=dynamic&adv_search=


gohanf22 ( ) posted Thu, 30 August 2012 at 10:42 AM

Yeah I kinda figured that's what was going on.  Conforming clothing even after using that program is going to screw up the look of it.


gohanf22 ( ) posted Thu, 30 August 2012 at 10:44 AM

Only way I see using all the clothes I have to make it work is probably converting them into Dynamic but I heard that would screw up the clothes and whatever else.


Glitterati3D ( ) posted Thu, 30 August 2012 at 10:54 AM

Quote - Only way I see using all the clothes I have to make it work is probably converting them into Dynamic but I heard that would screw up the clothes and whatever else.

That's not necessarily true - screwing up the clothes converting to dynamic. 

First of all, convert a COPY, not the original.

Second, it depends on how the clothing is constructed whether or not it will convert at all.  There are several methods for creating conforming clothing which are good practice for conforming clothing, but lousy practice for dynamics.  Remember, a product created for conforming use simply may not be capable of dynamic conversion, and that has nothing to do with the creator.  It's about using something for a method not intended.

You simply need to find the instructions for creating dynamic clothing (there are lots of tutorials on Rendo) and see if you can convert what you have.

In addition, I'm not sure a piece of conforming clothing NOT built to adjust like you want it to will solve the problem.  If it's not fitting as conforming, it doubt a dynamic conversion will do anything to help.

 


gohanf22 ( ) posted Thu, 30 August 2012 at 11:01 AM

Quote - In addition, I'm not sure a piece of conforming clothing NOT built to adjust like you want it to will solve the problem.  If it's not fitting as conforming, it doubt a dynamic conversion will do anything to help.

See that is what I am afraid of.  Like Craigo's one LCK babe Exotica has a WELL endowed chest.  Most clothes made for V4 are not built for a chest size THAT big.  So I'm just so confused on how he got the clothing to fit so GOOD on her.  He must be doing something or HAS something that is making the clothes fit perfectly on her.  I asked him nicely many times on DA and he never replies.  I'm starting to think he is thinking I am going to steal his work WHEN in fact I am not.  I am just asking how he got his clothing to work so well.  Starting to really annoy me when people don't feel like helping at all and only think for themselves.  Just a simple question. Nothing more.


Glitterati3D ( ) posted Thu, 30 August 2012 at 11:10 AM

Quote - > Quote - In addition, I'm not sure a piece of conforming clothing NOT built to adjust like you want it to will solve the problem.  If it's not fitting as conforming, it doubt a dynamic conversion will do anything to help.

See that is what I am afraid of.  Like Craigo's one LCK babe Exotica has a WELL endowed chest.  Most clothes made for V4 are not built for a chest size THAT big.  So I'm just so confused on how he got the clothing to fit so GOOD on her.  He must be doing something or HAS something that is making the clothes fit perfectly on her.  I asked him nicely many times on DA and he never replies.  I'm starting to think he is thinking I am going to steal his work WHEN in fact I am not.  I am just asking how he got his clothing to work so well.  Starting to really annoy me when people don't feel like helping at all and only think for themselves.  Just a simple question. Nothing more.

Well, there could be many reasons why the person isn't answering your questions.  Just go with the flow.

As for what they are doing, it's possible they are modeling their own clothing for their model.  I have no idea because I don't know what site you are talking about.

That's really beside the point, anyway, because you have limited options.  They are:

1.  Settle for stretched, unattractive conforming clothing not meant to work on the model you have created.

2.  Try working with dynamic cloth to get the look you want.

3.  Model your own clothes to fit the model you have created.


gohanf22 ( ) posted Thu, 30 August 2012 at 11:17 AM

I may have to do the model my own clothes.  The clothes actually fit pretty good with my 2 characters at least but the one they don't fit AT all.  Question though: when modeling clothing or creating them, you can make any sort of look of clothing?  Like you can make dresses, pants, bikinis etc. or do I need some sort of addon for that.  I probably would need a tutorial on the cloth room.

Do you know how to do the other questions I asked though?  Like how to make the skin look real and the ahem genitalia look real?  Not trying to sound perverted sorry.


