I'm thinking because i feel alot of you guys are experts in 3D. You have a lot of technical skill. you know about making textures, rigging figures, setting up bones, modeling,render engines, etc etc.

I know nothing about that nor do I plan on studying it. I'm just an AVERAGE 3D art maker.

I just use poser etc to make images or sometimes attempt animation but it's not great. It's just average or below average.

I feel like most Women would be impressed and interested in guys like YOU , who have great skill. Meanwhile, they would think i'm just wasting my time. And in fact, i feel that many women would be attracted to guys with great 3D skills.

Anyways, i have other hobbies too besides poser. But i'm also not an expert/not good at any of my hobbies.

What do you guys think?

Yes.

Euh, depends on the age..
But I think they mostly like our wallets.
=> to buy shoes.... :-)

Sorry, could not help it.....

Generalizing about women is a dangerous thing...;) However, I would think it depends on how much time you devote to the hobby vs how much time you devote to her...;)

That being said, many musicians (at least) know that there are women who appreciate art, especially if it reaches them on a personal level...it's a possibility the same is true in relation to art.

I still think you are spending way too much time at the keyboard, and way too little time at living life.

I've always admired your zbrush work, and think you short change yourself there.

Quote - I still think you are spending way too much time at the keyboard, and way too little time at living life.

I've always admired your zbrush work, and think you short change yourself there.

I agree with Garreee, on both points.

@ Gareee (or tebop)

Zbrush work? ... Where? :huh:

Women only like Guys who are experts at their hobby?

I'd guess a sheep farmer would know the answer to that :)

well, I have some technical skills with Poser, so where are all the admiring womens ?  I has none :(

There are all sorts of women , and all sorts of men.  The trick is (for a man)  in finding a woman who finds you attractive for whatever reason, and finding one who you like as well. 

Show women your art, its a good talking point, just dont how the hardcore porn at the start.  Do some nice pictures , and work towards the porn.

I agree with Gareee, its unlikely a woman will knock on your door, give you a big wet kiss with tongue, and demand to see your artwork.  You need to get out and mix with people even if its just doing laundry and grocery shopping.

Borrow a dog if your area has dog parks, some women love dogs. Try a dance class, there may be single women who need partners to learn to waltz.   

I was popular with teh wimminz when I was just a beginner at 3D.

I do, however, possess several other skills.

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Borrow a dog if your area has dog parks, some women love dogs. ...

Now, this is a neat idea! Just make sure that your chosen woman really loves her dog, before you "borrow" it and wait until the "Missing Dog" posters turn up. Otherwise you might get stuck with a dog you do not even know the name of :-)

People who are secure in who they are, are more attractive. Insecure people are less attractive.

Some people derive self-confidence from their hobbies. Others derive self-confidence from other aspects of their life.

You don't need to be good at 3D. You just need to be confident with being average at doing 3D :)

Well, being average at something which is very difficult and challenging is not so bad.

Quote - I do, however, possess several other skills.

+1

/me licks eyebrows.

Few people are experts, women just want a guy with confidence. 

GAREEE!  I almost shot Gatorade out my nostrils!

Assuming this isn't a "bate" or a joke, because I don't want to go on and feel like an idiot for offering some hearfelf advice.

Men and women tend to generalize and stereoptype if they are feeling insecure or inexperienced. Tend to ... I am not going to generalize here.  That being said.  Here is a crone's wisdom:

Poeple, men or women want relationships with like minded segnificant others who will appreicate them, accept them and feel affection for them.  They want to feel emotionally safe with the other person and feel secure with the relationship.  To do this, one must offer the same to that person and be sincere.  This is after all the fluff of appearence that fades, money that could go away at any moment and popularity that also fades. Passion is the driving force in youth and companionship later on ... although the passion doesn't go away. 

Read between the lines a bit as this is an "all ages" forum. I guess being someone who is in a committed relationship that has had many ups and downs and has lasted 43 years ... all I can say is seek someone with simalar interests.  develope a friendship and move to something more lasting ... be willing to compramize and be giving.  You will recieve if genuine and if the other person isn't a taker.  Keep in mind that we all have our baggage and shold be considerate of that. 

IF this helps let me know.  IF you are sincere.  All the women want this and men want that is just shallow nonesence ... go for someone who shares your interests and beliefs and you got a good beginning.

Boni 

Quote - GAREEE!  I almost shot Gatorade out my nostrils!

