Had a wonderful thing happen to me today, Bill Gates invaded my computer. Once your copy of Windows 10 is available you have only two choices available.

1 Upgrade now

2 pick a date and time to upgrade.

No option to just download it and install if you decide to do so.

After the install of Windows 10 at gun point I saw that there is an option once it is all done installing Windows 10,

to revert back to Windows 7 or the OS that you have before the hijacking.

I am back on windows 7 Pro now and found that the nag will bug you forever.

Went online and found a solution.

Go to your windows updates and find the one called (KB3035583)

Right click it and choose uninstall.

That was the Trojan Horse that said nothing about the Windows 10 install nag.

The full name is in my case was,

Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3035583)

After the uninstall you will have to reboot to have it lock in.

Once you are back in Windows 7 or your OS, open Windows Updates and find said update as well as the

Upgrade to Windows 10 Pro

Highlight them both and choose hide updates.

Bill Gates you are a jerk!

Want to be the biggest software release ever so bad, that you have to give it away for free, then trick people into using it or else.

You lost me on this one big guy!

Very disappointed in this bold move!

Think of all the old people who will have no clue to what is going on until it is too late.

They will most likely have to pay Microsoft $300.00 for the tech support to put you back to where you were before you were robbed.

Bill Gates, Bad!

Tom

Umm, I was kinda under the impression Bill Gates was what they call "retired".  Someone else is running the place now.

Doric

You could have just downloaded it to install later (when you want) as an ISO or to a USB for USB install straight from the Microsoft site.

I did both (the ISO and a USB) ready to install when I feel like it.

That is what I did after all the extra work.

Live and learn I guess...

By the way Doric, nice sarcasm there. Very kind of you.

Tom

I've not had this issue yet and I'm still running win7.

But thanks for the heads up Tom. Much appreciated. I plan on staying with win7 as long as I can. No interest in 10. I hear there are issues with win10 and zbrush at the moment anyway, which makes it more necessary for me to avoid it. Take my ZB and we're gonna have a fight. haha.

I have been running Windows 10 for about 3 days now, and once I had everything set up the way I wanted it, I haven't had any problems. At least none that I can see. Everything works fine.

I'm have a 5GB monthly mobile data limit.  I always hold off downloading updates until I get to my office at work and download the updates with the internet access available there.  I've read that Windows 10 does give you control over when updates are downloaded, at least not in the Windows 10 Home version.  So I am hesitant to upgraded because of this.  I don't want the automatic updates to eat up my data allowance and make me end up paying extra on my Verizon Wireless bill for going over my limit.   So I'm staying with Windows 7 for now.

Oops, I meant to say "NO control". 

And I was about to say that Bill Gates is retired now, but PrecisionXXX beat me to it.  He is doing philanthropy work the last I read about him.

In defense of Bill Gates, I read somewhere that he's donating an unbelievable part of his income to different causes, kudos to him for that.

No kudos to the company he founded.

I get the nag screen, but I have no intention of downloading it.  Especially since my built in video card they say isn't supported.  Got that notice when I was trying to figure out how to get rid of the icon.  I imagine I'll have to keep a closer watch on updates so I don't inadvertently let update install it.

Doric,

By the way Doric, nice sarcasm there. Very kind of you.

Tom

Be thankful you weren't one of my machining trainees.  I told them three times when I saw their hands in the wrong place, the next time, I let the machine bite.  I'm not known for being kind. Doric

I also had the hijack and a very scary situation afterwards. Windows 10 would recognise my second monitor, and the main screen's aspect ratio was wrong. I tried downloading a new video driver through the Geforce experience programme, and it would tell me there is a Windows 10 update for my video card, then it would try to download it and fail, and then tell me that the driver isn't compatible with Windows 10. I freaked out. Eventually I found the device manager and used that to upgrade the video driver, and it is working now. I almost rushed out to get a new video card, but it seems I can get a bit more service out of this one. Our cap is 100GB over fibre and I can easily add to it, so I am not too bothered about the downloads and updates.

Nvidia Geforce GTX 560 Ti.

