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Subject: Thumbnails


bwtr ( ) posted Mon, 10 April 2006 at 2:25 AM · edited Thu, 06 February 2025 at 12:47 PM

I have just downloaded the Microsoft "Expressions" app and it, as well, can not thumbnail Adobe psd files. How utterly stupid!

bwtr


ARTWITHIN ( ) posted Mon, 10 April 2006 at 3:57 AM

Save it as a .psd in Expressions (check out export/import for the options to save as .psd), then open in Photoshop and Save for Web to the size you want for the thumbnail. That is what I do. I use PS CS2. Don't know if you have that ability in some older versions. If not, indicate what version of PS you use in your reply. I'm sure others will have more suggestions for you. Hope it helps. Suzanne



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bwtr ( ) posted Mon, 10 April 2006 at 5:32 AM

Thanks but that is not (or the reverse) of the problem. It boils back to the PhotoshopCS1 and 2 installations, where you can not view psds in Windows files as thumbnails. Only in the Bridge-which is a real pain.

bwtr


nattarious ( ) posted Mon, 10 April 2006 at 9:05 AM

Hello bwtr.. The only way to show PSD formats on your pc.. is like you said.. Bridge.. which is a bit pain.. specially for slow computers and slow connections.. becasue for some reason it connects to the internet.. and if you will disable your connection it won't make it to load faster by the way. You can use the Program it self, ACD Premium, Corel Viewer. Other then that.. I really don't know how to help.. I use my PSD since it is a Photoshop Format.. ONLY! under my photoshop CS2 program Regards JOE

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archdruid ( ) posted Mon, 10 April 2006 at 9:10 AM

You just tell bridge to make it available to explorer.Lou.

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ARTWITHIN ( ) posted Mon, 10 April 2006 at 10:08 AM

I save my thumbnails as jpeg. I can see those.



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ARTWITHIN ( ) posted Mon, 10 April 2006 at 10:10 AM

By the way, I also save my image as a copy in jpeg.



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bwtr ( ) posted Mon, 10 April 2006 at 7:48 PM

Interesting about the different way people work! Archdruid, you have said the solution. Can you tell me how to do it please? ps. I have some small programmes which can read those psds as thumbnails but not any of the Windows/Explorer files thumbnail them. Most peculiar.

bwtr


bwtr ( ) posted Mon, 10 April 2006 at 8:18 PM

I found that "Reveal in Explorer"-- why would you use that when it only works when you are in Bridge where they reveal anyway? If I can not covert it into a permanent arrangement it seems one of those nonsence options.

bwtr


gradient ( ) posted Mon, 10 April 2006 at 9:57 PM

Forgive me if I'm missing the point of discussion here...but...Windows will thumbnail psd files....If you do the following; In PS, go to Edit, preferences, file handling, set image previews to ALWAYS SAVE. Your icon will now be a thumb of the psd image.

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bwtr ( ) posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 1:57 AM

Thanks Gradient, but PS has always been set there. The attached screen shot shows a My Pictures file when viewed in Windows/Explorer. That no thumbnails are visible is obvious. The problem is in any Windows product but not with many other apps. Very odd---it started with Photoshp Cs--no problem previously.

bwtr


bwtr ( ) posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 1:59 AM

Thanks Gradient, but PS has always been set there. The attached screen shot shows a My Pictures file when viewed in Windows/Explorer. That no thumbnails are visible is obvious. The problem is in any Windows product but not with many other apps. Very odd---it started with Photoshp Cs--no problem previously.

bwtr


bwtr ( ) posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 2:04 AM

file_337688.jpg

The attachment

bwtr


dreamer101 ( ) posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 10:52 AM

For anyone who regularly uses Photoshop, but has moved to a new PC and installed Photoshop CS, you may have noticed that you are unable to view PSD files as thumbnails in Windows Explorer any longer. For an unknown reason, Adobe has seen fit to remove this particular functionality from Photoshop. You may not have noticed this if you upgraded your version of Photoshop from a previous version, as the ability to display PSD files as thumbnails is driven by a DLL file that was distributed previously, but is now strangely absent. BUT.... You can download the .dll Photoshop CS .PSD Thumbnails in Windows Explorer


gradient ( ) posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 2:51 PM

Looks like dreamer101 has solved the problem!  I do not have the CS version...so...it was not an issue for me.