See? There's another great skill!

How far can you shoot it? Can you hit a bullseye at 10 paces?

Wanders in and plants some eggs.

Quote - Assuming this isn't a "bate" or a joke, because I don't want to go on and feel like an idiot for offering some hearfelf advice.

I'm almost certain it is just baiting. It seems to be a regular pattern with tebop/JosterD, ask a stupid off-topic question and then sit back with popcorn and watch the forum regulars provide entertainment for a few days. When there's no more action in that thread he asks another equally stupid question and the cycle starts again. When he gets accused of being too far off topic he drops in something about poser, then it's back to the I-suck questions.

The only way to break the cycle is if everyone ignores these threads and lets them drop down the page unanswered. Even if these posts are genuine it's a waste of time offering advice, the best advice is clearly being ignored, ie: "Turn off your computer and get out into the real world"

"Women only like guys who are experts at their hobby?"

Wow man! Where do you GET this stuff? All my hobbies have ever gotten me are needy freeloaders who want shit for free. Yeah sure, the occassional oohs! or ahhs! (makes jerk off motion with hand) but seriously, what Boni just said I couldn't say any better. As for whether or not a woman likes what you do as a hobby, meh... I've never met one who cared enough either way to affect our relationship.

Case in point, my (seriously outdated)gallery shows that I'm really good with pencil and paper. The number of women I have attracted with this talent? Zero!

My musical skills include being able to play VanHalen's "Eruption" solo on an 8 string guitar. The number of women who have shown any real interest in this? Yup, zero!

I used to play in a rock band for over 2 years and then I DJed a lot in various dance clubs. Again, the number of women who farted sideways to a dime over it? Nada!

What does get a woman's attention for me is, having confidence in myself and (this is important) NOT bragging about what I can do.

Now, (somebody already said this)using your hobbies to build your confidence up for real life? This can definitely work! As for women, they will notice the confidence and like that but, they really won't care about where you got the confidence from.

Good luck!

My husband can not walk, could not walk when we met either due to an accident that left his spine severly damaged, he really has no hobbies that I could admire him for... he likes to read. And hells I did not marry this man for his hobbies but the fact that he is kind, an awesome conversation partner, a great listener and always supportive of me no matter what it is I do. Besides he could draw stickfigures with fingerpaints on little post it's I would still love him all the same.

these O.T. threads demonstrate why an "ignore button" won't work here:  they have some kind of irresistable draw on users, even though they always turn out the same.  what users are really expressing when they request an "ignore button" is the age-old desire to get rid of people, to hound them out, to exclude them.  fortunately, those days are long past, as the site has evolved to tolerate users of all kinds.

Am I mixing up Tebop with Teyon?

Quote - I feel like most Women would be impressed and interested in guys like YOU

You mean me?

Yes, it's such a curse. When I go out of the house, I have to carry a big stick to beat them of with, and when I go into town I need to wear a balaclava so I am not recognised. Just last week three of them climbed up the drain pipe and managed to force the catch on my bedroom window. I'm sure you can imagine how annoyed I was when I went to bed and found it already occupied by three naked wimmin bent on performing acts of sexual depravity on by body. I had to call the police to remove them.

I deeply envy those who can lead a normal life, free of sexual harassment. Pity us poor men who are victims of lust, who must forever hide in the shadows, never daring to show our faces in the world!

Wait! What's that sound? Sounds like an alarm clock! Surely it's not time to wake up already?!?

@Les - LOL!

I got a magazine cover published with a Poser image of mine.  Since then, I can tell you I have to beat them off with a shitty stick.  Man, them chicks just love my 3D skills....!  And don't even get me started on sexy posing, it's just too dangerous.

tebop, I really think (and I mean this with all sincerity) that you need to get off the computer and Internet for awhile, get out of the house, and just live!  Weren't you the one complaining about not having a girlfriend?  Well you're not going to find one in this forum, especially the way you keep putting yourself down.

It's quite obvious you have a need for attention, you are probably lonely, but cyber friends are just a poor excuse for not living life to it's fullest.   Get out there.  Take some pictures, go to a museum, join a local group with similar interests.  Nothing beats face to face social interaction.

What is your current situation?  Do you live alone, with family, roomates?  If you are stuck for answers I suggest seeking professional help, posting your personal problems in a Poser forum is not going to make things better....for anybody!

