I'm just curious, Shane.  How is it forum users are supposed to know these things?  Is there some user manual somewhere that we're supposed to be using to post on this software?  Because, quite frankly, I've never seen anything like it.....you're copying the background color from a text editor into a forum post?  Whaaaaaaaaa?  That's as convoluted as anything I have ever seen in my life. You should also probably keep in mind that half of us don't even have any real icons to use, just the missing icon symbol across the top row of any forum post....whether through preference or browser compatibility.  One thing is certain.....guessing isn't working.

@Glitterati - Honestly, all I did was just spend some time experimenting with all of it to see how it works. When I see someone mentions this or that isn't working I go and do a test on my own to see if it's really not working or if it's just working differently than it used to. I just figured these things out on my own by experimenting and looking at the various menus when something particular comes up. There's no manual that I'm aware of. There are a lot of features people are saying are broken when they're really not, they just function differently than before. Granted, some things are no longer possible to do and some other things are not functioning the way they're supposed to, but I have not had any actual problems or bugs pop up for me that I can recall recently. I do use Chrome tho, and it seems that a lot of the people experiencing issues are using IE, so I can't comment on the IE experience. Now if you're using some script or plug-in or whatever to block certain browser functionality like flash then that's not the fault of the forum software when those features that require flash don't work as intended. (not trying to be an ass here, but that's kind of like intentionally unplugging a toaster and then complaining that the toaster isn't working). It also helps to state what browser you're using when you do find an issue, or include what browser you're using in your signature, the way many include what version of Poser and OS they're using, so that you don't have to keep restating it. 

With all that said, I don't know why it copies the background color from a text editor, except that in a text editor there is a ton of code behind the scenes telling that editor what font to display, size, color, etc. Such as when using something like MSWord. If you're copying text from a plain text editor like notepad then there is no 'hidden' formatting, so all you're going to get is the text you copy and in the default forum font color when you paste it.

I'm not saying there aren't issues with the way the forum is working, I'm just saying a lot of features work differently, some old features have not been implemented - for reasons I can't answer since I have no idea what criteria was used in making these decisions or if any of those features will ever be seen again - and I'm just trying to clarify when certain things are stated as being broken when really they are not, they just work differently. An example would be the archive search feature. I've had no problems searching anyone's posts, going back to 2000 or so. As far as I can tell every post that's ever been made here is still accessible. I posted a tutorial with images in another thread a few weeks back when several were claiming the search feature is broken and none of the old threads could be found. I'll have to dig it back up to remember which thread I posted that in. 

I'm just curious, Shane.  How is it forum users are supposed to know these things?  Is there some user manual somewhere that we're supposed to be using to post on this software?  Because, quite frankly, I've never seen anything like it.....you're copying the background color from a text editor into a forum post?  Whaaaaaaaaa?  That's as convoluted as anything I have ever seen in my life. You should also probably keep in mind that half of us don't even have any real icons to use, just the missing icon symbol across the top row of any forum post....whether through preference or browser compatibility.  One thing is certain.....guessing isn't working.

@Glitterati - Honestly, all I did was just spend some time experimenting with all of it to see how it works. When I see someone mentions this or that isn't working I go and do a test on my own to see if it's really not working or if it's just working differently than it used to. I just figured these things out on my own by experimenting and looking at the various menus when something particular comes up. There's no manual that I'm aware of. There are a lot of features people are saying are broken when they're really not, they just function differently than before. Granted, some things are no longer possible to do and some other things are not functioning the way they're supposed to, but I have not had any actual problems or bugs pop up for me that I can recall recently. I do use Chrome tho, and it seems that a lot of the people experiencing issues are using IE, so I can't comment on the IE experience. Now if you're using some script or plug-in or whatever to block certain browser functionality like flash then that's not the fault of the forum software when those features that require flash don't work as intended. (not trying to be an ass here, but that's kind of like intentionally unplugging a toaster and then complaining that the toaster isn't working). It also helps to state what browser you're using when you do find an issue, or include what browser you're using in your signature, the way many include what version of Poser and OS they're using, so that you don't have to keep restating it.

