Anyone else had the library window start up blank? i changed the layout a bit, and next time poser started the library window was there but blank.
i had to set all to factory defaults and restart. i tried installing on my vista machine and the library window is blank from the start.
any thoughts?

 Einzy.

It need adobe Flash player 10 I think. I had the same thing with my XP64 machine. After I installed the P8 content I had a link bubble pop up with the adobe update link. I then Had to connect my PC to the net to get it. Was not happy with that.

But the library worked after all that.

There's an installer for the Flash10 ActiveX control in the download, it's in the same directory as the Adobe Reader installer (Windows only, don't know about the Mac equivalent if any).

Try this thread, they may have the answer to the disappearing Library problem.   Apparently there will be a fix of some sort.   Go here for more info:

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2778530

~skylab    : )

thanx, thats Interesting, will look into it untill fix appears hopefully :)

Einzy

Someone has posted a response from tech support in this thread....complicated, but worth trying:

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2778338&page=12

~skylab   : )

I too am having this problem. I have no library palette. Trying very hard not to get frustrated. Tech support has been trying to help me with it too.

I know, it's a little frustrating when you want to try out the new stuff.   What I'm doing, since I had already previously set up external runtimes, and still have Poser Pro on my drive....decided to try the method I saw in one of the other threads, an animation at this link that shows how to get one of the python scripts to recognize all the runtimes on your drive....go here and watch if this stuff sounds a bit technical to you:
http://shaderworks.rois-sorciers.com/tutorials/P8_firststart/
As you can see, part of what is being done in this animated demonstration is they are going up to scripts, partners, ShaderWorks, and then selecting import_runtimes...then it will ask something about "killing the scene"....which basically means it's going to force the program to shut down in order to make the changes.   Once Poser 8 can "recognize" all the external runtimes, then, if you have an older version of Poser still on your system, you can go set up your basic figure, props, whatever, just load it in any sort of way, save it as a scene, and then go to Poser 8 and open the scene and work with your content.   If you try to open a scene without running the python script, Poser 8 will ask to search for every single texture...and that gets old real quick....haha.   I know this is a round about way to get content into the program, but at least you can use it until a reasonable fix is established.    I tried the UI - Flex - html and swf thing....and it got me the same thing....a blank Library.   I see no way to get McAfee to recognize .swf or html specifically for permissions.   I remember seeing some sort of warning about blocking something during installation....it came and went and that was when it happened probably.   I guess turning off security altogether and reinstalling perhaps might work.    I've already tried five times, so I'm going to wait this out and just enjoy playing with what will work.   Hope this helps...

~skylab   : )

 My first post
I had the same problem .I had a corrupted flash player .
Try running "uninstall_flash_player.exe" available on
the adobe site, then reinstall "install_flash_player.exe"
Worked for me

Thanks jimros... will try figuring out the uninstall flash thing.   I updated flash this evening thinking it might help, but I didn't know there was a process of uninstalling.   I'll try it and see....would be wonderful if it solved the problem.   Thanks for posting....you must be like me, mostly read forums for info and not much of a talker.....haha.    I jumped into this particular topic because I saw others were having the same problem.

~skylab   : )

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I know, it's a little frustrating when you want to try out the new stuff.   What I'm doing, since I had already previously set up external runtimes, and still have Poser Pro on my drive....decided to try the method I saw in one of the other threads, an animation at this link that shows how to get one of the python scripts to recognize all the runtimes on your drive....go here and watch if this stuff sounds a bit technical to you:
http://shaderworks.rois-sorciers.com/tutorials/P8_firststart/
As you can see, part of what is being done in this animated demonstration is they are going up to scripts, partners, ShaderWorks, and then selecting import_runtimes...then it will ask something about "killing the scene"....which basically means it's going to force the program to shut down in order to make the changes.   Once Poser 8 can "recognize" all the external runtimes, then, if you have an older version of Poser still on your system, you can go set up your basic figure, props, whatever, just load it in any sort of way, save it as a scene, and then go to Poser 8 and open the scene and work with your content.   If you try to open a scene without running the python script, Poser 8 will ask to search for every single texture...and that gets old real quick....haha.   I know this is a round about way to get content into the program, but at least you can use it until a reasonable fix is established.    I tried the UI - Flex - html and swf thing....and it got me the same thing....a blank Library.   I see no way to get McAfee to recognize .swf or html specifically for permissions.   I remember seeing some sort of warning about blocking something during installation....it came and went and that was when it happened probably.   I guess turning off security altogether and reinstalling perhaps might work.    I've already tried five times, so I'm going to wait this out and just enjoy playing with what will work.   Hope this helps...