Hea, thanks for the heads up on the sourse of this thread.  Who knows maybe I'm just a sucker for these threads once in a while.  I do spend a lot of time on the computer because I'm waiting for renders to finish ... and I'm trying to set up my online business.  It's fun to follow silly posts and sincere ones too. :)

Boni

Quote - ... get out of the house, and just live!

Or at the very least, treat yourself to a trip to the nearest DVD store

Quote - Am I mixing up Tebop with Teyon?

Yes.

Thanks all for all your input. I gotta say it's really hard to find a girl these days. They always with their ipods , can't even talk to them. That or texting.

As for the persons who mentioned "you need to find a girl with similar interests and start a friendship and then...." Well you mean i have to find a girl who is into graphics??

I mean that's my interest so...

Quote - Thanks all for all your input. I gotta say it's really hard to find a girl these days. They always with their ipods , can't even talk to them. That or texting.

As for the persons who mentioned "you need to find a girl with similar interests and start a friendship and then...." Well you mean i have to find a girl who is into graphics??

I mean that's my interest so...

Hopefully, that's not your ONLY interest. Do you like music, food, movies, theater, reading, dancing or singing?

here's my recommendation: some lady age 25 - 45 in the L.A. area who reads this forum and wants to meet some new guys should send OP an IM about meeting OP for a date at starbucks or some other cafe or bistro with wifi, where they could talk about poser, rendering, animation et al. and have a good time.  it might be really fun, they could bring their laptop - why not try it?  or somebody in the L.A. area could have a party and invite local users.  they've done it in the frisco area (PDRB), hence it might work down south.

Miss Nancy should one share their complete runtime on the first date?

This is what you need. Get busy!

*Link Removed by Admin

Damn!  i clicked on it and got parked.  Oh well maybe it's a sign from Poses the law giver.

Dear Little Red-Haired Girl,

In lieu of a valentine this year, I have decided to show you how skilled I am at my hobby.  I have prepared this exquisite 3D potrait of you, holding a sword in a temple.  The nudity is artistic in intent, and it highlights the realistic skin shader.

Love, Charlie Brown

---> LRHG replies with a restraining order.  Now Charlie Brown is on an FBI watch list.  Bitter and disillusioned, Charlie gives up Poser and becomes a denizen of 4Chan.

Quote - I'm thinking because i feel alot of you guys are experts in 3D. You have a lot of technical skill. you know about making textures, rigging figures, setting up bones, modeling,render engines, etc etc. I feel like most Women would be impressed and interested in guys like YOU ,  i feel that many women would be attracted to guys with great 3D skills.

What do you guys think?

In the past, whenever I showed a woman just a WIP of a nude female 3D model I made in Hexagon, they wanted to be my girlfriend the next day.  I'm not a sculpter.  But I am curious if women feel the same way after seeing a nude female marble sculpture?

Quote - Women only like Guys who are experts at their hobby?

No, they don't.... women prefer men who don't have too many hobbies and sure aren't experts at them. Such a man has time for a woman, a man who's only into hobbies, work and so on, doesn't give his lady enough attention.

Secondly, if you want to get a woman, drop poser from your hobbies, at least if you're into nudes.... don't talk about it at all when dating. Don't tell them know that you play with digital nudes, they will think you're a pervert and porn addict. If you really want to impress a girl with poser, drop the nudes and make romantic or tear jerking stuff instead. You know, holding hand scenes or sunset scenes with poems and such..... with clothed people.

But the best advice I can give you, is shut down your computer for a few weeks. don't even touch it anymore and get out of the house, meet with real people..... perhaps even seek some help?

Let's go another route, Tebop. Since you seem to be online and in front of your computer anyway, have you considered going to one of the online services like Match.com? If you're looking for women with similar interests, that's what they do.

Women want current photos of you if you do the Match.com thing.  Just so you know, Tebop.  They won't reply back otherwise.

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2827139

And that takes us back to where we came in.

Quote - Women want current photos of you if you do the Match.com thing.  Just so you know, Tebop.  They won't reply back otherwise.

I'd be sunk if I sent one.  I haven't shaved in over a week so I look like a serial killer.  :lol:

Quote - > Quote - Women want current photos of you if you do the Match.com thing.  Just so you know, Tebop.  They won't reply back otherwise.

I'd be sunk if I sent one.  I haven't shaved in over a week so I look like a serial killer.  :lol:

Yeah, but what if .............. the girl/woman is looking for someone like that? :lol:

sorry, couldn't resist ... ;=]

Would Wendy's be all right to take some one on a first date.  Just wondering cuz i love that restaurant.

