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So... you would label a folder "Poser Content/People" and another folder "Poser Content/Animals" and another folder "Poser Content/Clothing"? I just want to be sure I understand, because I want to get this right. There are a lot of items on "Renderosity" that I'd like to get setup in Poser."

that is the way I would do it, rather than merging all your runtimes into one big one. it makes it very much easier to find the poses that go with your hair etc if each thing is in a separate folder.

So I wouldn't do what someone above suggested and merge each folder into your poser content.

But make sure you don't have a folder called Runtime inside a folder called Runtime.  Each runtime should have its own folder around it. Like I showed you in my screen cap.  that works best.

Love esther

Why would I suggest a third party image utility?  For the same reason I would suggest a third party zip utility like 7-Zip, they just work better and have more options then what is built in to Windows.  Going a little off topic but I have felt for a long time that MicroSoft should concentrate on the core elements of the OS.  Leave the add-ons like video plays, image programs and all the rest to other companies that have more experience in those areas.

Quote - Why would I suggest a third party image utility?  For the same reason I would suggest a third party zip utility like 7-Zip, they just work better and have more options then what is built in to Windows.  Going a little off topic but I have felt for a long time that MicroSoft should concentrate on the core elements of the OS.  Leave the add-ons like video plays, image programs and all the rest to other companies that have more experience in those areas.

I think it's fine to suggest a third party image utility when you're confident that your suggestion won't overwhelm someone who is clearly new with computers.  I only say that Paint will work just as well for the purpose of making screen captures so that the OP can complete this step without having to add the additional steps of downloading and installing another program.  When you're still learning how to do basic things in Windows, you may not need all the bells and whistles of a third party utility right away.  Later, definitely, yes. Now, probably not.  Not until the OP has Vicki working and is making renders.

Quote - " So I wouldn't do what someone above suggested and merge each folder into your poser content.

I was not suggesting that the OP merge all of her content into one folder. I was suggesting that the OP needs to merge the purchase runtime with the runtime within whatever folder is chosen to contain the content. If these two are not merged in Windows, then the files will not be copied or moved and the product won't work. I did suggest several times that the Poser Content folder (or whatever the OP chose to call it) contain several subfolders so that content types could be organized.

I prefer to have all of my runtimes within one main directory so that my root directory is not cluttered with 15 separate runtimes. I don't see how this is a bad thing. :)

oh I see. yep - It hought you meant put it all into your main poser folder.  sorry.

I suggest putting folder on any drive called poserall, then putting a folder called Vickie4, furniture, Vickie4jeanz etc into it and then a runtime goes into each.

Like the screen shot I supplied earlier.

Love esther

Quote - > Quote - Okay... I just created a "Poser Content" folder in MY Doctuments and also created a Runtime folder within it. Then I placed the "Sofia" contents inside the Runtime folder. Clicked on the Poser Content folder inside Poser and the folder had this (0) next to it. Let me know what I did wrong, please.

I think this is the problem and it's a very common problem.

When you unzip "Sofia", there should be a folder called "runtime" within those unzipped files.

Drag that runtime folder into your Poser Content folder, not into the runtime folder. You do not want a runtime inside a runtime. Instead, you want the new Sofia runtime folder to merge with the Poser Content runtime folder.  When you drag the runtime into the Poser Content folder and there already is a runtime in there, a dialogue box will appear and it will ask, Do you still want to merge this folder? Click "yes".

If you already have a runtime in your Poser Content folder and you are moving the Sofia runtime into it and you do NOT get this dialogue box, then you are putting the Sofia runtime into the wrong place.

I've done what you have suggested and the Poser Content folder appears in Poser once I click on it from the menu, but it reads "empty". There was a time when I couldn't do that, but now that I can download the Poser Content folder I don't understand why the folder reads "empty" after doing what you have suggested.

well what folder is inside the poser content folder.  What folders are inside the folder within the poser content folder?

If you go onto your computer and ascertain that the folder is not empty, and poser has loaded it and it seems empty there are probably only 2 possibilities.

1 is that you need to hit the refresh button to the right of the library.

The second possibility is that you are looking at some empyt folder in the runtime that isn't meant to have anything in it. eg you may have opened a pose folder when the runtime only contains a figure.

Love esther

Quote - well what folder is inside the poser content folder.  What folders are inside the folder within the poser content folder?

I've tried placing the "Sofia" folder inside the Poser Content folder alone and the reading I get in Poser is that there is not Runtime folder.