~skylab   : )

Thank you for your kind post. I tried what you described, which you described well, and now I can import pz3 files without Poser 8 asking for the origin of every blasted thing in the pz3 file.

Great...glad it helped.   At least now you get to try out the lighting and other new stuff, and not spend the rest of your life confirming texture locations....haha.

~skylab     : )

Noticed in thread below they are now saying that though it's not technically an internet connection issue, it is however a firewall-local issue, plus the interaction with flash.....I had suspected the firewall settings from the beginning, but some of the technical details are over my head for now.   Go here for some of the technical comments:

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2778338&page=12#message_3495075

~skylab   : )

Does the library work when you run it in a browser directly? Just open /Poser 8/Runtime/ui/Flex/LSMGUI/bin-release/LSMGUI.html to try that.

I was asked about a Firewall last night by Nerd. No, I do not have Windows XP's firewall turned on. I use Norton so I checked that, and I don't have a firewall on that either. When I open LSGUI.html in a browser it is blank. A tech from Smith Micro thru email has asked me if I use Firefox. And YES, I do. I have not used IE for more than an year and a half. It was version 6 at the time of Poser 8 installation. I have gone and updated it to version 8 but I still prefer not to use it.

Another thread was mention the block scripts plugin for Firefox. I have just turned mine off now.

sigh Didn't fix my problem.

QUOTE:  Does the library work when you run it in a browser directly? Just open /Poser 8/Runtime/ui/Flex/LSMGUI/bin-release/LSMGUI.html to try that.

RESPONSE:    For me it was the same, pulling up LSMGUI.html gives a blank, metallic gray background, the same that appears in Poser 8 where the Library is supposed to be.   There are no buttons or controls in the Poser 8 Library blank field, so you can't populate the folder by adding a runtime...has to be done through a python script "back door" approach.    I'm running WinXP with McAfee firewall, IE8, Firefox, all up-to-date.   I saw a portion of the Library briefly when it was first installed on attempt #1....but it disappeared and haven't seen it since....and after 5 attempts, and the fact that it tends to hold on to some of the previous configuration information even though I choose to delete it during re-install, seems I was running out of options.   Will use work around until solution is found.    It seems this interface was designed with Windows 7 in mind.   I won't be upgrading to Win7 so I sure hope this is fixable....otherwise, looks like I'll be out of the Poser loop in the future...would be a real disappointment.

~skylab

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QUOTE:  Does the library work when you run it in a browser directly? Just open /Poser 8/Runtime/ui/Flex/LSMGUI/bin-release/LSMGUI.html to try that.

RESPONSE:    For me it was the same, pulling up LSMGUI.html gives a blank, metallic gray background, the same that appears in Poser 8 where the Library is supposed to be.   There are no buttons or controls in the Poser 8 Library blank field, so you can't populate the folder by adding a runtime...has to be done through a python script "back door" approach.    I'm running WinXP with McAfee firewall, IE8, Firefox, all up-to-date.   I saw a portion of the Library briefly when it was first installed on attempt #1....but it disappeared and haven't seen it since....and after 5 attempts, and the fact that it tends to hold on to some of the previous configuration information even though I choose to delete it during re-install, seems I was running out of options.   Will use work around until solution is found.    It seems this interface was designed with Windows 7 in mind.   I won't be upgrading to Win7 so I sure hope this is fixable....otherwise, looks like I'll be out of the Poser loop in the future...would be a real disappointment.

~skylab

Similar situation for me. I opened LSMGUI in Firefox and found that the No Script plugin was blocking it and so I right clicked and select it to allow and suddenly Firefox displayed the interface. However, if I open LSMGUI in IE8, it is still a blank greyish silver page.

Do you have scripts disabled in IE?