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dreamer101 ( ) posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 6:48 PM

It should apply to the CS2 as well. I'm using CS and it works.


bwtr ( ) posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 7:01 PM

Thanks for that dreamer. Going to that site and seeing it was not me or my computer at fault was a great relief.

bwtr


dreamer101 ( ) posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 8:59 PM

Your welcome. I do come in handy occasionally. :biggrin:


nattarious ( ) posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 9:34 PM · edited Tue, 11 April 2006 at 9:35 PM

I agree with gradient...

I was missing something before in that post tho..

what gradient said is totally right tho.. in fact.. if your PS is uptodate or even not. It should enable that option by its self.. And i can see my PSD thumbnails and even the PNG under my windoes explorer without any difficulties :-

That is very strange! and i don't know what really to tell tho.

I know that PS7 had difficulties for sure.. and it was solved when i tuned my OS registry to show all kind of thumbnail.. no matter what format. But with the time and the newer versions like CS1 OR CS2.. It shows up with them selves..

Thanks again and hope you can solve that problem.. I will seach some places online and i will post you an answer later today..

Thank you again..

JOE

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nattarious ( ) posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 9:43 PM

Ok.. here is a final solution..

I don't knot why it didn't install that missing thumb .dll file.. But read this please carefully:

If you have upgraded from a previous version of Photoshop to Photoshop CS you will be OK but a fresh install of CS will NOT included thumbnail previews of PSDs. However I have discovered how to fix this, all we need is a missing DLL to be placed in the right folder.

  1. Download psicon.dll from DLL Dump
  2. Place the DLL in C:Program FilesCommon FilesAdobeShell
  3. Thumbnail previews of PSD files are now back

Simple but essential functionality. It does make you wonder why Adobe saw fit to remove the thumbnail preview in the first place!

I still don't know why.. i install the CS2 directly on any of my machines.. either PC or MAC and i can see them.. But hree is the .DLL file.. please follow the above instructions and it will work..

 

NOTE!! I TESTED THAT FILE MY SELF.. AND IT IS AN ADOBE CERTIFIES .DLL FILE.. The file has been scanned and it is 100% clean..

 

Hope that will solve your problem.

Regards

JOE

NATTARIOUS[C] IS A WELL KNOWN INTERNATIONAL CLUB DJ - PHOTOGRAPHER - GRAPHIC AND COMMERCIAL DESIGNER AND THE OWNER OF XOOM STUDIOS PRODUCTIONS & CERTIFIED LEGAL GOLD MICROSOFT PARTNER!

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dreamer101 ( ) posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 10:32 PM

That's word for word from the link I posted. Problem has already been solved.


nattarious ( ) posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 10:42 PM

LOL!! Dreamer hehe.. the reason i posted that.. when i clicked your link.. the site opens with menu.. but with a white content :)

Oh well.. Sorry then.. double post and glad he fixed it.. or you did..

But that info even from the Adobe site it self is wrong for 100 & 1% because as soon as i install my CS2.. they shows right away under my explorer.. I am using the American/Canadian of CS2 and the CS2-ME Edition as well.. and never heard or faced that issue..

Thanks and regrads.. And respect :)

JOE

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dreamer101 ( ) posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 10:50 PM

If you scroll down on the my link you will see it. I know top had menus and white space.

Since you had PS7 installed at one point, your computer already had the required .dll file.


nattarious ( ) posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 11:15 PM · edited Tue, 11 April 2006 at 11:21 PM

Thank you for your answer again dreamer :) But i never had Photoshop7 installed at all on this workstation! For real.. First of all it is a brand new one. Which i got to custom build it my self to fit my overloaded needs  two weeks ago.. And you know that when you upgrade specially your motherboard or processor your older operating system will show you the Blue death screen and it won't boot.. Since it was configured to the older hardware.. So i had reinstall my Workstation OS again from the very beggining with all the needed softwares..

The version i am using now is the CS2 Upto date version. Installed right away on the new system.. But never had that problem :) it showed me all the thumbs right away without any missing .dlls or such as mentioned!

You know that many people don't update their software tho.. When ever i install the adobe products or any other software.. I have to update them before i use them.. could it be fixed in any of the updates! I don't know.. Becasue as i mentioned as soon i install it, it shows my thumbs right away.. and on my external HDDs or even Optical drives..

All i can tell that i heard alot from many others about this issue.. and i have a coporate business account with Adobe INC. and i will search with them tommorow and discuss that issue.. Becasue i am positive about what i am talking about.. And they have to remove that wrong info or note about their issue from their website..