With all that said, I don't know why it copies the background color from a text editor, except that in a text editor there is a ton of code behind the scenes telling that editor what font to display, size, color, etc. Such as when using something like MSWord. If you're copying text from a plain text editor like notepad then there is no 'hidden' formatting, so all you're going to get is the text you copy and in the default forum font color when you paste it.

I'm not saying there aren't issues with the way the forum is working, I'm just saying a lot of features work differently, some old features have not been implemented - for reasons I can't answer since I have no idea what criteria was used in making these decisions or if any of those features will ever be seen again - and I'm just trying to clarify when certain things are stated as being broken when really they are not, they just work differently. An example would be the archive search feature. I've had no problems searching anyone's posts, going back to 2000 or so. As far as I can tell every post that's ever been made here is still accessible. I posted a tutorial with images in another thread a few weeks back when several were claiming the search feature is broken and none of the old threads could be found. I'll have to dig it back up to remember which thread I posted that in. 

As I have said several times, I am not, nor have I ever blamed the software for personal choice I make like using the NoFlash plugin.  However, flash based icons are really overkill in the first place.  Really?  Icons, flash based?  What's next?  Bringing back text marquees?  Beside the point, however, that I have never "blamed" the software for this once I found out the culprit was my own choice to use the NoFlash plugin.

The background copying does, in fact, do the same thing when using a pure text based editor.  I have had it happen to me just like it did for Bagginsbill in his post, and I use a pure ASCII editor.

Now, I'm glad the forum software is working for you.  But, as you can see, for a great many of us it's not.  I just wish all these many months we hadn't been dismissed as cranks, whiners and idiots.  And that's exactly how it has come across.

Browser compatibility shouldn't be something your USERS are testing.  That should have been done before the software was implemented.  And, after all this time, one would think this simple function of ANY website, browser compatibility should have been fleshed out all these months later.

I visit and participate in 7 forums daily (not just 3D forums), some custom programming, some canned software and I have never had an experience so unpleasant, so unnecessarily difficult, and so convoluted as this one.

And, to be honest, most of us just don't have time to "play" with this software to learn it.  We shouldn't have to take that time out of busy schedules just to try and help a Renderosity customer by answering their questions.

Here's a new report of a problem I'm seeing.....

Every day between 3-5PM US Eastern Time, the entire website slows to a crawl.  This is the same time that Bagginsbills forum posts started "disappearing" as the website simply stopped functioning, which has become a daily occurrence.

Now, according to the stats at the top of the forum, this isn't even a particularly busy time of the day for visitors.

Ask the chat regulars - we see it happen every day.

Ok, well my response to your previous post was actually copied from wordpad into the text box here and it did not require me to change any of the background or font color settings. So I don't know why that would be a requirement in one browser and not the next.

Flash is still very much alive and being used in the majority of sites I visit, so I don't know what the big deal with using flash is all about. It remains superior to html5, at least for now, from a number of articles I've read on the subject. Granted I'm not a web designer and most of what I do is done in dreamweaver so I can't really answer any of the 'omg why flash!?!' questions. I also can't answer anything about why 'rosity does what they do. I have no connection to the web development team and no one from there asked for my input on the issue. All I can do is clarify for people posting here whether something is actually broken or not, from my perspective. 

So far everything looks and functions the same to me in Firefox as it does in Chrome. This text was copied and pasted from wordpad.

And my last post here didn't show up either.

If you hit refresh it will show up. That happens sometimes.

And my last post here didn't show up either.

If you hit refresh it will show up. That happens sometimes.

Actually, during the daily slowdown, they don't ever show up.  The browser spins and spins and spins and the page never refreshes. The same thing happens to the store during the daily slowdown.

they still have a truespace forum here at renderosity,that's just sad.
don't know why all forums want to divide every thing up like they do.
n all there open to interpretation rules buy who evers stoned that day.I'll hate cgtalk till the end.
I don't bother with any other forums at renderosity,this is the active forum or what's left of it.
the copy paste thing has been broken for so long now ,it's beyond pathetic.
somebody take the crack pipe from the webmaster.

don't guess any forum is perfect.
daz forums there to bright white.
runtime divided poser up.
deviant art forums the way replies work is the stupidest thing I've ever seen on a forum.

welcome to earth

The sad part about all of this is that in the end, whatever we say will fall on deaf ears.