If I do, I have no clue! How would I find out? I use Firefox exclusively. Have done so for more than a year. At the time that I installed Poser8, I find that my IE was version 6. I have since upgraded it (grudgingly) to IE 8.

I don't really know. I don't actually understand any of this stuff really. I'd just be Googling like anybody else to find out how.

There are a gazillion mysterious settings and relationships in Windows and IE nowadays. I don't really get why IE, when used as a custom component in an app like this, continues to act like it is the actual Internet Explorer Browser. It is not being used as an Internet browser here. It is just a component of Poser, just a host of a SWF file and some Javascript and it should just do what it is being told to do by the application.

SM tells me this is Webkit. Any Webkit experts lurking around here? 

I have been back and forth with a tech at SM for the last day and a half about this issue. I checked the Posertrusted.cfg file in my Flash folder and it has the correct path to my installation. I opened LSMGUI.html in Firefox and found that my BlockScript plugin was blocking it so I right clicked and selected Allow and the library displayed in Firefox. The last message I got from the tech was to go into Firefox and make LSMGUI my homepage and use that temporarily. But since Firefox is my main browser, I'm not going to make that my homepage by any means. However, I can still open it in a separate tab under Firefox and I may do that. But I informed the tech that it is my belief that the problem still lies with IE8 and not Firefox. LSMGUI still displays in IE8 as a blank page.

Further, I will state this: as nifty as the new library seemed at the time of creation, I believe sincerely that upon install the user should have been give the choice of installing the Classic Poser Interface or the New Interface.  I would have chosen the Classic Interface.

Okay, news flash here. I went to the tab in Firefox that is now displaying my Poser 8 Library and I clicked the Lights. I went to Poser 8 Content and it states that the content is empty!!!!!!

Well, I've been Googling....trying to understand the issue better.   It seems that processes like this open a security risk even though it's local and not internet, in the event a trojan or virus is released.   Considering how some of the 3D content sites have had security issues over the past year, hackers could indeed exploit relaxation in browser security.   Windows 7 going toward flash will probably be, in the end, jumping from the frying pan into the fire....and carrying other software applications into the danger zone as well as they press onward toward compatibility.   It's worth giving much thought.   

I've been reading about several Poser content database products.   All carry a certain level of security risk, and some say so up front.   Having emphasized that, here's the list of products I've found.   It's worth looking at their documentation just for an understanding of how the programs do what they do....some are free, some have trial versions, some have PDF manual downloads which are very informative.    I collected this list for myself, but am sharing it here, in case any are interested.             ~skylab

PX - Poser eXplorer - uses IE for displaying and launching Poser content:
http://market.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?ViewProduct=62059&vendor=Dimension3D
PDF manual near bottom in Downloads, above Related products

PzDB1.1  - uses Microsoft access for database - has free trial
http://market.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?ViewProduct=72733&keyword=PzDB   full
http://www.rocketshiptechnologies.com/software/pzdb/Free1.asp  - 30 day trial and info
http://www.rocketshiptechnologies.com/software/pzdb/PzDBFAQ.asp - PDF user manual bottom  of page

XL - eXtended Library for Poser 8, uses Poser python:
http://www.contentparadise.com/productDetails.aspx?id=11143

PBooost II - not sure if this has been updated for Poser 8:
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?ViewProduct=44369&keyword=PBooost+

Advanced Library for Poser:
http://neocron.lunarpages.com/library/

P3dO with Poser plug-in:    (not sure if this launches content)
http://www.senosoft.com/softp3doDownload.php

I just grabbed a screenshot which shows the Library running under Firefox and that Poser 8 Content is empty.

I was thinking the very same thing, that perhaps a screen shot of what we are seeing (or rather not seeing) inside Poser 8, and also apparently what you've been seeing in Firefox also, might help.   Was going to create one this weekend, but you're already taking care of it.   Hang in there....

~skylab     : )

Looking at this reminds me of what I briefly saw when I first installed Poser 8.   I remember seeing "empty".   So....it was probably non-functioning from the beginning.    Thanks for uploading this.

I'll be offline now for awhile, but will check back again later this evening in a couple of hours to see if there is any news.

~skylab     : )

~skylab

Maybe try this in IE8:

Tools > Advanced.

