I still think someone at render is selling these emails, or making money on the side by sending spam, themselves.

Tcombs, thats simply not true.

I've had 4 dedicated emails to render and all have spam......you're living in denial.

Well, there have been many, many examples of why you might be getting spam to a dedicated email address in this thread. All we can do is state that Rendo is not selling anyones addies..its up to you to make the choice to believe it or not.

Im not in denial, and I get a spam from time to time...but I just delete it unopened and go on about my day...spam happens, and I dont think anyone is selling my email address because I get a spam mail.

Very strange the the other dedicated email addresses have never had spam in all the years I have used them!
......Daz email for example has never had this problem.....and it is from the same domain email. I have 18 email addresses, and the only ones that have spam are the ones I use in public, and my private render address.  
Just a coincidence?????:))))) I am through trying to argue with you. The fact is, Render has no plans to do anything about this.

"The fact is, Render has no plans to do anything about this."

And why should they?

What can they do about something that is out of their control?

Re-Read the thread carefully...

...The reasons this could be happening is all in the 7 pages of this thread...and the several linked threads.(as well as pictures)

Had you read the entire thread...you would not have said with confidence "I still think someone at render is selling these emails, or making money on the side by sending spam, themselves."

Had you left out the "someone at render" I'd be in total agreement with you...because... **"selling these emails, or making money on the side by sending spam."...**is exactly what is happening...but there is not a shred of proof  that Rosity is doing it...nor that there is anything they can do about it..

There are several reasons why this could be happening...I happen to cling to the most likely and logical reason.

Rather than subscribe to speculation, or conspiracy theories.

I know there is an element in some of us that motivates us to "Expose the Administration of corrupt activities"...and claim hero status for participating in that exposure.

I just happen to rely on facts, rather than **"**I still think".

Because "I Still Think" is not proof...only speculation.

Tom

Soooooo, why isn't happening with my other dedicated email addresses? Never happened at daz and I am using same domain email. You didn't read all of my statements and LMDesign statement before mine.  Renderostiy email address is the only email this is happening to, for me and many other webmasters I know.

So what's so special about my (and others') email address that "someone at render" keeps overlooking it when making up these notional packages to sell to spammers?  It's been on the Rendo files for a couple of years now.  I get the ebots and newsletter and all the other stuff from here, Daz and 3DC, and I still get no spam -- none at all, ever.

This isn't gloating, it's just to say that for your accusation to stand up, most everyone here should have this problem.  As it is, we have no clue how many do and how many don't out of the hundreds of thousands of registered members, since only an estimated dozen or so have complained publicly about it (or a figure of that order of magnitude anyhow).  It strikes me that if the problem were as widespread as is believed, the site would be overwhelmed by complaints.

Attached Link: Can I draw you a Picture? (Link has "kuss werds)

See page 3...Post 11 in this thread...and visit this link:

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?message_id=2948841&ebot_calc_page#message_2948841

This explains "Why" it might not be happening at other sites with dedicated E-Mails.

To: pearce

See Page 4 of this thread...Post 18.

Essentially...only those with dedicated E-Mail addresses would even notice it.

Tom

"Essentially...only those with dedicated E-Mail addresses would even notice it."

Point taken, but given the size of the membership, there must be more than a handful of members with Rendo-only email addys.

But then how many of the `members' are active enough to notice anything that goes on around here?  Oh well -- the email-spam debate will rumble on I guess..

" Oh well -- the email-spam debate will rumble on I guess.."

Sad but true.

Tom

it looks to me, like some are playing with the toy predicting ball again!!

"will i fall in love today?" ........(shake)......"no!"......."dammit!!"

"did rendo sell my e-mail to spammers?".......(shake)......"yes!"........"i knew it!!"

the ball never lies.

I would also like to praise Renderosity's tolerance, in the face of such accusations as " I still believe someone at render is selling our emails"

such an unfounded allegation, with absolutely no evidence to back up such claims, and yet it is allowed to be said and is not deleted from these forums!.

on any other 3D site, that would of been deleted, the member would of probally been banned, and probally a warning to all other members that if they make such statements on their boards such as these, that they also would be banned, without a warning.

it shows that there is a freedom of speech, on these boards, even when unfounded allegations are aimed at Renderosity, they allow you to post them.