I say this because it has been a long time since the change and very little has been done to correct any of the users concerns.

If Rendo wants to continue to loose valuable people to the community, all they have to do is nothing.

It boggles me that the site is this way, but at this point I don't really care anymore.

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Switch to chrome or firefox and you wont have those problems. The issue is IE from what I  can tell. So my best advice is to use a different browser until whatever the issues with IE are get sorted out.

Since MS is canning IE anyway how long is it going to be before support for that browser ends?

You know, Shvrdavid, you make an excellent point.  I wonder if it would be possible to have one of the programmers  come here and explain  just WHY none of the concerns expressed before have been dealt with. With all due respect to Tina K, Shane and Boni, who have to catch all the grief, the programmer(s) are the ones who should come out here and explain their actions (or inactions).

Switch to chrome or firefox and you wont have those problems. The issue is IE from what I  can tell. So my best advice is to use a different browser until whatever the issues with IE are get sorted out.

Since MS is canning IE anyway how long is it going to be before support for that browser ends?

Well, I use Firefox and the forum software still sucks, so........ But, do you really think telling your customers to switch browsers to use your website is a "solution?"  Quite frankly, that's a pretty arrogant attitude and my response would be yeah, OK, bye!

Switch to chrome or firefox and you wont have those problems. The issue is IE from what I  can tell. So my best advice is to use a different browser until whatever the issues with IE are get sorted out.

Since MS is canning IE anyway how long is it going to be before support for that browser ends?

Obviously you have not been listening, I use firefox, I do not, have not and will not EVER use IE,, and guess what. a lot of the problems are still here. Glitterati has already said she uses firefox, is there another FF that we are unaware of?

The sad part about all of this is that in the end, whatever we say will fall on deaf ears.

I say this because it has been a long time since the change and very little has been done to correct any of the users concerns.

If Rendo wants to continue to loose valuable people to the community, all they have to do is nothing.

It boggles me that the site is this way, but at this point I don't really care anymore.

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You silly!  You're using the wrong browser.  User error, user error, user error!

I'm not experiencing the same issues in firefox as you are then. I loaded it up last night and everything seems to be running fine, and my firefox isn't even updated to the latest version I don't think, as it kept suggesting that I refresh it as it's been so long since I'd opened it - at least a year or so. 

I'll be sure to look for this slow down you all are talking about between 3 and 5 today. Is that eastern time? I'm on here every day and have not noticed a slow down, but I can't say I'm always specifically on at that time. Yesterday I was in town around that time. 

I'm not experiencing the same issues in firefox as you are then. I loaded it up last night and everything seems to be running fine, and my firefox isn't even updated to the latest version I don't think, as it kept suggesting that I refresh it as it's been so long since I'd opened it - at least a year or so. 

I'll be sure to look for this slow down you all are talking about between 3 and 5 today. Is that eastern time? I'm on here every day and have not noticed a slow down, but I can't say I'm always specifically on at that time. Yesterday I was in town around that time. 

Repeating from my original post: Every day between 3-5PM US Eastern Time, the entire website slows to a crawl.

Hmm the new forum was essentially inaccessible to me on my Old Mac running Safari

I could only use this site with my android tablet and the "dolphin" browser

Since moving  to Chrome On my new Windows 7 Computer

I have Zero Issues

I compose my forum posts in notepad

past them into the the reply box here and apply any formatting

such as my "trademark" orange quoted text

and any links that need to be clickable.

I have never even tried to visit here on IE

as I don't use that browser at  all.

I am on Chrome. The white text was copied from the chrome URL bar, not a format-generating text editor.

However, as I said, the sequence was probably due to accidentally using the image insert dialog instead of the link insert dialog.

Let me try it again - we'll see if it happens.

Nope - I cannot reproduce.