Glitterati3D ( ) posted Thu, 30 August 2012 at 11:25 AM

Quote - I may have to do the model my own clothes.  The clothes actually fit pretty good with my 2 characters at least but the one they don't fit AT all.  Question though: when modeling clothing or creating them, you can make any sort of look of clothing?  Like you can make dresses, pants, bikinis etc. or do I need some sort of addon for that.  I probably would need a tutorial on the cloth room.

Do you know how to do the other questions I asked though?  Like how to make the skin look real and the ahem genitalia look real?  Not trying to sound perverted sorry.

As far as modeling your own clothing, you can make anything your skills permit you to.  Of course, some clothing items are very hard to rig if you try to make them conforming.  But, dynamic clothing is really much simpler on the rigging end than conforming.  However, don't let me mislead you - making clothing is no simple task.  It takes a big investment in learning the skills and a bigger investment in the talent and skills to make it work.

On the other questions, for the skin, get a really good character from the Renderosity marketplace.  There are some really lovely characters in just about every shape, size and color.

On the genitalia???????  Sorry, not a clue.  Try the renderotica web site?

 


randym77 ( ) posted Thu, 30 August 2012 at 11:25 AM

Eh, give him a break.  Craigo probably gets dozens of e-mails a day asking how to do what he does.  And if he answers, it only leads to more questions, because the answers are not easy. 

Looking at his web site...I don't see how clothes are a problem, since his models don't seem to wear much of it.  ;-)

He may buy or make clothing especially designed to fit giganto-boobs.  Erotic/fetishwear is more likely to have the needed morphs built in.

The skin...there are various ways to make skin look more realistic using the Material Room, and you can also buy textures with a wet or sweaty look. 

As for the naughty bits, you can buy those, too.  Props or conforming genital figures that look more realistic. 

But looking at Craigo's work...it appears he does a lot of postwork.  At least, those don't look like renders straight out of Poser (if Poser is what he uses).  If you want to make images like his, learning Photoshop (or Gimp) is probably the way to go.

 

 

 


hborre ( ) posted Thu, 30 August 2012 at 11:29 AM

And there is not shortcut for learning your software; either devote the time to familiarize yourself with the program or spend countless hours trying to figure out why something is not working and posting endless obvious questions already printed in the manual.  Also, the forum does contain many tutorials and answered questions to just about every problem encountered.  Spend some time searching before you do post.


gohanf22 ( ) posted Thu, 30 August 2012 at 12:00 PM

Quote - And there is not shortcut for learning your software; either devote the time to familiarize yourself with the program or spend countless hours trying to figure out why something is not working and posting endless obvious questions already printed in the manual.  Also, the forum does contain many tutorials and answered questions to just about every problem encountered.  Spend some time searching before you do post.

I apologize for that.  I just get too ahead of myself sometimes and ask for the easy button and should not expect to always get the easy button.  I'm sorry for being annoying.  I'll remember to do that from now on.


gohanf22 ( ) posted Thu, 30 August 2012 at 12:36 PM · edited Thu, 30 August 2012 at 12:36 PM

One other question though: does anyone have any good links to cloth room tutorials?  I can't seem to find any.


gohanf22 ( ) posted Thu, 30 August 2012 at 3:07 PM

I guess thats a no to cloth room tutorials.  I'll try searching some more then.


bagginsbill ( ) posted Thu, 30 August 2012 at 3:38 PM · edited Thu, 30 August 2012 at 3:39 PM

Attached Link: Let me Google that for you...

Google: poser cloth room tutorial

 


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randym77 ( ) posted Thu, 30 August 2012 at 3:40 PM

Have a little patience.  This isn't exactly the bright hot center of the universe, and not everyone can spend all day here refreshing the page to see if there are any new posts. 

For just the basics on how use dynamic clothing, there are tutorials at Smith Micro.  PoserFashion.net has some free clothes that come with instructions, and so does svdl here in Renderosity free stuff.  I don't know what figure you're using, but with dynamic clothing, it's fairly easy to fit it to different figures.

As for turning conforming clothing into dynamic...it may or may not work, depending on how it was modeled.  PhilC has a tutorial here:

http://www.philc.net/tutorial4.php

If you want to make your own dynamic clothes...that's a whole 'nother thing.  Though PhilC has some utilities that help with that. 