I believe Renderosity has done all they can to help those members here that are getting spam from ebot notification, and if there was anything else that they could do to help they would!! but i don't see how Rendo' can help any further, as they have done tests at their end and have found nothing.

if we were to turn the tables here and say that when those that are saying that it is Rendo's fault, post these messages saying so, that Rendo' gets an increase in spam!!, Rendo' then contacts these members and informs them that everytime that they are leaving a message, they are noticing an increase of spam in their inbox! said member then responds saying that they will run virus checks and such, to see if there is something on their machine, after checks they respond to Rendo' saying that nothing is showing up on their machine, Rendo' responds again, saying that it is definately happening everytime that said member makes a post, as the spam arrives minutes after they have made the post,

without a doubt somewhere along the route the message from the member to Rendo' is picking up spam!! ..it is not on members machine and they have checked that it is not on any outgoing messages!...but at what point, along the maze of routers along the way between members computer and Rendo's, does it stop being said members fault?
 
Rendo is still getting spam, but is it the members fault?

how can member help Rendo resolve this?

interestingly the "nigerian scam" didn't originate from Renderosity, it is a well written about scam, that affects many internet users, even those that are not members at Renderosity!!

my only advice to those that can't handle getting these spams while they are members of Rendo' is to turn off all E-bot notifications, turn off "receive newsletter", delete your "free hosted" gallery here (then you will get no notification that someone has favourited you or your images) and if you wish to visit these boards and leave messages, then make sure that you uncheck the "Notify me when someone replies" box everytime you post!! safer still is to just not visit Renderosity!!!.

anyway listen to me or not!, i am just another member exercising his "freedom of speech" on these boards, i am not a representative of Renderosity, and my opinions are just that "my opinions"!!, i am just a fellow member that happens to think that Rendo' has done no wrong here, and am voicing my opinion on this matter, as i am free to do so............so i did!!

"Will Vince3 make me Laugh my F*ckin @ss off?" 

*** Shakes magic 8 Ball Really Really, Really, hard***

Answer "It is Likely"

Hey!!!...This thing really fricken works.

You are right Vince...The Ball never lies...and here I thought those hairs standing up on my neck were telling me otherwise.

8 )~

I couldn't possibly add anything to your last post.

It's simply too perfect to disgrace.

Tom <~~~ LMAO@Vince

HAHA!! 

great a predicting ball that can ask itself questions now!!

but if it were a good predicting ball, it would of already known that it was about to ask itself a question, and already had an answer before it asked the question.

Out of curiosity.....how many of you guys who are getting spam have Verizon as an ISP?  I've never EVER had spam sent to my Mod email through Rendo....and I got at least 30 today ALONE......and I've only had them as my ISP for a few weeks.  I just thought that it may just be a common link.  If not, oh well, but I do now know where my spam is coming from NOW.  sigh

Up until a couple of months ago I never had a single Spam e-mail in 8 years of being online with the same ISP and e-mail address. Then all of a sudden out of the blue every nut in America is either trying to give me a bigger d**k, make it stay bigger with viagra or give me a loan to pay for it!!! And then theres the e-mails full of random words. WTF are they about?
To quote Monty Python "I DONT LIKE SPAM!"

Quote - every nut in America is either trying to give me a bigger d**k, make it stay bigger with viagra or give me a loan to pay for it!!!

ROTFL!! Ok, sorry, that was just too funny...

I get those too in one of my Yahoo accounts....and ummm I dun need them..but they REALLY want me to have it anyway :lol:

just adding something i noticed the other day,

i just finished building my new 'puter the other week, and have been putting my software back on and updating drivers and such, when i noticed i was getting spam again, 

i had done the "let my ISP delete my spam for me" option but was still getting spam, then i went and had a look at my anti-virus software,

i am using McAfee anti-virus, so can only say what is in my console options, you'll have to find the equivalant on your anti-virus software, 

in my console options there is an option for checking "on delivery E-mail scanner", which when double-clicked on will open the options for what should be scanned for, some of them were "unchecked" by default (new install) so they were "checked", and now the spam has stopped again (hoorah!!)

so just mentioning this as it may be relivant to some of you, and may help "Stop the spam" (should be a T-shirt)

BTW, i was getting these everyday, "without" e-bot notifications.

it has only been about three days without spam, so i'll let you know if it stopped all together again in a couple of weeks.

Still going, personally. Been on Comcast for about 1 yr now. Plus the E-mail I use is a private domain through Aplus.net.

The only 2 of the 3 e-mail boxes that get spam are the ones I've used with Rendo. The 3rd is untouched by it. Same domain.