Under the Security subheading, check "Allow active content to run in files on My Computer."

Note: The security risk here is not inherent. Virtually every web developer will have that option checked. It only becomes a problem if you already have a virus.

Shut down Internet Explorer and then see what happens. Does that help?

Sorry to hear it didn't work. It was an idea.

Tried that too, thanks Believable3D. But I have the same result. No change except this afternoon IE finally displayed the Library in the web browser, and now it does not. The Library will display under Firefox browser (it's in another tab right now), but it still says there is no content in Poser 8.

I have sent a screenshot of my Firefox window to Tech support at SM. I really, really want this issue solved. However, I truly wish that they had allowed at install the selection of the Classic Poser Interface, or this new one. If there had been a choice, I would have chosen the Classic Interface, and not one that relies on IE, a program I don't like and have tried not to use for over a year.

~skylab

 Skylab3D.. Cute animation ^_^ I'm not sure I could have made anything remotely happy looking if I were in your shoes!

Anyway.. Do you by any chance use Norton as well? Norton is known for messing up a LOT of installations.

Latexluv - did you turn off Norton during installation of Poser and Flash.. (and IE8 - which I wouldn't touch with a bargepole myself if I didn't have to)  If not, try diabling it and reinstall everything.

LL, is the Poser 8 Content library branch empty in every category?

The screen shot was very informative, because I saw figures and materials from your other libraries.

So it is a clue that only the newly installed stuff is not being found.

It is also a clue if NONE of it is found.

And if you type "Andy" into the search, do you find Andy the mannequin?

Thanks TrekkieGrrrl. . .was trying to keep on the bright side of things, I'm sure there must be a solution somehow.   I don't use Norton, but I do have McAfee, and it can be equally relentless in its pursuit of anything it suspects as intrusion of any sort.    It gives no option to disable during an installation that I can see.    And I agree with you, I don't "use" Internet Explorer 8 either except when absolutely necessary....my main browser is Firefox and for that reason I was hoping to not have to relax settings too much on Firefox.

I tried the little animation just to see what it would do.  The sunglasses on Andy were imported from another runtime as an object and darkened in Materials.   I'm able to open Poser Pro scenes... so for now that's the only way I can set up a complicated scene....which is better than nothing....or Andy would really be hanging his head...haha.

bagginsbill, I'm not sure if LL ever saw Andy on the opening screen.   He did appear, and still appears on mine, but that's all I've got.   As for LL's screen shot showing other libraries....after trying the method I posted earlier (quoted below), LL was able then to open scenes from Poser Pro and work with content....as I am also able to do, because the ShaderWorks script caused Poser 8 to "recognize" our external runtimes.   So....would be hard to tell if P8 is recognizing LL's other content on its own, or because of the help from ShaderWorks (see below).   I'm sure LL will be on later and could answer that.

QUOTE FROM MY EARLIER POST:   . . .since I had already previously set up external runtimes, and still have Poser Pro on my drive....decided to try the method I saw in one of the other threads, an animation at this link that shows how to get one of the python scripts to recognize all the runtimes on your drive....go here and watch if this stuff sounds a bit technical to you:
http://shaderworks.rois-sorciers.com/tutorials/P8_firststart/
As you can see, part of what is being done in this animated demonstration is they are going up to scripts, partners, ShaderWorks, and then selecting import_runtimes...then it will ask something about "killing the scene"....which basically means it's going to force the program to shut down in order to make the changes.   Once Poser 8 can "recognize" all the external runtimes, then, if you have an older version of Poser still on your system, you can go set up your basic figure, props, whatever, just load it in any sort of way, save it as a scene, and then go to Poser 8 and open the scene and work with your content.   If you try to open a scene without running the python script, Poser 8 will ask to search for every single texture...and that gets old real quick....haha.   I know this is a round about way to get content into the program, but at least you can use it until a reasonable fix is established. ... END QUOTE

~skylab  

You should be able to load content into Poser from the library displayed in Firefox.

If the Poser 8 library is shown empty, it probably is empty. Try using the "add library" from inside firefox and then choose the Poser 8 library manually and see if that fixes it.

My point was not about Andy as the content in the default scene.

