Basically, there's no reason to do a serious human render without it. :)

You're missing the point. To use your own analogy: I don't care about the remote control, I care about the stations.

When I suggested BB was fighting a losing battle trying to keep people from thinking this was a shader... did I say anything about skin? No, I did not. (Although, truth be told, that's going to be the single most important usage for the overwhelming majority of people.)

No, I think I understand what the less technical people are going to think. Yes, you may well find it more significant for its method. But most people want the actual material packs and shaders.

Quote - So, I hope this is a legal process:

I bypassed the Bump map and Specular Map and grabbed the Color map from the eighth column and dragged it back over near the Main node and connected the Diffuse_color to it.

Hm... now that I'm using PR2, I have the same problem with the preview. But this trick didn't work for me (assuming I did it right).  :-

Edit: Actually, I know I didn't, 'cause I didn't bypass anything... not even sure if I should. I don't want the Bump and Specular maps bypassed, do I?

Quote - LOL. I never noticed that...

Thanks. 

:)

Heh. Don't feel bad... as you can see from this thread, there's a lot of stuff that I don't notice until someone tells me. And actually, my images above are my first usage of the attachment feature, and until I'd done the first, I wasn't sure if it would work either....

http://believable3d.com/resources/vss_for_dummies.php   :)

See, I do this sort of thing first of all for myself. I break things down into dummy language to help me get my mind around it now, and also so that I don't have to reinterpret everything later when I come back to things after a break and need a refresher.

Hm... or am I wrong about that? Just above, BB repeats his instructions to load the VSSGeneric Prop... which is what I had... will have to go back through the thread and confirm which Prop is VSS2....

Edit: No, I was right... Now that I look at the contents of the zip files, it's the repeated instructions in this thread that are wrong. The two men fighting is PR1. Here again, the ReadMe needs updating.

And then I realized that - duh - after reading over and over the reminders to use VSS2, I had somehow loaded VSS1, so things were behaving as expected.

Anyway, as I have been rendering at very high quality settings - and thus very slowly - I leave off tonight with this last render from VSS1, albeit this time with the PR3 shader. Tomorrow after church I hope to find time at some point to get acquainted with the VSS2 Prop. :)

gomcsce, do you realize that you can post the image in the thread itself (although I think you'd need to resize it) just by using the "Attach a File" function below the message box?

Ah, now I see the problem... gotta do this from the Categories palette. :)

Quote - > Quote - I'm getting the error: "The file being read is not a valid Poser file"  when I try to apply the new PR3 shader to the "Template Skin" in the Material room.

I've searched this forum but don't see an answer for this. Any ideas?

Dave.

I've not heard this error before.

The PR3 shader is not a valid Poser file? That's all it says? Are you sure it says nothing about a different version of the Poser file? You saved the file directly as VSS_Template_Skin_PR3_WIP.mt5?

Can you tell me in more detail what you did, and a screen shot of the error message dialog?

Something like:

I load the same control prop as ever.
I go into material room.
I select the Template Skin.
I double-click the PR3 material.
I get this dialog (screenshot)

Hm, I also got an error at first.

I'm assuming the PR3 material is supposed to be loaded in  the Diffuse Component box? is that wrong? Because with that, I got an error the first time I tried, but it worked the second time. No idea why....