I don't have automatic updates on my other Windows 7 machines, and I made sure that the update that asks you to pick a date was not installed at all.  But my other pc I did have Automatic updates, but like a few I just downloaded the iso file and will install it when I want.  I have been testing Windows 10 at work, if you purchase the Windows 10 Enterprise version you can stop Automatic updates and you can adjust what you want.  I don't mind Windows 10, except I do agree that Microsoft has indeed pushed to far as to taking the rights away from users.  I think they will change that (maybe) a lot of people are denying the update to 10 because of those automatic updates.  We will see.

won't contemplate upg til they come out with Service Pack3.

the new computers all seem to have built-in wireless.  built-in means i couldn't even rip it out?

There will be no service packs.  They are moving to a constant update model.  There's even hints this will be the final version of Windows.. Just a constantly updating OS from now on. 

Also gates has no been head of Microsoft for nearly 10 years! 

I downloaded an iso file and burnt it to disc, and that's only cause I didn't have a usb stick handy, although that was an option.  Thanks to the OP for the uninstall proceedures, which might come in handy for those not interested in Windows 10

You might also want to uninstall and hide KB2976978 as well as the one Tom mentioned, tho it might just be for Window 8 users. Pays to check just to be sure tho ;). It's not enough though just to hide the updates. I did that previously before there were more "updates" for the Windows 8.1.1 installation on my laptop and somehow there they magically were again (and there was that nagging adware Get Windows 10 icon again), so somehow Microshaft managed to install them again by changing them from an opltional update to an "important" update. Thanks a bunch Microshaft. Not. Check the update numbers before you install updates on versions before version 10 and uncheck them and rehide them.

Laurie

I upgraded on my laptop and haven't seen any issues yet but I haven't spent a lot of time in it just yet.  Still, good info to have so I've bookmarked this thread and shared it on the Renderosity Facebook page.  

I totally agree with Dreamland Models.  I don't want to be forced or nagged into updating until I am ready.  They took away several features and are trying to introduce a yearly pay model for it.  Plus it's way too early.  I have no intention on being a beta tester for them.  

"I totally agree with Dreamland Models.  I don't want to be forced or nagged into updating until I am ready."

The irony here is that Dreamland Models indeed UPDATED his Windows 7 because that's the only way you get the mentioned KB3035583 on your PC - when you update Windows.  He wouldn't have this Windows 10 invasion if he had looked for information about this KB - not at Microsoft (which only described it as: "Provides an update that installs the Get Windows 10 app, which helps users understand their Windows 10 upgrade options and device readiness")  but via Google. Concerning Microsoft's reputation: why are people still using Microsoft's automatic updates? I'll activate them only every three months and look for information before I download anything from the updates.

"I have been running Windows 10 for about 3 days now, and once I had everything set up the way I wanted it, I haven't had any problems. At least none that I can see. Everything works fine."

Even the bluescreen monster Windows 98 could work faultless for three days... Let's discuss Windows 10 if people worked with it for at least three months.

Every review says better than previous updates, but wait 3 months due to bugs (really annoying ones). You can register to get it, then do the update later, or simply do it later. Eventually Windows users will be forced. Still, better than Vista, and Windows 8 (if you didn't have a touchscreen), kind of a patched version of 8.1 (technically Windows 8.2 or 8.3, but should have been Windows 9). Supposedly can run on very, very old hardware on 1 gig of memory. However, drivers could be an issue. Also running virtual machines. Might need Windows 10 Pro for that...

Just be very aware that Windows 10 is INCREDIBLY intrusive and I do mean that very strongly, even more so than 8.1. PLEASE do not do an express install, but a custom one and make sure that you go over EVERY setting (there is a bunch of them that give Microcrap permission to spy on you, even down to whatever you type - Windows 10 contains the same keylogger that was in the preview version and it has not been removed. Some crap about Cortana needing it or something.). I won't have Windows 10 on any of my computers - it's bad enough that I have 8.1 on my laptop and Android on my phone. I certainly don't need even MORE snooping. Having nothing to  hide has absolutely nothing to do with any of it. It's none of Microsoft's business what applications I'm using or what I'm writing in my emails or what I search for or who is in my contacts and THAT is the info that is being send to Microshaft...personally identifiable info.