Troll Class system by Pzrite (aka Leee)

Troll (First Class) - a person who posts outlandish and/or mean-spirited messages for the sole purpose of causing anger among the other posters, consequently drawing a large amount of attention to him/herself, which is usually the root reason for trolling. This type of troll will very rarely respond directly to logical discussion of the topic at hand.
[Example: Hitler's greatest mistake was he didn't finish the job]

Troll (Second Class) - a person who will post slightly more logical and tame comments than the First Class troll.  Even though it may seem this person has valid opinions for the topic at hand, they are still meant to draw attention, create anger and controversy.  This person will sometimes respond to comments, but only to further inflame the discussion.
[Example: I don't think we went to the moon because.....]

Troll (Third Class) - a person considered to be borderline troll.  While this person will not necessarily post inflammatory comments, they are still meant to illicit a response/reaction/attention to the poster.  While some Third Class Trolls are genuine in their beliefs or statements, they don't always directly answer the responses or if they do, they will continue along the same self-absorbed path, disregarding the replies posted to him.   Third Class Trolls are also capable of posting "normal" messages within a forum that do not seek attention for merely attention's sake.
[Example: I can't seem to find a girlfriend, can someone tell me what to do?]

Note: This classification system has not been authorized or sanctioned by the IITS (International Institute of Troll Studies) it is merely for educational and/or entertainment purposes only.*

Quote - Troll Class system by Pzrite (aka Leee)...

Not too bad a summary, see also -> The Field Guide to Trolls

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Not too bad a summary, see also -> The Field Guide to Trolls

Thanks for the link.  That information is kind of along the same lines that I was going for, only a LOT more detailed and descriptive.  But then again, I did just create my "Class System" off the top of my head. ;-)

Wikipedia did not have nearly as much information as The Field Guide, and I wanted to add my Class System to it, but that topic has been locked due to excessive vandalism by trolls.  Oh the irony!

wendy's would be o.k. as long as one didn't eat any of the hi-cal. "food" there and they've got wifi.  whether the chap shaves or even has a goatee like brad pitt may not matter that much. YMMV.

sigh

Tebop, you seem like a nice guy.  If you seriously want to be friends with a girl, and possibly in a romantic relationship with one, there is only one way you are going to get that to happen.  Asking the same question a dozen different ways and using aliases to do so,  isn't going to get you any closer to your goal.

Turn off your computer and go get involved in life!!! 

Join a community leisure program through your City's Parks and Recreation Department. Many are free to join.  Sign up to volunteer for sports events or festivals.  Get a dog, or offer to walk other peoles' dogs. Take them for walks and to the park where you will find other dog lovers there playing with their dogs. Go to poetry or book readings, music festivals, outdoor concerts, charity events, museums, art galleries  etc etc etc.

When at any of these places, just be yourself!!! Don't try to be someone you are not.  Sit down and enjoy yourself!! That's number one!  Casually talk to people, both men and women.  Idle chit chat. Don't start asking them personal questions or spilling your guts about your life. Just idle chit chat about the event, how much fun you are having.

Tebop, I don't know how old you are. You come across in your posts, at least to me, as being very young....teenager maybe.  But you also mentioned in some of your posts that you are "old."  I don't recall ever seeing you say exactly how old you are.  So I'm going to assume you are somewhere in between.  I'm going to assume that you are probably around 30 years old and still a virgin. 

My best advice to you at this point, because you seem terrified and awkward where women are concerned is to go and hire a prostitute. Yes!!!. I'm dead serious about that!!!  You don't  have to do anything with them other than sit and talk with them to get you comfortable talking to women! Take them to a coffee shop and buy them some coffee and sit and chat with them for an hour.  Yes, you will still have to pay them for their time.   However, this will get you used to approaching women and interacting with them.  And when you feel ready to progress, you can proceed to the sex part. Don't forget to practice safer sex by using condoms.

If you live near Carson City, Nevada, you can even visit one of their legal brothels there: Moonlite Bunny Ranch.* *

After that, you should be able to break out of your shell a little and not be so terrified of talking to women.

You might also try the "online relationship" thing. Some people are happy to be romantically involved with someone online and on the phone and consider themselves boy friend-girl friend for months and years at a time.  At the very least it will get you comfortable communicating with a girl.