I will install windows on a brand new sealed hard drive now with no additional softwares or drivers.. after the windows is done.. I will install the PS-CS2 right away.. just to make sure.. And i won't update it as well.. then i will hit you back and then i will call them tommorow with an answer.

 

The questions is now! Is every one is using an origianl copy! of that product! Tricky eh! the reason also i asked.. Becasue i donated one of my coporate keys to a very well known artist here on Rosity almost 6 days ago.. And since it is one of my keys i had to call the company to take that key out of my list and register it to that person. Which i did that with him online.. And guess what! He had no adobe at all!! and i asked him! and it shows the thumbs!! interesting and confusing at the same time..

Don't worry.. I will hit you back with an honest answer.. As soon as am done.. and i have to report that to Adobe becasue i am a certified Microsoft  & Adobe BetaTester.. But been real busy the past three to four months with my Audio and Commercial orders.. I really need to rest for a very long time.. why don't we goto THAILAND for a visit! :)

 

Regards..

 

JOE

NATTARIOUS[C] IS A WELL KNOWN INTERNATIONAL CLUB DJ - PHOTOGRAPHER - GRAPHIC AND COMMERCIAL DESIGNER AND THE OWNER OF XOOM STUDIOS PRODUCTIONS & CERTIFIED LEGAL GOLD MICROSOFT PARTNER!

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dreamer101 ( ) posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 11:38 PM · edited Tue, 11 April 2006 at 11:50 PM

Out of curiousity, do you have the psicon.dll in your C:Program FilesCommon FilesAdobeShell ? Just wondering if some other Adobe software installed it. It still is possible that certain versions of CS2 has included the .dll. That link was from beginning of January 2005 regarding CS vs older versions. Actually, I use an older version (the last fast loading version) of ACDSee to view all my file types including my .psd files and leave my windows folders set to icons rather than thumbnails.

You might be certified but i'm certifiable :tongue2: Think I need that vacation.


gradient ( ) posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 11:56 PM

Joe; Will the thumbs show up for psds created BEFORE the install of the missing dll?....or will the thumbs only show up for ones created after the dll was installed?

The reason I ask is that if the image preview setting was checked later...it would only show the thumbs for the ones created after checking Image preview...even though the dll already exisited....

Yes, a vacation is in order for me too!!!

In youth, we learn....with age, we understand.


nattarious ( ) posted Wed, 12 April 2006 at 1:24 AM

Hello dreamer101 and gradient..

Ok guys.. i am done with my test.. and i am 1000% positive..

here is my results..

1- Brand new hard drive (FACTORY SEALED) was opened..

2- Took out one of my worksatations Hard out..

3- Installed the new hard drive with a brand new fresh windows xp/sp2

4- Updated my windows to the latest update

5- No hardware drivers were installed

6- Installed Adobe Photoshop CS2 (ORIGINAL COPY)

7- Inseted attached my external HDD USB2.0 storage Drive...

8- It saw all my .PSD files as a thumb nails!!!

9- Surprise!! The .DLL file is in place and was installed!!

10- Uninstalled the CS2

11- Deleted every single track to adobe from my registery and my common files/Adobe

12- Installed my second version: Adobe CS2 - ME (ME=MiddleEast to support MiddleEastern languages)

13- Guess what! The file was installed again and i was able to see my thumbs!!

So after all i can tell after that test.. It is not the version or the update.. Becasue i didn't update any of those two versions.. I can tell it could be with the Pirated COPIES!!

And my question is.. How many person out of 100 buying a US.$ 699.99 for a software these days with all those Torrents and ED2K links and the sharing progz online! Does that make sense! :) My guess is 1 out of hundred if not ZERO ;) and it is a face

I am forced to use about 50 licences of adobe CS2. But they are all origianl tho.. so i have to report this tommorow to the Adobe Coporate Help Desk to take that wrong or false info out of their website. Becasue i am sure it is wrong..!!

Unless!! There was an update from MicroSoft solved that issue..!! it is also posible.. but again.. since no one now can update any pirated copy.. even with those unworking cracks or patches as people or others call it. I mean the service pack 1 and 2.. But i have a doubt about that.. I don't think it is MicroSoft..