Well I finally did something about it, feed up with these Criminals.

I report the phising and spam daily from both my old renderosity and my new renderosity gmail accounts,  its pretty simple

One page you report the phishing and the next  the spam

There guys chase them up, close the spammers websites plus they are working with the FBI.

Since they closed down Blue Frog with DOS attacks 2 years ago I have been waiting for something like this.  URL Website below, so come on people do you bit, report evidence dont just delete it.

Please note read the FAQ on how to report phishing and spam via the Email reader you are using wether its Gmail or any other free online email service plus all the programs you use.

Excuse my langugue but there pissing me off totally, when they threaten me with fake FBI Phishing emails, enough is enough, all bets are off for these guys, and if you guys are reading bring it on.

I am doing this for all the victims of these criminals that believe all the rubbish posted in their email programs, while I can see that it is fake,  lots of people cannot so this one is for the countless thousands of victims worldwide.

http://www.castlecops.com/

I changed my email and mentioned it in the poser forum and started getting spammed within the hour, so it's definately someone here who is selling emails or, which is worse, just doing it to be a jerk. I had the email changed for about a week before mentioning it so I tend to believe it was one of the users here and not renderosity. And no, I don't have a clue who it is or I would give out their email to anyone who would take it. Changing my mail again and no one is getting it that doesn't need it, and leaving the old one for webmail only.

So it is "username@renderosity.com" that is getting the spam then, Marque?

Quote - I changed my email and mentioned it in the poser forum and started getting spammed within the hour, so it's definately someone here who is selling emails or, which is worse, just doing it to be a jerk. I had the email changed for about a week before mentioning it so I tend to believe it was one of the users here and not renderosity. And no, I don't have a clue who it is or I would give out their email to anyone who would take it. Changing my mail again and no one is getting it that doesn't need it, and leaving the old one for webmail only.

Ok, maybe I didn't get it right the first time.
How could one change their email here? I thought that it was a static "username@renderosity.com" thing. (?)

You can change you email address through your profile on renderosity.
I have done this twice

And I found out half the inheritance scams are being sent from a Wireless Net Provider via Nigeria, you guys think your smart, not matter who many times you try and bounce the emails they will always show the original source, takes some digging but there you go

The others are from Britian and Hong Kong, being routered via Earthlink in the US, so thats what I have sound so far.  As for the Nigerian Scams I suspect Interpol is going to be really happy with all the reports I have sent them.

I have decided the blame game is over, nobody is to blame this for me all started when the server was upgraded.  So now I am having fun reporting them.

Plus  there is a way to report all the phising emails so the hit all of gmail and everyone gets a red flag and knows its a scam.

No sorry my regular email. Didn't get any spam until I mentioned that since I changed providers I wasn't getting spam. Guess someone got ticked off and sold or gave my email addy out because within an hour I was getting slammed. Teach me to mention something like that again. Even renderosity doesn't have the new one.

Hi Marque,

Out of curiosity...are you using an e-mail address provided to you by your ISP?...or do you have your own domain..and are changing the e-mails that way?

The reason I ask, is because...most domains have a "Catch-All" Feature (If you wanna call it that...lol) which used to be enabled by default IIRC(I don't think most hosting companies enable Catch-all by default anymore).

I'm sure you know about that but for those who may not...a "Catch-all" is for if someone mis-spelled your e-mail address...it would still find it's way to the recipient.

For example...my e-mail address is XXXX@hawkfyr.com but if someone inadvertently typed in XXXZ@hawkfyr.com... it would still find me via the "Catch-all"...I've since turned it off (Years ago)...but all the spammer has to know is the domain name (hawkfyr.com)...and they could deploy anything@hawkfyr.com and the catch-all would still find it's way to me.

And as Caly so eloquently put it**..."as soon as an address is "harvested," it gets put out there on a list shared by spammers. once it's harvested, it's compromised."**

If this is not your case...and you are using an ISP provided e-mail address...and started getting spam immediately...I'd be calling them up as well. (Also...there has been a lot of ISP's being purchased, but the old e-mail address will still work.

For example: If Time Warner bought Adelphi...the Adelphi address will still be re-directed and find it's way to the old Adelphi customer...Now lets say Roadrunner Bought Time Warner...now all 3 address will find both those whom have 1)Adelphi.net domains, as well as those who came on-board when 2)Time Warner owned the ISP, as well as 3) the Roadrunner domain as well.

