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Anyway, that did the trick. I turned the strength down in increments of 5% until the veins were not so prominent.
Thanks very much. Good to learn new things :)
Thread: Question re: Credits in Poser renders | Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL
Thanks for the input everyone. I have to say I'm still pretty much undecided what to do, but I expect by the time I actually get around to getting the page up that the decision will make itself. As far as who will see my page, my "main" graphics page is for PhotoImpact basically. I have various free items for PI and I get a fair number of hits (especially considering it hasn't been updated in probably 2 years really). I do really like unzipped's idea of a credits page that is independant of any particular render and am seriously considering going that route since that would also be easy to update as I upload new images. Thanks again for the input :) Towal
Thread: Question re: Credits in Poser renders | Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL
Thanks everyone for the replies so far. You've covered most of the things that went through my mind when trying to decide which way to go. Unzipped: I agree with you and that was one of the first thoughts I had when trying to decide. I've seen things a number of times and then went to purchase/download them after seeing the credits. As I said I certainly do not mind giving credits and do at least try to have manners (though I'm sure some would disagree given the threads I've posted on here ;). I was mainly curious to see what the "norm" for the community was. One thought I had regarding only giving credits on free stuff is that I sorta wonder if that wouldn't give the illusion that I did everything else myself. Of course people in the Poser World would know that was not the case, but Joe Public might not. Does anyone have any opinion on that one way or the other? Thanks again, Towal
Thread: Kiki butterflies? | Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL
I would also love to see these butterflies available. I currently have Mehndi's. I would definately buy these if they are made available.
Thread: Religious Pics In Poser Gallery | Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL
Xeno: np. I'm going offline for a while myself in just a bit. That quote you posted from 52 is in response to this: I applaude Nathalie for her beliefs that shows an example of our Lord Jesus' sacrifice for us. This image is an example of the greatest act of love ever done by anyone who ever walked this earth. Which is exactly what I said. The only people spouting their personal beliefs and saying in essence there is only ONE true God/Reglion are the Christians. That, IMO, is not a terribly tolerant point of view. There must be thousands of recognized religions in the world. Interestingly, if you look in webster's dictionary they define both Voodoo and Wiccan as religions, but they do not Satanism (which I think is normally classified as a religion). MysticMind: I had to go back and reread your posts because nothing from them stuck out in my mind as being particularly "preachy". Having reread them I still feel that way. You have expressed how you feel without saying there is only ONE true way to believe. There is only ONE true God/religion. While you did post your beliefs, it was not done in a judgemental way, IMO. That cannot be said for some of the other Christian posts in this thread (again IMO).
Thread: Religious Pics In Poser Gallery | Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL
Ok. point them out to me. Show me where someone has said do away with the religion category. Show me where anyone has said anything negative about this picture except that it is a TOS violation. Where has anyone said this is more than a TOS violation except the Christians? Where has anyone spouted anything about their particular belief (ie: the TRUTH, morals, there is only one true God/religion) other than the Christians? I reread the thread after I posted and I do not see either of those things so show me what I am missing.
Thread: Religious Pics In Poser Gallery | Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL
I have yet to see anyone say do away with the religion category in the gallery. I have yet to see anyone say anything negative about this picture other than it is a TOS violation. No one has been spouting religion, except for the Chrisitans. No one has passed any judgement on anything other than the TOS violation (as it is currently written), except the Christians. The only ones claiming that this issue is more than a TOS violation are the Christians. Fact remains had it not been brought to the forum many people (myself included) would not have even seen the pic and therefore would not have complained about the TOS violation. This is not the first pic I have said is a TOS violation (as the TOS was written at the time I posted) and I'm sure it won't be the last. Frankly, the least tolerant people in this thread appear to be the Christians (and in my experience that is almost always how it is in life). I don't peruse the galleries looking for items that might be TOS violations just for something to do. That doesn't mean when I see one I'm not going to say something about it, especially when it is thrust into the forums.
