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Circumvent ( ) posted Thu, 11 October 2007 at 3:50 PM

SSAfam1
Crossdresser conforms any clothing you want to another model however, it doesn't transfer the morphs.  The shirt I converted to Matt3 doesn't have the morphs loaded into it like the M3 version does. 
Adrian


SSAfam1 ( ) posted Thu, 11 October 2007 at 4:29 PM

Okay so this isn't for me then since I'm using the same model just morphed in size. Gotcha. 

Thanks!


Circumvent ( ) posted Thu, 11 October 2007 at 4:50 PM

Sixus1
OK I think I figured it out.  I wasn't highlighting the MORPH TARGETS as I collapse the thread.  But now I'm having a new problem.  After I copy each of the morphs from one CR2 to the other, I save the modified CR2 back to the library and then I think I'm done.  But when I load the newly modified CR2 file, there are no morphs in it.  Also, when I load the newly modified CR2 in morph manager, it shows that the new morphs are there but they are not showing up when I load it in poser.  Do I have to copy the file or combine the file?  I don't know what the difference is.  Thanks for your help.
Adrian


BastBlack ( ) posted Thu, 11 October 2007 at 5:01 PM

Hey guys.... Interesting things are afoot with Wardrobe Wizard 2.  ^^
More news about it will be coming out soon. ^^

bB


Circumvent ( ) posted Thu, 11 October 2007 at 5:06 PM

WOW that is good news about WW.  I hope their is an upgrade price for those who bought WW. 


Circumvent ( ) posted Thu, 11 October 2007 at 5:15 PM

Now while playing with the newly modified Cr2, I was able to find the new morph targets in Poser, but now when I move the dials, nothing happens.  I don't get it.
Adrian


sixus1 ( ) posted Thu, 11 October 2007 at 5:24 PM

Hmmm...the problem could a couple of things, but the first thing that comes to mind is this:
Does the original figure have morph injections ?  If so, you have to make sure that they are loaded in and then save a copy of the CR2 out into your Poser library. 

Let me ask this, what is the orginal Cr2 of and what are you trying to transfer them to ?


Circumvent ( ) posted Thu, 11 October 2007 at 5:31 PM · edited Thu, 11 October 2007 at 5:33 PM

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?ViewProduct=42215&Start=31&vendor=aoaio

file_390479.jpg

Sixus This is the shirt I conformed to Matt3 from M3.  This is the link:

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?ViewProduct=42215&Start=31&vendor=aoaio

I know I'm doing something wrong.  Crossdresser was able to conform the shirt to Matt3 with no problems.  I'll attach a picture of it.  I just don't think i'm transfering the morphs correctly.  Thanks.
Adrian


SSAfam1 ( ) posted Fri, 12 October 2007 at 1:35 PM

Any of these clothing converter offer a free trial so I can see which is for me? If I'm not mistaken, PhilC's WW is 50 dollars and I wouldn't want to spend that much and find out another utility is for me.


Circumvent ( ) posted Fri, 12 October 2007 at 1:49 PM

SSAfam1
I don't know of any that have a free trial.  I have both WW and Crossdresser because both has it's advantages over the other.  WW2 is coming out from what I understand and in my opinion, both work great for me.
Adrian


SSAfam1 ( ) posted Fri, 12 October 2007 at 3:04 PM

Adrian,
 
Am I correct in thinking WW will be the best option when I wish to take V3's clothing and make it fit onto a V3 vuluptuous body? Thats all I intend to do as I dont wish to use any other characters such as Miko, Hiro, James etc. Just my morphed V3. 

I know WW is a python sript which works within poser. That I understand but the whole of this thread is talking about clothing going from one figure to a diffferent figure. And that is what crossdresser is for right?


Circumvent ( ) posted Fri, 12 October 2007 at 4:50 PM

SSAfam1
Yes you are correct  that CD will conform clothing to other figures however, thats what WW does too.  I don't think you can go from V3 to V3 since the clothing is already conformed to that model.  You need to get a piece of clothing that has those morphs that you need to make it more voluptuous. 
Adrian


bopperthijs ( ) posted Fri, 12 October 2007 at 5:06 PM

@circumvent

Morphmanager does only put the dials of the morph in the CR2-file, not the morphs itself, AFAIK, the only program that can do that is Morphmagic, which can be bought at the DAZ3D-website.
Wardrobewizard is capable of appling the cothes to a morphed figure, but the clothes will only fit that special figure and won't give you any morph dials (AFAIK, if I'm wrong somebody tells me), but on the other hand  you can apply the clothes to almost any morphed figure.

Regards,

Bopperthijs

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vincebagna ( ) posted Fri, 12 October 2007 at 5:12 PM

I second SSAfam1 question with one difference:

if i want to put a cloth from one figure to another figure morphed (let say a cloth from M3 to Hiro realistic, or from A3 to V3 Kielo morph), what program should i use?  (i own WW but had terrible results with it, i guess i don't really know how to use it...)