Then you need to open the sofia folder and check to see if there is a runtime folder within.  That Sofia folder should be within a runtime folder, under 2 levels of subfolders, a Libraries folder and a Pose folder.  Sofia folder will not show up on its own.

Quote - Then you need to open the sofia folder and check to see if there is a runtime folder within.  That Sofia folder should be within a runtime folder, under 2 levels of subfolders, a Libraries folder and a Pose folder.  Sofia folder will not show up on its own.

Yes there is a Runtime folder within the Sofia folder, but what should be in the Libraries folder and what should be in the Poser folder so that the Sofia foder will work? Do I create a new folder and label it "Libraries" or take an exisiting "Libraries" foler and use it? The same question for the "Poser" folder.

Sofia has her own runtime folder so the libraries folder should already exist.  Link that Sofia folder to Poser.  You have already been instructed how to do that.  Do you understand that procedure. or do we have to reiterate the steps again?  There is an image posted.  If you managed to link the Sofia folder to Poser, then you need to open the proper Library category for this character.  That would be the Pose section which can be opened by clicking on the gray running man icon at the top of the library.  The Sofia folder should show subfolders which will contain your content.

Quote - Sofia has her own runtime folder so the libraries folder should already exist.  Link that Sofia folder to Poser.  You have already been instructed how to do that.  Do you understand that procedure. or do we have to reiterate the steps again?  There is an image posted.  If you managed to link the Sofia folder to Poser, then you need to open the proper Library category for this character.  That would be the Pose section which can be opened by clicking on the gray running man icon at the top of the library.  The Sofia folder should show subfolders which will contain your content.

I've tried severa times with creating a "Poser Content" folder and putting the Sofia folder inside it. When I click on the gray running man icon to download the Poser Content folder, it shows and I click on it. The Poser Content folder shows up in Poser but as an empty folder even with the Sofia folder inside it.

You are trying to nest the runtimes which will lead to confusions.  Understand, each linked folder must contain only one runtime folder.  If your Poser content already contains a runtime folder then the Sofia folder cannot be placed into it.  You can take the Sofia runtime and merge it with the Poser Content runtime, but you cannot do what you described.

Open your Sofia folder and verify that it has a runtime folder.  Then open that runtime folder.  Please describe what is in that folder. 

Quote - You are trying to nest the runtimes which will lead to confusions.  Understand, each linked folder must contain only one runtime folder.  If your Poser content already contains a runtime folder then the Sofia folder cannot be placed into it.  You can take the Sofia runtime and merge it with the Poser Content runtime, but you cannot do what you described.

Open your Sofia folder and verify that it has a runtime folder.  Then open that runtime folder.  Please describe what is in that folder. 

I opened the Sofia folder. What appears inside that is, a data folder, Documentation folder, People folder, and Runtime folder (in that order from top of page leading down. I clicked the Runtime folder to open it and there is a libraries folder and a textures folder. I clicked the libraries folder and ten folders appear. From the top of page leading down, the folders are, camera, character, face, hair, hand, light, materials, Pose, props, and scene. I clicked each of these folders and they all are empty. Could this be the problem???

If they are all empty then there is no content unzipped into that runtime.  This is a problem.  How did you unzip the compressed file?  Give me step-wise details how you did this.  ATM, you have no content which is a problem.  Also, provide a link to the Sofia character.  I would like to examine the readme from the link.

Quote - If they are all empty then there is no content unzipped into that runtime.  This is a problem.  How did you unzip the compressed file?  Give me step-wise details how you did this.  ATM, you have no content which is a problem.  Also, provide a link to the Sofia character.  I would like to examine the readme from the link.

Someone suggested "7-Zip" and I went online and downloaded it. Plus... how do I "provide a link to the Sofia character"? Do you mean a link to Renderosity and the character's package or a link to what I have? I'm not sure how to do that.

If Sofia is a Rendo product, I'll find it.  To place a link in a post, go to the site, highlight the browser URL, copy, then proceed to your post and paste.  You may get a challenge to the paste, just click allow.

Edit:  I just checked the character package you purchased; it is Sophia with a ph not an f.  It is important you use exact spelling.  The readme with that package has specific instructions for unzipping and installation as well as how to inject the morphs.  You will need V4 Morph++ package from DAZ3D, otherwise you will not see any changes to the model.

Now, how did you unzip the content?

This is why it is fortunate that you have a DAZ Studio user lurking in this forum.  The "data" and "People" folders indicates that this a Studio character preset.  You won't be able to use it to morph V4 in Poser.  If the "Textures" folder does have texture files in it you could apply them manually.