Apparently unlike other software manufacturers, Microsoft believes that because you use their software you are automatically opted IN to all their crap just by virtue of installing it, rather than having all of it something you can opt into if you WISH, so do go over every single setting. Even if you turn everything off, Home users cannot turn off telemetry altogether but can only go to sending the basic amount of info to Microsoft. It's sickening the way things are going with software. Just sickening.

http://www.rt.com/usa/311383-windows-opt-out-privacy/

Laurie

I wanted to mention that there are those giving the argument "well, we get snooped on by Google on our phones - why is it different when Microsoft does it?". Number 1, I don't trust Microshaft as far as I can throw them. Number two, I would put it out there that those people that don't seem to have a problem with it are PART of the problem and why we are in the lack-of-privacy-hell we now find ourselves in. I almost have to put up with it on my phone. I have to draw the line somewhere and I DON'T want it on my desktop ;). Windows 10 is one gigantic, moving, flipping, spinning, sliding advertisement. For an OS, that's just ridiculous. To have so many ads as an integral part of the operating system is just disgusting. Windows 10 is NOT free...you're paying - oh, are you gonna pay. Just know what you're paying for ;)

Laurie

I wanted to mention that there are those giving the argument "well, we get snooped on by Google on our phones - why is it different when Microsoft does it?". Number 1, I don't trust Microshaft as far as I can throw them. Number two, I would put it out there that those people that don't seem to have a problem with it are PART of the problem and why we are in the lack-of-privacy-hell we now find ourselves in. I almost have to put up with it on my phone. I have to draw the line somewhere and I DON'T want it on my desktop ;). Windows 10 is one gigantic, moving, flipping, spinning, sliding advertisement. For an OS, that's just ridiculous. To have so many ads as an integral part of the operating system is just disgusting. Windows 10 is NOT free...you're paying - oh, are you gonna pay. Just know what you're paying for ;)

Laurie

Well I am from a generation that sees all this intrusion as a very real danger.  Luckily I do not need the latest smart phone, heck I don't even need a smart phone so the one I have has no idea where I go and for the most part I leave it at home.  I don't have a Farcebook account and I do not do Twatter mainly because I am generally a private person and I take any intrusion seriously.  I will not be updating to Windows 10 until I absolutely have to thanks not only to this but also the enforced updates. If I buy all the components and build a computer I want to decide just what I do with it. It is another reason why I do not like the SM Game Dev activation system as it forces me to connect my best computer to the Internet, well it does if I want to use it.  Luckily Poser Pro 2014 still gives me the option to work away happily with no constant on-line connections.

To those who say if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear I can only say, talk to someone who has had their identity stolen, then come back and tell me again.

The early bird gets eaten by the cat ;) . Since my first Win PC, I've learnt to never trust windows. I need windows, but I don't trust it.

Microsoft has a tendency to foist their products over what users might prefer. During set up, there's an option in blue text on blue back ground, lower left corner. Use that to keep your preferred program file associations. This kind of nonsense is what got them sued back during the browser wars near the early 2000's. If you don't keep your settings you'll be forced to use Edge (their browser), their media player, their chat program, their word processing program, their image viewer, etc. They are and want to keep being, your neighborhood monopoly for desktops. That said, they did lose (and might completely withdraw) the phone market war. Windows phones had finally gotten good too. They are headed to join the final resting place of the Zune.

Side note, technically, the swapping of programs (with a partially hidden cancel button) is so close to malware definitions that some tech reviewers have labeled the tactic as malware in their reviews.

"Luckily Poser Pro 2014 still gives me the option to work away happily with no constant on-line connections."

I am a long time mac OS user who, in late 2014,

got my first windows machine (win 7)

since the bygone days of windows 95.

I got it specifically to run two win only apps. Reallusion Iclone pro

and Natural Motion Endorphin.

I use a program on the mac OS called "little snitch"
that prevents the "tellware" features of my many mac programs from "phoning home" and reporting on my"user activities" to Adobe,Nextlimit etc.

I have found that when I use the similar blocking feature of Zone Alarm to prevent my win7 PC from outgoing communications that the wretched flash based poser pro 2014 library fails to load.

Not a show stopper for me as I use the third party content Manager from Shader works.