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Circumvent ( ) posted Fri, 12 October 2007 at 5:19 PM

Bopper
I think I was confused as to what Morph Manager does.  I thought it put the morphs in there as well as the dials.  I will go to DAZ and get Morph Magic.  Thanks for the help.
Adrian


vincebagna ( ) posted Fri, 12 October 2007 at 5:23 PM · edited Fri, 12 October 2007 at 5:24 PM

Circumvent, you also have The Tailor at DAZ too that takes a morph from a character and put it in a cloth. It has great results with some morphs, worse with others.

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Circumvent ( ) posted Fri, 12 October 2007 at 6:02 PM

Vince
I was just looking at that one too.  They also have the pro version of Morph Master.  Which one should I get and which one is easier to work with?  Thanks.
Adrian


BastBlack ( ) posted Fri, 12 October 2007 at 8:15 PM · edited Fri, 12 October 2007 at 8:21 PM

If you want to convert clothing from the default figure to a morphed version of the default, use Wardrobe Wizard. Crossdresser does not do morphs. Tailor will also move a morph from a figure to the clothing but it is PC only, and imho, WW does it better. With WW, you can also convert clothing from a default figure, to another figure that is morphed in one step. I have also used WW to convert clothing that was converted by CrossDresser to fit a morphed figure. If clothing is NOT regrouped when converted to a new figure or a morphed figure, then morphs within the clothing will be retained and/or can be added back to the cloth via MacConstructor or Morph Manager or INJections. And no doubt, the run down of what program can do what will need to be revised when Wardrobe Wizard 2 come out. p.s. Of all the clothing conversion programs, only Clothing Converter does gloves and shoes. bB


SSAfam1 ( ) posted Fri, 12 October 2007 at 9:05 PM · edited Fri, 12 October 2007 at 9:05 PM

file_390582.jpg

Here is my V3. I used a dynamic dress and scaled it to 114 then clothified it. Close but no cigar. I need whichever program (seems it's gonna be WW2) to be able to fit properly onto my figures body.

Thanks for all the input guys!

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sturkwurk ( ) posted Fri, 12 October 2007 at 9:14 PM

A recent conversion I did wih Crossdresser from M3 to V3.
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1538465

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vincebagna ( ) posted Sat, 13 October 2007 at 2:40 AM

BastBlack - Do you mean if i want to convert a cloth from M3 to Hiro with XDresser, i can only convert it to default Hiro?

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kalon ( ) posted Sat, 13 October 2007 at 6:58 AM

Vince- That's correct. XDresser only converts to the base model.

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vincebagna ( ) posted Sat, 13 October 2007 at 8:08 AM

Thanks Kalon. So as i never use Hiro in it's default shape, why should i use XDresser? What could be the advantage using this utility?

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kalon ( ) posted Sat, 13 October 2007 at 9:25 AM · edited Sat, 13 October 2007 at 9:29 AM

If you're on a PC Morphmanager is a pretty easy utility to learn. And because the morphs are built into Aiko and Hiro, they are probably the easiest combo to work with as far as transfering morphs over to the clothing.

If they are custom morphs, I believe that if you save the figure with your custom morphs you can transfer them as well.

Also, if I recall correctly, you can use the netherworks morph kit to transfer in standard Hiro morphs as well as the Netherworks morphs for Hiro.

@ SSAfam1 The Netherworks kits might also be a viable option for the V3 morph situation as well

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SSAfam1 ( ) posted Sat, 13 October 2007 at 1:01 PM

Thanks Kalon.


FrankT ( ) posted Sat, 13 October 2007 at 3:25 PM

@SSAfam1 - did you set any drape frames before you ran the cloth sim ? I've never had any problems converting dynamic clothing between figures

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SSAfam1 ( ) posted Sat, 13 October 2007 at 6:28 PM

Quote - @SSAfam1 - did you set any drape frames before you ran the cloth sim ? I've never had any problems converting dynamic clothing between figures

 

errr drape frames? I refuse to answer this on the grounds that I might incriminate myself. 😄😄😄


FrankT ( ) posted Sat, 13 October 2007 at 7:08 PM · edited Sat, 13 October 2007 at 7:08 PM

when you set up the sim, there's an option to set a number of drape frames before the sim is calculated.  This will make the cloth fit the figure better and remove any pokethru 😄  I usually set 5 to 7 drape frames then start the sim.  Give it a go - you might be pleasantly surprised 😄

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BastBlack ( ) posted Sat, 13 October 2007 at 7:23 PM · edited Sat, 13 October 2007 at 7:27 PM

Quote - Thanks Kalon. So as i never use Hiro in it's default shape, why should i use XDresser? What could be the advantage using this utility?