The site and the readme does mention for Poser use also.  Yes, I agree, there are DAZStudio folders also embedded, and the readme provides a listing of Poser files.  Either the content did not d/l completely or there is misinformation about where the content is to be used.

matbe there are two sophia files and he has only downloaded one of them (the daz one)

Love esther

Nope.  The site specifies only one file.

maybe he overwrote his runtime whilst he was fiddling around trying to get it to work.

I would throw it in the bin and unzip sophia again.  also check in the materials folder. perhaps that is where the content is?

Quote - If Sofia is a Rendo product, I'll find it.  To place a link in a post, go to the site, highlight the browser URL, copy, then proceed to your post and paste.  You may get a challenge to the paste, just click allow.

 

Edit:  I just checked the character package you purchased; it is Sophia with a ph not an f.  It is important you use exact spelling.  The readme with that package has specific instructions for unzipping and installation as well as how to inject the morphs.  You will need V4 Morph++ package from DAZ3D, otherwise you will not see any changes to the model.

Now, how did you unzip the content?

The first time, I used "7 zip". After using that, I got some empty folders within what was unzipped. I contacted "Renderousity" support on the phone and the person I spoke with suggested "Winzip". The problem I am having with "Winzip" is that the whole folder isn't a  whole folder. Part of it isn't with the rest of the folder.

Quote - This is why it is fortunate that you have a DAZ Studio user lurking in this forum.  The "data" and "People" folders indicates that this a Studio character preset.  You won't be able to use it to morph V4 in Poser.  If the "Textures" folder does have texture files in it you could apply them manually.

Okay... since you say you are a DAZ Studio user... how do I go about downloading Renderosity purchased items into DAZ 3D 4.0???

You do it the same as you would for Poser.  Like hborre, I did a search at Rendo's story, there are no "Sofia" products, there is a "Sophia" character by adamthwaites.  If it is "Sophia" you have it for V4 and Genesis and both Poser and Studio.  Let me be blunt, the ReadMe file gives very clear instruction on how to install the product, as long as you know how to use a computer.  This seems to be your problem, you just don't know enough about computers to be messing with programs of this complexity.  I am now going to make the most extreme and controversial suggestion ever, one that may even get me banned.  I want you to use the 'Help' function in the Start window.  Then type in "System Restore" in the search area.  Carefully read everything that comes up.  Once you think you understand how to do a restore I want you to restore your computer to its earliest point possible.  Now shut off the computer, get to a bookstore or your local library.  Ask for the best books they have to teach a newbie about computers, both general knowledge and OS (Operating System) specific.  Better still would be to find and take a course, there are probably many free or low cost ones available in your area. 

This has been a really helpful thread.  Thanks to everyone who is taking the time to explain howto do this correctly.

I have a question regarding other Daz files.  Are they installed it the same manner as Victoria and Michael?  For example, I have Freak, the Girl, Victoria 4 Morphs ++, Michael 4 Morphs ++, and the Clown Family pack.  Would I create a seperate folder for each or should the go with Michael and Victoria somehow since they are somewhat realted?

I would keep your girl in the V4 folder since she is a morph of V4, and I would keep your freak in th Michael 4 folder.

Thanks.  What about the morphs ++ for each?  SHould they live with the person they pertain to or a seperate folder?

Do I install all Daz purchased content in a similar manner to M4 and V4?  I mean creating the the folder to direct the installer to.

The morph package should reside in the same folder as your models.  V4 Morph++ should be where your V4 CR2 is located.

Thanks again.  You guys have done an outstanding job explaining stuff in this thread.

Quote - I would keep your girl in the V4 folder since she is a morph of V4, and I would keep your freak in th Michael 4 folder.

Is that true of any characters I buy?  For Example I bought the AH Hunter V4 model.  I assume that she is simply a morph of V4, like The Girl.  So, should I put her and all models based on that character in the V4 folder?  Maybe something like this:

Victoria 4 Folder

-Victoria 4

-Morphs ++

-The Girl

-AH Hunter

-Etc.

But not this:

Victoria 4 Folder

-Victoria 4

      -Morphs ++

      -The Girl

      -AH Hunter

      -Etc.

I would put the Girl 4 along with V4 because she is a morph of V4.  I would not place Morph++ in it's own folder, though.  There are deltas that must ba accessed when injecting morpts.  However, you can place the clothing in separate clothing folder.