When you changed your e-mail...did you go with an entirely new host and/or provider with a different domain name?...or did you just change the beginning of said e-mail address...but the domain remained the same?

I'm a bit un-clear  as to what you meant when you said "I changed my email and mentioned it in the poser forum"...do you mean that you just mentioned that you had changed your E-Mail address?...or did you "mention"(as in post said e-mail address) in the Poser forum?

Also..is this e-mail used for other e-mail correspondence other than Renderosity..or is it dedicated to just Renderosity?

One more thing...Do you send AND receive e-mail through this new account...or do you only receive messages through it..and reply via another account?

As far as I know...this is the first I've seen of someone switching providers, and started getting spam...so the answers to these questions could be very helpful to weed out other possibilities of how/why this is happening.

Thanks

 8 )

Tom

Second time, Hawk.

And I use a Private Domain E-mail account, E-mail space provided by Aplus. This is the only Site and it's receive only...

So you tell me. I still say there is a security leak somewhere here. 50 pieces of Spam since 9/13.

I have been a programmer, a systems analyst, and am now the network manager for an Application Service Provider on the Internet.  I am not so much an expert on the Internet as a Jack-of-all-trades.  I am certainly willing to consider the possibilities, but I would like those possibilities explained technically and fully, not emotional rhetoric.  From my own experience with the exposure of my email address (that I use ONLY at Rendo) to spammers, I am fairly certain that the exposure is coming from Renderosity.  Or very nearby.  

I do NOT think Renderosity is selling my email address.  I have always found the folks at Renderosity to be quite professional.  I don't believe that they would do anything that lowbrow.

But I DO believe that the email is being exposed and compromised (unintentionally) from Renderosity's side of the fence.

I have a SEPARATE email addres for all my major shopping sites (Rendo, DAZ, Amazon, Buy.com PC Connection, etc.)  If MY computer were compromised I would expect to receive email addressed to several (or all) of those addresses.  But I don't.  Only to my Rendo address.

My email address is at the domain of my employer's company.  I am the manager of that email system (we have our own onsite email server).  I can change my email address at will.  I can have as many email addresses as I want.  If our company email server was compromised, all our employees' email addresses would be compromised.  But they aren't  Only my Rendo address.

I have recently changed my Rendo email address.  That was about a week ago.  Today I began receiving spam email addressed to that Rendo address.  During the past week (since I set up the new email address), I have received at that Rendo address ONLY emails that were sent by Renderosity.  NOT from any Rendo members.  I have SENT NO emails FROM that address to ANYONE.

The way I see it, either (1) someone is able to get into the Rendo database to see the member profiles, or (2) someone has a program sitting either just inside or just outside the Renderosity gateway / firewall that is watching all Rendo packets that are heading for the Internet.  Is there any third possibility???  If so, I'd be interested to hear it.

Greetings natoli,

But my question was addressed to Marque.

Tom

Hi bitplayer ,

On Page 3 ...post 11...I've said this very same thing.

If you are on a company secured network and/ or VPN (Virtual Private Network)...chances are you will get no SPAM.

It's sounds to me like your company's VPN does not allow outside E-mail from the WWW to penetrate it's VPN firewall, but rather only from within it's VPN.

So it's no wonder only the WWW E-Mail interactions would be subject to SPAM.

That makes perfect sense.

8 )

Thanks

Tom

Okay...I'm prepared to try a test.

I recently acquired a new client to build a website.

The domain has been resolved but there are NO E-mail addresses assigned to it yet (Except the main admin account which has never EVER been used to send or receive E-Mail.

So..essentially..it's a clean slate.

Brand new domain with no e-mail either to or from it has been sent or received...in fact...I don't even have it set up in my E-Mail Client yet  (Nor does my client)

He has given his blessing that I can create dummy accounts in the interest of testing this (He's a good friend and a good guy)

So...what I'm prepared to do on this recently reformatted machine, in which no e-Mail has been set up on it yet, is to create a unique E-Mail account on it using this brand new domain.

This will only be used for receiving Rosoty E-Mail (But not replying)

I'll detach it from my LAN so there will be no way of it acquiring e-mail addresses or any other information from my other machines

This new box has a brand new Hard Drive, no E-mail accounts on it yet,nor does it have an address book. (Basically it's Windows XP, with Office 2003 installed on it..and nothing more)

I'll change my rosity account notification e-mail to the new "receive" e-mail address...and use it for nothing but testing this.(In other words...I'll not use it to send or receive e-mail to friends ,family,etc.)

