Quote - " It's been a while since the artist Community was changed to merely "Art" - this isn't about the people here any more."

Hasn't been for a long time ... since about .. oh... around the time that every artist communitiy became a 3d Marketplace have any questions about the primary function of this site? look at the title bar of your IE/Netscape/firefox window. The logo may say art community but the title bar says it all "Renderosity Marketplace".

problem with that is that if i export it from rhino and then morph and export again from rhino... the scabbard isn't wwhere i want it in poser. so then my morph will move the whole scabbard around to pt it where it thinks it wants it.. :( The situation has gotten even more creative. I took the scabbard back into rhino. exported it right back out as scabbard2.obj exported it right back out again as scabbard2-bend.obj (note there was not even any point editing done) import scabbard2.obj in poser try to load scabbard2-bend.obj in as a morph target and get ... you'll love this "Target geometry has wrong number of vertices" How the @#$@#$^%#$&^U&^%(@#^#^&!@#%$%^*&@#$^$%&$&#;$% do you get that!?!?!?!?!?! it's the exact same boody @&#;$%ing model!!!!!!! i am at this point contemplating pulling tha backing off completely and just not having it ergo removing the need for morph targets all together.

nods i'll have to try it after work tonight maybe :)

the problem is it's all 1 obj. i can't export the seperate bits.

whoot dances around at everything momodot has been ranting about ... ALL HAIL MOMODOT!!! Fianally some one with a clue! Why load a 90k poly figure to cover the whole figure with another 100k or more worth of polys for clothes, hair, and props !!!! Daz introduced the more polys is better blot-o-matic propoganda and every one and thier dog bought into it. to heck with the fact that vicky 1 looked like a man, vicky 2 wasn't much better and vicky 3 is so polybloated that even trying to clother her will get you arrested for cruelty to a pc! More polys and it's from daz so it's gotta be good .. puke and stahls stuff beats the heck out of anything daz has released. Seriously Zygote started getting a little popular because they were starting to make somewhat descent stuff at the time. They turned into DAZ the merchant mega monster, and then all of a sudden every artist community turned into a "3d content marketplace" everybody had to have thier own store to make a buck and everyone who could halfway work photoshop or a 3d app became a "merchant" as for "i have so much invested in vicky 3 i won't go to vicky4" well guess what. people said the same thing about going from vicki1 to vicki2 and going from vicki2 to vicki3. Daz will stop developing for vicky3 because she'll be "obsolete" Every merchant will start developing fir vicki4 because she's "the next big thing from daz" (big will probably be right. wonder if they can bloat her over 125k pologons). So when the merchants stop developing for v3 you'll "have" to upgrade to v4 or youll just be stuck with the same old stuff.. it's a cycle designed to keep you wasting your money on completely upgrading you current stuff to whatever's "new" i descided to heck with it i'll just learn to make my own stuff then if i can't find what i want i'll make my own. I remember a time when people used to release GOOD stuff into the free stuff sections. like thier best works. And don't get me wrong theres still some good freebies to be had but there are very very few of us who release our best stuff for free, and bother with making rsrs's that looks descent, and mat poses, and uvmap everything. Then again i also remember a time when you'd post an image in a gallery and get 60 - 100 vews and at leas 20 or 30 comments. many of those comments would contain advice and tips not just "Nice pic". The community has lost the "community" it feels more like sellers and buyers with the galleries as an excuse to keep selling and buying. And i'm not just talking about here, i'm talking just about everywhere!

i'm a little curtious if it would be possible to do morph targets to reposition the sword to fit p4 fem and v3 and if that would be better than the individual pp2's. Then i ould just have a left and right. But at the same time will it increase the package size by bloating the pp2? hrmm.... i may have some experimenting to do.

PP2's are done .. I did a right and left hand pp2 for posette and v3. i don't want this to turn into bloatware so i stopped there. Rsr's are done and lookin nice. and now i'm workin on building the scabbard. I have the basic shape done .. now i just have to do all the details and make it spiffy, then poserize it!

I would bump map and texture .. it'll look descent enough and will not add poly's. Unless i needed to put something in the pocket then i'd model it..

ROFL! I'm so glad i'm not the only one that will pose in front of a mirror to get an idea of what my poses should look like in poser!!!

well Tormie runs posette forever and the TOS is rather strict about linking to and posting NOTHING commercial. They are very set against a market place and i can't say i blame them. But theres still TONS of freebies out there. Another good resource is Google. Try searching for +posette +download .. or get more speific as you need. like +posette +shoes od +posette +boots it's hit and miss but i've found a lot ofgood stuff just doing google searches.

There are a few of us who still make stuff for posette. but you'll usually find our stuff in free stuff sections. Do a few searches for p4 fem here and at 3dcommune and posetteforever you might find more than you thought was out there.... and for free even.

Edited to remove my personal views of the shift from content creators/artists to salespeople / buyers.

Message edited on: 03/30/2006 17:48

Oh oner thing i'd like ... knees and elnows! The problem is it's useful for armour for adding armoured bits to cover those pieces. and of course knee and lebo pads for sports scenes i guess .. but for most clothing it might be a hinderance. It might work if the group was kept really really small though. Unfortunately with poser's rigging if you put any kind of armour over knees and elbows you get really limited. You have two options for doing it and both are bad. a conforming figure would bend in ways that will crush armour that normally wouldn't bend but rather be hinged on rivits. So if you have a really nice knee guard with a clover leaf shaped side wing.. when the leg bends you have compacted mush. If you go the smart prop route you either have to parent to the thigh/shin or for the arms, shldr/forearm. This causes thos smart props to fold out with one group and ignore the other so the bending looks bad. since most folks won't care for the added groups i'll just hush up now.

Hrmm.. yet another female figure. I kinda agree with many of the points in here. Yes one can be used but only if it's done right. I also like lower poly figures. Hence the reason why i still only work with posette. Super high poly figures are great for nudes. Nudes aren't my thing though. I've a long standing argument of why load a massively high poly figure only to cover it in massively high poly armour (platemail bikini's not my thing either). My scalemail works descently because it was made for a low poly figure. Something like that for vicky3... if you tried to get more than maybe 2 of her in a scene, at most, your pc would cry. havn't had the $$$ to get or play with appolo. I've heard lots of nice things about him and if everyone likes him that much then a female variant might not be a bad idea at all. Of course then i'd have to buy clothes and such for him and her and then it just becomes a huge cash outlay for a hobby and thus by default yet another topic for me and the wife to argue about ;)

most om my freebies are avilable at 3 locations. the other two can be found by doing google search for:

+mordikar +freestuff

There now i've poosted additional locations and didn't break TOS
These other two sites also have part 2 of the archery set ... i don't know why but for some reason Rosity never approved the second freebie. I'll have to repost it soon for this contest.

Message edited on: 03/29/2006 17:04

LOL .. what ever gets the creative juices flowing.