SamTherapy ( ) posted Thu, 30 August 2012 at 4:02 PM

I haven't seen this site and know nothing about it but it occurred to me that there are a lot of figures with large breasts based on Voluptuous Vicky/Pandora Peaks etc.  These models come with "Fit To" poses for clothes.

I don't know if they are still available but the guy who made them goes by the name of Wyrmmaster, IIRC.  May be worth seeing if you can find him and getting the characters.

One more thing to note:  They aren't for V4, they were made for V2, Stephanie, V3 and Stephanie Petite.

For realistic looking skins, use BagginsBill's VSS and/or SnarlyGribbly's script (the name escapes me).  Wetness can be gained by experimenting with the Specular or Alt_Specular channels. 

As well as Renderotica, Arduino also makes realistic genitals for the models, and I believe AdamThwaites also has something similar at his own site. 

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randym77 ( ) posted Thu, 30 August 2012 at 4:08 PM

Dang.  What happened to Wyrmmaster?  He's no longer a merchant here.  I'd almost forgotten about Voluptuous Vicky. 


hborre ( ) posted Thu, 30 August 2012 at 5:29 PM

Wyrmmaster has been gone for years.


Glitterati3D ( ) posted Thu, 30 August 2012 at 5:41 PM

Quote - Google: poser cloth room tutorial

 

OK, I want to know how you got Google to do that! 


moriador ( ) posted Thu, 30 August 2012 at 5:49 PM


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Glitterati3D ( ) posted Thu, 30 August 2012 at 6:41 PM · edited Thu, 30 August 2012 at 6:41 PM

 

Thanks!  VERY cool!


icandy265 ( ) posted Fri, 31 August 2012 at 9:57 AM

Okay most of your questions have been answered... but I have a little more to add. Once you have your shader set up, use the Blinn node and plug it into either the Alt Specular... or if you have Poser 9 or Poser Pro 2012 (which from your original post it doesn't seem like you do) then you can plug it into the blender node along with the scatter node.

Now with it's default settings it will look decent, but the trick is to use a specular map (pretty much take the original diffuse map into Photoshop/Gimp, desaturate it, then use Darkness and Contrast to darken the image and bring out some detail, you want the grey parts to not shine as much as the white parts), then plug that into a blender node with a value of 0.5 with a noise node. My suggestion would be to make the x,y,z scale about 0.100... and put the Min: 0.400 Max: 0.400-0.600... just expirament, you want it to basically resemble glitter... this will create the "sweaty" look.

Also the lights, make sure that the lights have atleast a medium light color on "Specular Color" setting in the material room... and if needed you can add an extra light and set the "Diffuse Color" to completely black, and set the "Specular Color" to a desaturated ligth blue... this will create a "Specular Only" light. It will make the shine appear amplified, so if the girl is "sweating" she will be more shiny with higher specular settings... Also put the shadows as "Raytracing" and also avoid using shadows on more than 2 lights.


monkeycloud ( ) posted Fri, 31 August 2012 at 10:50 AM · edited Fri, 31 August 2012 at 10:50 AM

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@gohanf22 what Poser version are you. Conforming seems to be a lot better in Poser 9 / Poser Pro 2012 with SR3... to me anyway...

...I realise Geriatric Ninja Doris [partial nudity because of cloth transparency advisory] in my gallery here isn't likely what you're after... but she's certainly a bit more endowed / voluptuous than the average V4, I think, and conforming the V4 Basicwear bikini was a snap in PP2012 SR3.

I guess the mileage with conforming clothing will vary based on the clothing item and how well set up it is for certain figure morphs?

I've had plenty success where a character morph is a custom sculpted full body morph (not dialled for V4 Morphs ++ for example) by using Wardrobe Wizard to copy the full body morph to the clothes... that worked a treat for the "fuller figured" Alesia character morph, from RDNA, for example.

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gohanf22 ( ) posted Sun, 20 January 2013 at 2:39 PM

Ok I still am having trouble trying to get my clothes to fit.  I really don't want to have to change the way my models look if I have to.  I've been seeing some people doing some models with well endowed bodies and they somehow made their clothing fit pretty good and it didnt lose the realism.