I'll change my Rosity notifications to "None"...then one at a time..enable notifications for various parts of the site. (Forums, Newsletter,etc.)

When(and if )I start to get Spam on this account...I'll report at which point I start to get it.( if at all)

E-mail send/receive will be set to be checked every 1 minute.

This should show if it's a catch-all domain problem (in which I'll be sure is disabled for now),or if it's E-Bot Specific...or..if I get any SPAM at all.

The only way to conduct a test of this sort is to start with a clean slate.

New Box

New Hard Drive

New Domain

New E-mail address.

Otherwise...other elements could be considered a compromise.

Is it agreed that this test would rule out possibilities..and help narrow down why this is happening?

If not...I'll not bother doing it ,because it'll take a lot of my time setting it up and testing it.

This will also reduce the same questions being asked over and over.

Results will be presented in an unbiased way.

As I said...if it is "proved' that Rosity is "Intentionally" harvesting, and selling their E-Mail database...I'll be the first to disassociate myself with this site.

So if I were to do the above outlined test...would that be a satisfactory test to settle this once and for all?

Believe me...although my frustration of re-answering the same questions over and over surfaces from time to time...I'm as interested as the next guy in solving this.

Tom

Go for it, Tom.

Nice one Tom! I lok forward to the results :)

G'day Tom!!

if you let me know when you have started this test i will add you and one of your images to me faves so that you get 2 e-bots about it. if that will help any.

Just an FYI that bitplayer is also doing a test very similiar to the one Tom has outlined above. We spoke on the phone today and he is in a position to do what Tom is doing and I will be anxious to see the results of both of these tests and to see if the results are the same.

Quote - As I said...if it is "proved' that Rosity is "Intentionally" harvesting, and selling their E-Mail database...I'll be the first to disassociate myself with this site.

I don't see anyone accusing Renderosity of  ""Intentionally" harvesting, and selling their E-Mail database"

However something has changed with the introduction of the PHP site changes that is now causing spam email to be somehow sent to some email addresses associated with this site: email addresses that until used here never received spam, including brand new addresses set up for use on this site.

There is a leak of some kind where the email ebot/notification/newsletter/etc sending features are concerned.  Prior to the PHP changes this wasn't an issue.

Correct I have never nor will I say any staff member is selling anyones details
For me this all started the day the server was upgraded

And by they way I appreciated the heads up we all recieved but putting it on the front page alerted these guys to the fact that the server was been fixed.  Next time a site wide email would be better.

Somewhere somehow they havested all email address, I would be intersted to know if any new people in the last week or so who only use one address for renderosity have been spammed or Phished as for me there is no spam its all phishing emails.  And they are worse than spam.

Last week I had the fake FBI contact us or else, this weeks its the Mother Mary christian she is dying rubbish and the Nigeran Goverment scams, these guys think their smart, but if you have half a brain you will see all the grammatical mistakes they make plus the historical information is not correct, lol.

For me and others that only use one address for Renderosity all the spam and phising emails started the day after the server was upgraded, before that I had the address one month and clean.

And another intersting bit of info, I had another email address for rendersosity that was clean too until the server was upgraded for that one I recieve SPAM and the one I have now recieves Phishing Emails.  So it cannot be a coicedence it all happened the same day.

To Arcadia:

***"I don't see anyone accusing Renderosity of *** ""Intentionally" harvesting, and selling their E-Mail database"

On page 8

Post 14 by Marque

"so it's definately someone here who is selling emails or, which is worse, just doing it to be a jerk."

I'll dig further if You'd Like, because there are several throughout this and many other threads.

Tom

Page 2 post 22 by tcombs

"The reason I am concerned about my credit card number is because I think someone (maybe a new employee)  at render is selling email address lists."

Another one by tcombs on page 7 ...post 21

"I still think someone at render is selling these emails, or making money on the side by sending spam, themselves."

BTW...Marque never replied

This was just a brief scan of THIS thread..

Tom

I seriously cannot believe people do not know that credit cards are never kept on this server.

I have shopped here and other places online for 10 plus years online never have I been defrauded. You are more likely to be defrauded if you answer a fake Phishing email from your bank than at any online store. 

Only once have I heard it happen and this was in Australia with an online florist, and all credit cards info was stolent but this site had woeful security which they are now rectifiying.