My suspicion is that LL does not have the Poser 8 content installed/configured/pointing to correctly, period. Has nothing to do with the GUI. In other words, I'm wondering if the GUI is telling the truth - that isn't her Poser 8  Content runtime.

Just because Andy shows in the opening scene, means nothing. Suppose the script you ran to add external runtimes is broken, and added the default runtime using the wrong path. See what I mean? You may be pointing at the wrong folder. If you hover over it, it will show you the full path. Is that the right path?

Poser 8 has options to install the main runtime lots of different ways. Does the external runtime utility script that copied runtimes from older Poser installations respect and understand the one you used for Poser 8? I suspect it may not. That would explain why your external runtimes are fine, but your main runtime is not.

That's why I asked if Search finds the content? Search for Ryan. Search for Alyson. Search for Andy. If it finds those, but they don't show up in the Library tree, then you screwed up the main runtime pointer by using that utility.

Can't answer for LL, will have to wait until they come back on to respond.   For myself, it was "screwed up" before the ShaderWorks fix was applied (see previous posts plus another thread on the subject).   The ShaderWorks script is part of Poser 8, pull down under scripts and you will see it.   After multiple installations, it was an attempt to work around the problem so that the program could at least be functional.  Otherwise, would have had to return the program for a refund.  Thanks again for trying to help.   Good day to you.

~skylab

Quote - LL, is the Poser 8 Content library branch empty in every category?

The screen shot was very informative, because I saw figures and materials from your other libraries.

So it is a clue that only the newly installed stuff is not being found.

It is also a clue if NONE of it is found.

And if you type "Andy" into the search, do you find Andy the mannequin?

Yes, every catagory for Poser 8 is empty. I did not think to use the search function. I can try that. I reinstalled the content to Poser 8, even though it all is there. I can browse the content using Windows Explorer. I can load things from the library using a python script from D3D called Quick Browse (even though some materials failed to load). I had Andy upon first start up, but I loaded my basic studio from Poser Pro as a pz3 file and then set that as my Preferred State.  Yes, I have Norton, not McAfee on this laptop. And, no, I didn't know it might interfer with and installation so I didn't turn it off. On principle, I do not use IE. Long, long time ago I started out on the net as a Netscape user. I didn't like having IE crammed down my throat with each new operating system. (I really preferred Windows 98). And it you really want to get to the meat of it, I am an Atarian in a (spit) Microsoft world. I still prefer Atari's TOS to Microsoft's Windows. But that's neither here nor there on this discussion about the empty library. I'm going to do some screen shots now, because that might more helpful than verbage.

Okay, displaying the Library Palette inside of Firefox and then selecting the Add Library Icon produced a Dialogue box where I navigated to my Poser 8 Runtime and manually added it. The Poser8 Content folder at the top of my screen says (when my curser is hovering over it) that its coming from my Documents folder, which is not where I installed my runtime and I don't know why it thought my content was there. No way that I can see to delete that entry either. So it would have to be ignored. However, this is only displaying under Firefox. The Library Palette within Poser 8 is still blank.

Well darned if it didn't work! Now that Poser 8 content shows while using LSMGUI under Firefox, I decided to resize my browser window, open up Poser 8, browsed to the new Poser 8 dog, highlighted, and dragged over to the Studio. And to my surprise, I have the hound now in my Studio window!

And by the way, I haven't heard from Tech Support since yesterday.

Hi LL, glad you made it back on, and glad you are making progress.  Am leaving this up to you now...I've only about a year of experience using Poser and can only go so far with the technical issues.  Will continue to watch the thread in case there are further solutions.   Hang in there!

~skylab    : )

Quote - The Poser8 Content folder at the top of my screen says (when my curser is hovering over it) that its coming from my Documents folder, which is not where I installed my runtime

Right, that is what I was getting at. Somehow you corrupted the main runtime entry, so that Poser does not actually tell the truth about where the main runtime is located. So of course the GUI couldn't show you anything from your main runtime, because it was told the wrong path, and so nothing exists in it.

I believe the script you ran to add external runtimes is, itself, buggy, which led to you gaining your externals and losing your main.

You should hand edit the libraryprefs.xml file and restore the first entry to have the correct path to your main runtime. Otherwise, more things will be broken than the library GUI.