Okay, found it. Window > Python Scripts.

This is what I want in an instructions for dummies. :)

BB, see post above. I've never owned Poser 6. I just got into 3D.. For the most part, I have no idea what are new features and what are not.

But what I'm suggesting is that maybe it's helpful to aim at those people who haven't tracked down all these wonderful freebie scripts. If there are clear instructions for the dummies, maybe they will get used.. or more importantly, THIS script will get used (and generate you sales later, I may add). There are zillions of free things available, but I'm not going to sort through them all... I saw from the beginning that you were onto something great here, and so I wanted to use it. That has nothing to do with whether I want to use other free scripts, and I suspect I'm not alone. You're working on something fabulous, and you're bound to attract attention from folks who normally think Python is just a snake. Surely that's a good thing, yes?

And so it is again: "Click Synchronize."

I look for "Synchronize" on the VSS 1 tab. Nope.

I search for synchronize in the Poser Reference Manual, the Poser Pro Reference Manual, the Poser Python Reference Manual... the word doesn't even appear.

I go through the whole Pose room interface menus, and can't find anything that says Synchronize.

I search Renderosity for "synchronize Poser" (not having any better idea for terms) and get overwhelmed. I'm sure the answer is in this thread somewhere - but this is exactly what I'm talking about... documentation that doesn't force one to hunt through this haystack.

So yes, I'm ignorant. I've been doing 3D since August, and have own PP for maybe 2-3 months. I've never done a synchronize, as far as I know... am I the only one?

Thanks, Bill!

I've read over half the Poser Manual, but I guess I was too mentally tired for it to occur to me to even look there on this one... this time I was way off in the other direction, trying to Google the answer and reading articles on how to run Python scripts in Windows. Way off base, obviously...

Point being, what should be obvious isn't always for some of us. :-

Okay, one thing isn't clear to me:

"> Run the python script :Runtime:Python:vss:vssMainButtons.py*"**

I know nothing about Python. My first assumption was that I would run this inside Poser via the Scripts menu - but it's not there.

So then I went into the Runtime and found the file and clicked on it. That doesn't do anything (Windows doesn't know what to do with it.) So I opened it with Poser Pro, but that just tries to make a scene out of it.

So pardon my denseness, but how do I run the Python script? This is exactly what I was talking about when I suggested you need a "for dummies" set of instructions. 'Cause I'm a dummy.

Thanks for the response, Bill... I guess from your comments, your separation of the shader from the VSS page is intentional. People already think VSS is a shader, and you don't want to have the shader on the same page. Fair enough, though I still wonder about that... I tend to think you're bucking something that you're never gonna shake.

I honestly have never run VSS (I'm about to unpack everything at this moment and try to get some test renders), so from hearing all the questions here, I was guessing the included documentation wasn't sufficiently clear from the average Joe. But these instructions don't look too obtuse. Maybe people really aren't reading the documentation at all....

Can we get this whole thing more organized somehow?

It seems to me that the following things are clearly detrimental for those wanting to use the shader:

(1) the scattering of the files across several different pages and sites;

(2) the lack of a simple point-by-point instruction on how to use VSS - and I don't mean, buried somewhere in this thread, but on the same page as the files.

It seems to me that if things were better organized, more people would be using VSS as is, and there'd be more guaranteed sales for the Pro version when it eventually comes out as well.

If this state of things isn't going to change, I would be happy to create a page on my own 3D site to address the organization issue. I don't have to host the files, but I would provide direct links to the various files wherever they are located, so that the user could go to one page and find everything. I would also include a very brief point-by-point set of instructions (noting date and versions of everything) - but I'm not the one to write it, obviously... I might be able to track down the necessary info from this thread, though that would take time.

If this is going to work, I would need to remain updated of new developments (e.g. new versions of the various files, and any corresponding new wrinkles to the instructions). I do subscribe to this thread, but the pertinent info can easily get buried....

Is this a good plan, or is there an alternative plan in place to get things organized?

Looks to me like you thought this was an automated solution. Did you use the prop?

Yeah, yeah, I know... it's hard to speak knowledgeably when you don't know anything. :)

But I'm not afraid to admit that. I've been using Poser for about 2 months, after a few weeks in DAZ Studio, and I never really played with 3D apps at all before that.

Edit: oops. Heh, I thought you were referring to my dimwitted comments in this thread....

Definitely agree with the sense of reality throughout, although I'm most floored by the tile. That's just amazing....

RobynsVeil, those eyes and lips are AMAZING! They look more real than the skin does, which isn't very normal in the 3D world, I find.

BagginsBill, what can I say? That is just tremendous work. I really hope to see you put everything together in the Pro package... SOON... and I hope I can afford it! :)

Thanks for those thoughts. The depth you mention.. that isn't resolved by lowering the strength of the map in Carrara? (I don't use Carrara, so I don't know what settings are there; in truth, I'm just beginning to find my way around PoserPro, which I've had for perhaps two months.)

Thanks, GKDantas. So are you saying that the quality of the maps, flexibility and ease of use is comparable to CrazyBump? Or just much better bang for the buck?

Thanks!