Every time I use that morphcloth program, it ruins the clothes and they look like shrink wrap and also form jagged edges or rips that make it look not cool

I'm using Poser 9 but I would like to upgrade it to the newest service pack but can't seem to get the download to work on contentparadise.com.

Anyway, I know I'm asking this yet again so do I have to use magnets or something to make them fit perfectly or what do I need to do.  Everything fits fine on the V4 models except the chest area.


hborre ( ) posted Sun, 20 January 2013 at 3:44 PM

This is the update link for P9:

http://poser.smithmicro.com/updates.html

Just have a valid key and you should have no problems downloading the files.


randym77 ( ) posted Sun, 20 January 2013 at 6:19 PM

Judging from these images, Exotica doesn't wear a lot of clothes, and the look and fit of them is not realistic.  Real clothes do not have that shrink-wrapped look, and there is also extreme texture-stretching over her gigantoboobs. 

I suspect he chooses his clothing carefully.  Fetishwear is more likely to have gigantoboob morphs, or at least be more friendly to them. 

Magnets can help a lot with fit, but eventually, you'll run into the same problem as with Wardrobe Wizard and other clothing fitting programs.  You reach a point where the clothing is stretched so much that bad things happen.

I wonder how Genesis' auto-fit works with boob morphs.  I assume people have tried it...


hborre ( ) posted Sun, 20 January 2013 at 6:50 PM

On a quick scan of the site, there is no mention of which software was used for development and rendering.  Could be a custom job.


gohanf22 ( ) posted Sun, 20 January 2013 at 8:58 PM

Quote - Judging from these images, Exotica doesn't wear a lot of clothes, and the look and fit of them is not realistic.  Real clothes do not have that shrink-wrapped look, and there is also extreme texture-stretching over her gigantoboobs. 

I suspect he chooses his clothing carefully.  Fetishwear is more likely to have gigantoboob morphs, or at least be more friendly to them. 

Magnets can help a lot with fit, but eventually, you'll run into the same problem as with Wardrobe Wizard and other clothing fitting programs.  You reach a point where the clothing is stretched so much that bad things happen.

I wonder how Genesis' auto-fit works with boob morphs.  I assume people have tried it...

 

I figured that's what it was. More or less certain clothing with Giant Breast Morphs.  And the stretching is happening with the MorphCloth program.  Like when I apply the morphs to the clothing and then put the clothing on the model, there are jagged edges and stretching that ruins the clothing itself.


gohanf22 ( ) posted Sun, 20 January 2013 at 8:59 PM

Quote - This is the update link for P9:

http://poser.smithmicro.com/updates.html

Just have a valid key and you should have no problems downloading the files.

 

I tried it and it's still doing the same thing for me. I get to checkout and it times out and doesn't go to the checkout.


WandW ( ) posted Sun, 20 January 2013 at 9:24 PM · edited Sun, 20 January 2013 at 9:28 PM

Quote - 1) Is there a better way to fit clothing perfectly on V4.2 if your girl has assets that are "endowed"?  Reason why I am asking is I am using that Morph Clothes program but it still isn't giving me what I want.  Like one it sort of changes the object either destroying it or something else.  And like if you put a dress on V4, it loses the realism look like where the chest connect to the stomach, there is no more stretch.

 

Are you applying the Magnitize Clothing pose found in the DAZ V4 pose folder to the clothing?  V4 contains magnets to shape the chest when the limbs are moved, and this pose allows those magnets to work on the clothing.  If you have one V4 in the scene, apply the first pose in the folder..

 

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shvrdavid ( ) posted Sun, 20 January 2013 at 10:13 PM · edited Sun, 20 January 2013 at 10:17 PM

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> Quote - Anyway, I know I'm asking this yet again so do I have to use magnets or something to make them fit perfectly or what do I need to do.  Everything fits fine on the V4 models except the chest area.

Morphing Clothes is just a start. After you get the morphs in the clothes you are going to have to tweak them to get them to work.

Sometimes it is better not to use the breast morphs in the cloth and do it with the morph brush and magnets. Put a texture on it that will show the stretching and get it to look good that way.

Some clothes simply wont work with face sized breasts, so you will have to get creative.

If the clothes wont stretch that far without texture problems, let things hang out then.



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