Now all i know that who ever complains about this issue has something wrong.. I mentioned earlier that i donated a full licenced copy out of my 18 left from my 50's to a member here on Rosity SORRY WON'T MENTION NAMES and he never had any photoshop even installed ever on his older system.. I asked him and it did show him the thumbs!!!

So that is really all i have for now.. and i did what i can.. and all my results are accurate.. So please if you are using an original copies.. You have a life free support from Adobe.. You cancontact them by phone. mails, or live chat if you are a registered customer..

 

Thanks and many regards and much much respect to all of you my friends

 

JOE

 

Now it is time to bed cause i spent to much time on this issue.. Good night to all

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dreamer101 ( ) posted Wed, 12 April 2006 at 1:59 AM

OK. I believe you. I don't even have CS2 anyways and it wasn't my problem to begin with either. I was just trying to help bwtr. It was probably something Adobe reconsidered with CS2 after complaints of CS not showing .psd thumbnail. Can I still go to Thailand? 😉


dreamer101 ( ) posted Wed, 12 April 2006 at 2:24 AM

BTW bwtr. I just noticed your desktop in background of the screenshot you did. Do you always keep so many folders and shortcuts on your desktop? You have every inch covered.


bwtr ( ) posted Wed, 12 April 2006 at 3:57 AM

Firstly, ALL my AdobeCS2 Suite is FULL priced, registered etc! Going on the other thread, the problem is pretty widespread with those having CS, and Adobe admits not putting the apropriate dll into PhotoshopCS apparently.

Dreamer, probably only half of the programmes have icons on the desktop! I only display those I use fairly regularly. A lot are freebees but they come in handy to do small specific things promptly and easily.

bwtr


retrocity ( ) posted Wed, 12 April 2006 at 10:06 AM

the issue with the "PSICON dll" is a long running situation between Microsoft and Adobe.

some of you will remember having problems "saving" a file you've been working on and getting an "error" message saying something like "CAN NOT SAVE FILE "..." BECAUSE IT IS ALREADY OPEN" and the only recourse is to attempt to save the file under another name and try and delete the old file (which often refused to delete because it would say it "was still open by another program").

this was because of the way windows explorer would display the files thumbnail and not release the file properly... Microsoft in it's arrogance blamed Adobe for the problem and refused to resolve it so Adobe eliminated the functionality.

 

i'm glad you can still find access to the DLL but keep in mind, you may still find yourself with the "open file but can't save" problem...

 

:)

retrocity


dreamer101 ( ) posted Wed, 12 April 2006 at 10:23 AM

I hate to continue this BUT ... why would one user with a fresh install of CS2 have the psicon.dll and the other not have the it? And was the issue of  "CAN NOT SAVE FILE "..." BECAUSE IT IS ALREADY OPEN" because of the psicon.dll or the fact that you have option set to Thumbnails?


nattarious ( ) posted Wed, 12 April 2006 at 5:48 PM · edited Wed, 12 April 2006 at 5:50 PM

Hello all..

I reported that issue to Adobe Inc. after another tests as well.. The .DLL file installs its self tho in the right place.. And don't know why some of you are complaining... And about the cannot save error.. I never had it even once in my whole life..

Thanks  And Best regards..

JOE

 

As soon i will get my Adobe results.. I will post it here with a screen shot of the attached email

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ARTWITHIN ( ) posted Wed, 12 April 2006 at 6:25 PM

Thanks nattarious.  I've been following this thread and doing what was suggested.  Thumbs enabled.  I did not have the psicon.dll so downloaded it and put it where instructed.  I still can't see thumbs.  I have a legal, registered app., PS CS2.  Will follow this until it works or no solution in sight.

Suzanne



“Music is harmony, harmony is perfection, perfection is our dream, and our dream is heaven”
Henri Frederic Amiel

 


retrocity ( ) posted Wed, 12 April 2006 at 7:07 PM

Quote - ...was the issue of  "CAN NOT SAVE FILE "..." BECAUSE IT IS ALREADY OPEN" because of the psicon.dll or the fact that you have option set to Thumbnails?

that, was the bases for the "finger-pointing" - MS said it was because of the DLL and Adobe said it was because of windows explorers "display as thumbnails" so nether would work toward resolving the issue when complaints arose, they'd just say it wasn't their fault...

personally, i don't have the DLL anymore and stopped saving the thumbnails... i use IrfanView ( "iview") to browse through my image directories... it's faster, supports most image formats and NEVER crashes my explorer.

 

:)
retrocity


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