On the other privacy matters mentioned by Laurie
I can only say..., Welcome to the Future :-/

where Data is the new "water" and a broadband 24/7 connection is the new "indoor plumbing" separating the have's from the have not's

I recently got my first real"smart phone",Samsung Galaxy,

and was surprised to find, in my "phone contacts", every person I have ever emailed from my google based "Gmail" account including some former freelance clients with whom I parted ways on less than amicable terms.

This invasive new paradigm is becoming the new normal.
and your viable, realistic options for "opting out" completely are quickly dissappearing.

I think I'm going to learn linux once and for all. This windows nonsense is just getting on my nerves.

" Windows phones had finally gotten good too. They are headed to join the final resting place of the Zune."

Yeah they recently "charged off " the entire cost of their purchase

of Nokia. It does not really matter how good the hardware is anymore

if there is not enough content available from Day one.

Just look at the utter  rubbish korean & chinese Android phone hardware on the low end. but the content for them is abundant.

My personal view is that Microsoft never really grasped the Difference between a personal Production device and a pure Consumption device.

 Take the Surface Tablets for Example

as a pure consumption device it is way overpriced and poorly supported by third party content makers.

why would I spend $500 for a device just to monkey around on social media when there are less expensive android based tablets flooding the market with access to all of the thousands of android apps .

Ahh but you can do more than just "monkey around on social media"

with a Surface you can use it like a real laptop and do real work on it.

Yes but a very under powered Laptop IMHO

and for that money I would buy a used gamers laptop of craigslist and have a really decent graphics card to run my 3D/CG production rendering programs. 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe if you have updates configured to only receive Important updates you shouldn't have any problem.
I've never had Optional updates turned on.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe if you have updates configured to only receive Important updates you shouldn't have any problem.
I've never had Optional updates turned on.

I don't think you have that option in Windows 10, in the Home versions there is very little if any control, other versions you can delay the updates but I believe it is the only Enterprise version that gives you the level of control that we have at the moment in Windows 7. I am more than happy for anyone to correct me if I am wrong as this is a major sticking point on be upgrading and I am beginning to look at the alternatives.

I'm on Win 7 Home, my settings are to never check for updates (I do it manually) with both recommended updates and allow all users unchecked.

When manually checking for updates, two links will show up, one for important updates (all selected) and optional updates (all unselected).
I just updated, and I'm ashamed to say there were 40 important updates. When the smoke cleared there was no mention of Win 10 anywhere.

I did look through the optional updates and the KB3035583 update mentioned by Dreamlandmodels was in the optional section and unselected, so it wasn't a factor in my update.
As far as Win 10, it was not an option for me. Or maybe I'm misunderstanding, and MS isn't offering free Win 10 for Win 7 users?

I'm on Win 7 Home, my settings are to never check for updates (I do it manually) with both recommended updates and allow all users unchecked.

When manually checking for updates, two links will show up, one for important updates (all selected) and optional updates (all unselected).
I just updated, and I'm ashamed to say there were 40 important updates. When the smoke cleared there was no mention of Win 10 anywhere.

I did look through the optional updates and the KB3035583 update mentioned by Dreamlandmodels was in the optional section and unselected, so it wasn't a factor in my update.
As far as Win 10, it was not an option for me. Or maybe I'm misunderstanding, and MS isn't offering free Win 10 for Win 7 users?

I misunderstood your original post, I now understand what you were saying about optional updates.   As far as I know Windows 10 is free to anyone running a valid version of Windows 7 or 8 but you will find that the option you have on Windows update in Windows 7 Home does not exist in Windows 10 home.  Also if you do update to Windows 10, you have 30 days in which you can reverse the update after which time the Windows 7/8 license number is made invalid.

Realize that Android and Macs have virus writers targeting them both too. The more popular an OS is, the more criminals and vandals will be writing for them. There are software packages that do tell you what's going out and to where, but really whatever happened to being used like a tv, without makers and websites monitoring what you're doing and looking at?

Also some warning news about the update and install of Win 10. Windows 10 "borrows" some ideas from Linux and Bit Torrent. Windows 10 will (at least the early versions pre-release) function like Bit Torrent, sharing your update and install. No personal info is shared. Imagine you download the updates to a temp folder, well the contents of the temp folder are shared among other MS users to make the installs go faster. Downside is this does use up your bandwidth (upload). I believe it was talked about a way to turn this "feature" off.