Plus if you are smart you will have  alimit of 100 dollars and use a debit credit card like I do, they can try and take your money but are you going to cry over 100 dollars I dont think so, if you shop online you have to be smart, ring you credit company and put a limit on the credit card you use.

Enough of the pointing of fingers its not helping anyone and it happens everyday online.
Where do you think spammers get your email address anyway, they buy them like we buy milk for our coffee its a fact of like, sign up to any online newsletter at all the biggest pc help places and see if you do not get spam instantly with a clean email address.

Use a web based email for places online, my home address has been the same for 12 years never have I recieved spam.

I've posted something in the community board about this subject. Didn't know it was being hashed out here. My short version is like a lot of people just recently, I've been fighting spam that just keeps getting worse. I'm getting tired of it. My email provider recommended using temp email addresses that I could create and easily delete, not to mention I could color code it based on which address was tied to which temp I made up. I tried that for Rosity. As well as the 4 other poser sites I visit and buy from. Within 24 hours I got about 10 spam messages on the color coded email address used only for Rosity. I've not received any spam on the other addresses used at the other Poser sites. I established a gmail account and I have maintained it for over 2 months. Friends know it. Not 1 piece of spam fouled my inbox or spam folder. I changed the email at Rosity to the gmail account on the 18th of Sept midnight according to the email I got from Rosity saying they've received the change. On the 19th of Sept 6 hours later I received 20 pieces of spam mail. How, when I've maintained a clean email account for well over 2 months with people using it and one a single piece of spam. Within less than  24 hours after changing it here, I start getting spam. Not once but twice I've changed my email and same thing happens.  If that doesn't show that there is something amiss and I hope it gets looked into, I don't know what else to do. Just sounds like there is a loop hole in sites programing perhaps that is letting something in or skim or worse yet, Rosity is selling the addresses. 

I just want to have my inbox to myself again. I'm tired of having to sift through 30+ emails a day where 80% of them is nothing but spam. That isn't even including what the spam folder has caught. 

Is there a place on the boards where Rosity broadcasts their coupons? If it comes down to it, I'm gonna change my email to some off ball crap and let it rip. I mean don't we get a Rosity email account anyway? I'll just mine to that address if we do. If I delete my email at Rosity then I'll miss the coupons. I spend quite a bit of money here. Maybe I'll just quit spending money here...

reading the last two pages here, I'm sorry to see this is still a problem, 2 months later. is it correct to assume that those receiving spam at a new e-mail account have posted their new e-mail address in one of these forums in machine-readable form? or are they receiving spam at a new e-mail account for which the new e-mail address has not been posted in any way in any forum message, sigfile, or any other public manner?

No, I've only updated my email address via my profile page. I didn't post it anywhere else. Hopefully Hawk will find something out during his experiment.

we can't discuss their security measures here, but it appears they need to hire a white hat to tell 'em if said profile data security measures are breachable from outside. asking their own employees to "hack in" is not gonna fix it, since they already know what these security measures are. I daresay they are altering their security measures every time an employee with knowledge of their security measures quits (or is dismissed). this would go beyond the usual non-disclosure and wiping passwords/ accounts et al. the problem is that complaints about leakage of off-site e-mail addresses is unpleasant, but tolerable. if that's the only security problem, they're fortunate.

Between Outlook 2007's spam filter, plus another company's spam filter that I use -- around 98% of spam messages go straight into the junk folder.  I check that folder occasionally, just to be sure that nothing that I actually wanted was filtered out.

Spam is a gigantic problem across the internet.  The only e-mail accounts where I've never seen spam were e-mail accounts with addresses which I rarely, if ever, actually used for anything.

well i have a curious update for ya,

i have been getting one spam at a time recently, used to always be in twos, and they have changed to things like "hello" as opposed to "lottery winner" now, now i am getting them every time i get an advert/newsletter (whatever) from Daz.

anyway i am not accusing Daz of anything here, with this post, i am just letting you know that my spam pattern has changed recently, and wondering if anyone else has noticed anything similar.

Yes the Phising style has changed in this last week, I have been reporting them daily as my inbox fills up over night.  Also they are included the sick women and the threatening Fake FBI emails again.

Angela

yeah, i think the new titles are getting through the spam blockers 'cause they could easily be from someone you know, easy to open one that just says "hello" after your used to "lottery" and such, i've been over to Daz today and unsubscribed to their newsletter now so i'll see what happens now.