Right now, the only advantage CrossDresser has over Wardrobe Wizard is that it does a cleaner conversion. Wardrobe Wizard would convert to your morphed Hiro character. CrossDresser will convert to the default shape. Here is an example of how you can fit converted XD clothing to a morphed figure: 1) Convert M3 clothing to Hiro default in CrossDresser 2) Convert new Hiro Clothing from Default to Morphed Hiro with Wardrobe Wizard. -or - 2) Convert new Hiro Clothing from Default to Morphed Hiro by hand in Blacksmith3D. -or- 2) Convert new Hiro Clothing from Default to Morphed Hiro with a Magnet Kit. -or- 2) Convert new Hiro Clothing from Default to Morphed Hiro with Tailor. Using WW to fit a morphed figure is the fastest and easiest. If you only use Hiro, then a CrossDresser license for Hiro only is $9. That's the cost of one outfit. So it pays for itself in one conversion. Wardrobe Wizard 2 may change how I currently do my conversions. bB


SSAfam1 ( ) posted Sat, 13 October 2007 at 8:38 PM

Quote - when you set up the sim, there's an option to set a number of drape frames before the sim is calculated.  This will make the cloth fit the figure better and remove any pokethru 😄  I usually set 5 to 7 drape frames then start the sim.  Give it a go - you might be pleasantly surprised 😄

 

Will do. Thank you FrankT!


bopperthijs ( ) posted Sun, 14 October 2007 at 5:54 AM

Quote:

Here is an example of how you can fit converted XD clothing to a morphed figure:

  1. Convert M3 clothing to Hiro default in CrossDresser
  2. Convert new Hiro Clothing from Default to Morphed Hiro with Wardrobe Wizard.
    -or -
  3. Convert new Hiro Clothing from Default to Morphed Hiro by hand in Blacksmith3D.
    -or-
  4. Convert new Hiro Clothing from Default to Morphed Hiro with a Magnet Kit.
    -or-
  5. Convert new Hiro Clothing from Default to Morphed Hiro with Tailor.

Using WW to fit a morphed figure is the fastest and easiest.

*You forget about a fifth option:

-Convert new Hiro Clothing from Default, to a version with all the required morphs in it with morphmagic, The utility probably needs some update, cause its on the market since poser4, but it does fairly good job. and I find it remarkably simple to use. I complained some time that it didn't worked with Victoria 4.1 but after I filled in a support ticket I got a solution that did work. You have to load in your target figure and your converted piece of cloth, and then you can transfer al the morphs you want: FBM's , JCM's, expression morphs you name it. It does take a little time before it's finished, but then you save your cloth and when you open it in Poser, it has  the morph dials you wanted. The only thing you can't have are custom morphs of the original piece,witch makes the outfit often so interesting. Another issue is that I find the morphs rather tight, in this case Wardrobe wizard or clothmagnets will probably do a better job, or better making the morphs yourself in modelling program or with blacksmith: it's rather tedious but you get the best results.

Best regards,

Bopperthijs.

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Rainfeather ( ) posted Sun, 14 October 2007 at 9:21 AM

this is actually sounding more and more interesting to me. i have been looking to purchase a converter for quite sometime now but have always been intimidated by the technical jargons that are thrown with it. i am not ready to purchase something that costs an arm and a leg and wouldn't have a clue where to start. you see, i'm one of those who plays things "by ear" so if anyone is to explain to me without showing me exactly how anything works, i will never get it, lol. i think i'm sold to this one though and might attempt a bold step and purchase the licenses i need. 

thanks for the heads up!!!


estherau ( ) posted Sun, 14 October 2007 at 9:26 AM

Rainfeather - it does do a nice conversion. I think you'll be happy. Love esther

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Rainfeather ( ) posted Sun, 14 October 2007 at 10:20 AM

estherau - i just purchased 2 licenses (v3 and V4)...i am so excited, i can't wait to get it installed!!


estherau ( ) posted Sun, 14 October 2007 at 10:23 AM

show us what you do with it. Love esther

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Rainfeather ( ) posted Sun, 14 October 2007 at 11:00 AM

i will as soon as i have it up and running and got my kids out of the way...you know how it is, lol.  =)


BastBlack ( ) posted Sun, 14 October 2007 at 12:53 PM · edited Sun, 14 October 2007 at 12:59 PM

Quote - Quote:
You forget about a fifth option: -Convert new Hiro Clothing from Default, to a version with all the required morphs in it with morphmagic,