There's a metaphor here about one company having the lions share of the market place and doing whatever it wants (ignoring most consumer's). It used to be (and kind of still is) AT&T as controlling most phones in the US. On a side note, to those who say I don't use AT&T, unlucky Verizon Wireless, AT&T Mobility, Sprint and T-Mobile users discovered that when a certain piece of AT&T equipment goes down, that their networks go down as well. In this recent case, almost all telecommunications in the state it happened were using one piece of AT&T for  their networks.  This happened August 5th throughout Indiana, Kentucky, Tennessee and Alabama due to a hardware failure in backhaul network.

 I installed W10 and found it to be aimed at people who live on the WWW. There was an option to revert to W7 and that is what I did. What we need is an operating system for producers(W7) and a different one for usures (W10?)

You can turn off the update sharing in Windows 10, or set it to only do it on your network.

I haven't gotten anything about an update, but I won't even consider it until at least 10.1, anyway.

Having said that.my Mom updated hers last week and had no issues except her sound didn't work.  I fixed that by activating the Administrator account, logging in, and....it was fixed!  I'm apparently a Genius!! :D

I haven't gotten anything about an update, but I won't even consider it until at least 10.1, anyway.

Having said that.my Mom updated hers last week and had no issues except her sound didn't work.  I fixed that by activating the Administrator account, logging in, and....it was fixed!  I'm apparently a Genius!! :D

Careful, MS will hire you and give you 100,000 calls to fix various complaints... lol

I haven't got my update yet. My parents did their laptop with out much trouble. (They had to find the new solitaire their shortcut was gone) So it can't be too bad.

Once you are back in Windows 7 or your OS, open Windows Updates and find said update as well as the

Upgrade to Windows 10 Pro

Highlight them both and choose hide updates.

Where do I find this? I have uninstalled the update but I cannot find the above mentioned! Windows 10 is still trying to install. Cheers 

After you uninstall the two mentioned updates, reboot, then check for updates. When those two update numbers pop up again - and they will -  select each one and then right click and chose "Hide".

Laurie

a tech at work told me the usage agreement to the win10 free upgrade includes consent to sell personal data.  basically, waving privacy legalities.

but i guess they're all doing it now.

a tech at work told me the usage agreement to the win10 free upgrade includes consent to sell personal data.  basically, waving privacy legalities.

but i guess they're all doing it now.

I've long since given up on the idea that anything from a big corporation could be truly FREE. 

 I am back on Windows 7. I uninstalled that update too. We shall see what happens now.

In the settings app, there is an option to go back to your previous OS if you have only had Windows 10 for a month.

I did that. 

I may well be in the market for a new machine soon.  Hope I can get W7 installed. All the snooping stuff won't play well in the UK but since our regulators have no clue/teeth, what they do about it, if anything, remains to be seen.

 I am going to go on Amazon when I am flush again and see if I can get a copy of it. 7 Ultimate 64 bit would be awesome, but I'd settle for Home Premium.

Rokket,

Try here. Windows 7 Pro

It is at New Egg

Tom

 Wow, that's cheap! Thanks for the link!

I just have to see what I can scrape together before it's gone. 

NP

So far Microsoft has lost me until I can modify colors on the task bar and menus etc.

From what I read online today, Microsoft has taken that color choice away from windows 10.

They call it accent color now and it effects your task bar and the window frames all at once.

Microsoft, Why?

What advantage is there in taking away things that people are so used to using?

Renamed Windows Explorer to something else, I forget what it is.

It almost seems like Microsoft wants to make people give up on Windows.

Really guys, what gives?

I am at a loss...

Tom

 sad fact is ........ at some point you will have to upgrade to win 10 (or 11/12 if you wait long enough lol) or (dare I say) move to Linux / other. I have put it on my "oldest" comp, I don't like the way it looks (reminds me of some old DOS proggys) , am sure someone will make something to change that in time.

Can't move to anything other than windows as 3D Studio Max will only work in Windows.
Tom