Thread: Religious Pics In Poser Gallery | Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL
A lot of us probably wouldn't have looked at either of those (your picture is a TOS violation IMO as well, btw) had it not been brought to the forum. I personally don't peruse the religion gallery for that reason. When it's brought out though people are going to voice their opinions on the subject. My only opinion on the subject happens to be that it is against the TOS as it is currently written
Thread: Religious Pics In Poser Gallery | Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL
You sound like a reasonable sort. You are not incoherently passionate -- unlike some others.
I'm sure you could find people that would argue that ;)
I agree that anytime you bring religion into something you are going to find people that will find something to have an issue with. I think that is true of almost anything actually, though there are some topics that are worse than others (religion and politics being the 2 biggest IMO).
It's soooooooooooooooo much easier to complain than to be responsible for your own actions. Though after reading the thread here on age (and when you got your first computer) I'm a little bit surprised it happens here as much as it does. In my experience, that kind of attitude is generally from a younger set of people.
I think adults should be able to censor themselves without the aid of all kinds of intervention. I, for example, simply pass over items that are not of interest to me rather than expecting someone else to censor something simply because it is not something that I wish to see. I would not presume to think that simply because it is of no interest to me personally that it is of no interest period.
I would never have seen the image at discussion here because I don't look in the religion gallery (again, I think the image is wonderfully done).
I have not seen a lot of religion bashing in this thread (other than at the end there where someone got a touch preachy which I personally do find exceedingly offensive). Most of the people involved in this thread that are having issue are the same ones that pop into any thread where the ToS is being applied selectively/randomly/unevenly.
Thread: Religious Pics In Poser Gallery | Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL
The only hypocrisy and favoritism that I've seen here comes from those that would claim to espouse "artistic freedom" -- until someone posts a Christian image.
Not from me. I don't care if it's a religious image or an alternate lifestyle image or a heterosexual image. If it violates the ToS it violates the ToS and ALL images that violate the ToS should be treated in the same manner no matter who posts them or what the topic of the render is.
Thread: Religious Pics In Poser Gallery | Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL
Others have clearly stated that they have no desire to see anything "religious" allowed in the galleries
Well that wouldn't just be Christian iconography would it? "Anything religious" would encompass more than just Christianity.
I personally don't care to see religious things (though again I think Nathalie's render is VERY nicely done) so I simply don't peruse the religion catagory. I have nothing against a religion catagory. I have nothing against this particular picture other than it violates the ToS as it is currently written.
A simple change in the ToS to say that religous symbology is allowed and I wouldn't be involved in this thread at all other than to comment on the fact that I think the render is quite well done.
I don't see why a change in ToS is such a big deal. They did it before in the recent past based on another thread where people pointed out that the way it was worded wasn't exactly working as they likely intended. They clearly state they have the right to modify it, so modify it and voila no more problem.
I have a guess as to why they are balking about modifying it in this case, but I will keep that to myself for now until I see how this unfolds a bit.
Thread: Religious Pics In Poser Gallery | Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL
there are many valid religions because Christian, My kingdom for an edit feature. This should have said: there are many valid religions besides Christian
Thread: Religious Pics In Poser Gallery | Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL
Then it's simple. Modify the TOS to allow religious iconography and the problem is solved. Of course, it will still be enforced selectively when someone that is not Christian posts an image that falls into that catagory, I imagine, but maybe I'll be surprised and it will be applied uniformly. I personally liked the image and was not offended by it despite not being religious. I'm glad someone posted it because I wouldn't have seen it otherwise since I don't peruse the religion section. The entire point is that the ToS is selectively enforced. This on the other hand: On a side note, those who place more of a significance on the TOS rather the depiction of the greatest act of love from a man who represents the one and only true "religion" I pray for each and everyone one of you that you find Jesus. I find incredibly offensive, especially given that this is an international venue and there are many valid religions because Christian. It's funny how Christians tend to be the most judgemental people that I run into both in real life and on the internet. Towal (raised Catholic. Now agnostic.)
Thread: Religious Pics In Poser Gallery | Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL
Do you really think that we just randomly enforce the TOS?
yep. In the short time I have been here I have seen it randomly enforced more times than I can count on two hands.
We had this discussion before, Bruce and I still feel the same way. The TOS IS being selectively enforced.
You can't say the rules are the rules except and then say it's not being selectively enforced. The "except" means it is in fact being selective.
Towal
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