Hi. I just want to clear something up. Adding morphs back to a converted clothing that was made for another figure WILL NOT make the converted clothing fit better. If Hiro Realistic was not a morph in the original clothing made for V3, M3, or any figure other than Hiro, there is no way to add back a morph that doesn't even exist. The reason you use MorphManager and MacConstructor is to add back morphs to a converted clothing is too keep useful things like: Collar Up, Collar Down, Jacket Open, etc. I'm not familiar with Morph Magic, is it Tailor and only works on the PC? bB


bopperthijs ( ) posted Sun, 14 October 2007 at 6:35 PM · edited Sun, 14 October 2007 at 6:36 PM

Hi Bastblack,

Morphmagic doesn't put the old morphs back from the donor-figure but make new morphs from the target-figure So if you converted a cloth which was original made for V3 to Hiro, You can pick the morphs of Hiro from a list and  morphmagic does the job, even morphs that didn't exist in the original figure, otherwise it wouldn't been very usefull isn't it. Morphmagic isn't tailot, but has been made by the same programmer as Clothes converter Marckus Dunn. I'm afraid it is PC-only.

Best regards,

Bopperthijs

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BastBlack ( ) posted Sun, 14 October 2007 at 7:23 PM

Okay. Can you post a link to where MorphMagic is? Thanks. bB


gagnonrich ( ) posted Mon, 15 October 2007 at 12:23 PM

Quote - Any of these clothing converter offer a free trial so I can see which is for me?

 

Both Wardrobe Wizard and CrossDresser have demos. The demos limit you to the few figures the demos support. CrossDresser provides free licenses for the P4 kids and the DAZ Millennium Boys and Girls (the program is free and figure licenses must be bought for converting clothing to licensed figures). I couldn't find info on the WW site for demo support, but I believe that it's the P4 and P5 figures.

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bopperthijs ( ) posted Wed, 17 October 2007 at 9:50 AM

Hi Bastblack,

Sorry I respond a little  late, but I've checked my Mail-box just this afternoon.

Morphmagic can be bought at DAZ3D.com; look for : 3D-software/ 3rd party products/ applications. It cost about $25,-

regards,

Bopperthijs

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BastBlack ( ) posted Wed, 17 October 2007 at 2:04 PM

Okay. Thanks. Will take a look at it...


BurstAngel ( ) posted Mon, 29 October 2007 at 9:57 AM

So which programs transfer clothing morphs to converted clothes and which programs transfer figure morphs to clothes.

I see alot of figure to clothes tranfers but none clarify if they can transfer clothes to converted clothes.
I'd like to know cause I am going need both.


SSAfam1 ( ) posted Mon, 29 October 2007 at 11:47 AM

Quote - So which programs transfer clothing morphs to converted clothes and which programs transfer figure morphs to clothes.

I see alot of figure to clothes tranfers but none clarify if they can transfer clothes to converted clothes.
I'd like to know cause I am going need both.

 

This is what I know for sure. Others can add to it.

The Tailor (available at www.daz3D.com) allows you to alter clothing made for a particular figure so that it fits a morphed version of the SAME figure.

Wardrobe Wizardv(available at www.PhilC.net) is a python script which works inside of Poser. It converts clothing from one figure to fit ANOTHER figure.

Cross Dresser (available at www.evilinnocence.com/) is a stand alone product, working outside of Poser that allows you to convert clothing from one figure to ANOTHER figure aswell. Downloading Cross Dresser is free. If you have Victoria 4 and see an outfit that is made for Victoria 3 that you wish to use on your Vic 4. You would buy a Vic 4 license for $9.99. And ANY figure Cross Dresser supports, you can convert clothing from that figure to Vic 4. There is a list on Evilinnonce's site as well as PhilC's site of the figures supported.

ClothingKit (found at www.netherworks-studios.com) allows you to convert clothing made for a particular figure to the morphed figure using magnets. It works inside Poser.

I use Cross Dresser and V3Cloth Kit from Netherworks studios. As far as what's the easiest...I couldn't tell you. Cross Dresser, I find, does a clean conversion in seconds. I just started using the Netherworks and didn't realize beforehand it used magnets (I was deathly afraid of magnets) but I find I'm getting the hand of it just from reading the tutorial that came with the kit. It's going to rest on your comfort level as well as where you are in Poser, (newbie, advanced, etc).

Someone else can explain Morph Manager.

Hope my rambling helped. :)


BurstAngel ( ) posted Tue, 30 October 2007 at 6:43 AM

Thanks for the info, I'll definitly check the netherworks site.

What I really want to find out is how to transfer morphs that poses the clothes. For example, a shirt that can move up or down or a jacket that can open and close. Better yet to add in a morph that lengthen sleeves on a jacket! (I know I'm asking alot!)

I just want to know if there is an easier way than to play around with a D former in DAZ. 


SSAfam1 ( ) posted Tue, 30 October 2007 at 10:45 AM · edited Tue, 30 October 2007 at 10:46 AM

Ahhh no clue there. I haven't even gotten to that part of my journey. LOL

bump for the professionals.


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