But as I said, the theories given about why it happened to me are wrong.

I copied from the URL bar of an open page in chrome.

I pasted using the link insertion dialog.

At no time did I PASTE THE URL MYSELF - understand?

I am on Chrome. The white text was copied from the chrome URL bar, not a format-generating text editor.

However, as I said, the sequence was probably due to accidentally using the image insert dialog instead of the link insert dialog.

Let me try it again - we'll see if it happens.

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Nope - I cannot reproduce.

But as I said, the theories given about why it happened to me are wrong.

I copied from the URL bar of an open page in chrome.

I pasted using the link insertion dialog.

At no time did I PASTE THE URL MYSELF - understand?

Thanks, BB for taking the time to clarify.

OK, so MS is going to cease supporting IE and Rendo programmers are so advanced that they have already incorporated the change in their new designed.  Anyone want to take bets on just how well this forum will work in the new browser MS has planned.

So the new site works with Chrome but I use IE for the very reason that I have a SSD for my C drive and it is easy to move the IE temp file to another drive.  It may have changed, but when I started using an SSD it tried for many hours to do the same with Chrome and I gave up.

 So I have a choice, I could start using Chrome full time for uploading images to Rendo and the joy of using their forum or I could just stick with IE, until it is really dead and just move all my interest to RDNA.  Come to think of it, that process has already started.

On the IE issue. If you look at the source code for the page, you will see an IE flag.

Quote from MS on that....

Applications should not rely on X-UA-Compatible to be an excuse to avoid....

There is is in a nutshell folks.... I'm using Chrome and the server sent me a Internet Explorer compatibility setting........

Guess it is more than an IE issue.......

Well, what with the forum issues, the gallery issues and the pleasure of having my credit card hacked twice in as many weeks I was not in the best of moods.  Now that all of this is my fault I have come decided that after I have used next months voucher, that I earned while having my card hacked, I am going to take a break.  Rather than make a hasty decision and shut my account I have decided not to purchase anything from Rendo for the next three months and then revisit the decision then.

Shame really but I don't feel very valued as a customer at the moment. 

Oh and I should add that I do not expect Rendo to notice any impact but the $300 - $500 I will save will at least be some recompense for the hassle I have had with my credit cards.

I realize many of you are frustrated and understandably so. However, as Boni said on the first page of this thread, Rendersoity is working on several things to make the forums better. Believe it or not Renderosity appreciates any bug reports they receive. If it wasn't for the bug reports they may not have found half the bugs or glitches that appear. They do want to strive to make this a website/marketplace/forum that most will enjoy.

I realize many of you are frustrated and understandably so. However, as Boni said on the first page of this thread, Rendersoity is working on several things to make the forums better. Believe it or not Renderosity appreciates any bug reports they receive. If it wasn't for the bug reports they may not have found half the bugs or glitches that appear. They do want to strive to make this a website/marketplace/forum that most will enjoy.

Sorry to be negative but I will have a look in three months because precious little has happened in the last six other than fewer posts and people leaving.

I realize many of you are frustrated and understandably so. However, as Boni said on the first page of this thread, Rendersoity is working on several things to make the forums better. Believe it or not Renderosity appreciates any bug reports they receive. If it wasn't for the bug reports they may not have found half the bugs or glitches that appear. They do want to strive to make this a website/marketplace/forum that most will enjoy.

The maximum effective firing range of an excuse is zero meters.
At some point, things actually have to get fixed.

I think hornet3d is on to something.  Of course, the idea that 'Rosity might be able to connect the forum issues to people withholding purchases is a bit of a stretch.

Don't worry everything is going to be fine...just fine

Fellow Posers ... word has gotten to the administrators that I am compiling a list of issues to be addressed in the forums.  If we could focus here and get lists from you folks I will get it to them in the next couple days.  This is great news guys, they ARE listening. :)  I'm gathering what we have so far.  But I would like to make it as complete as I can.  I need your help here.

Thanks

Boni

Update: I am copying and pasting all your posts from this thread and others.  Then I will editing them for easier reading (without losing the essence of your posts I assure you) and get that master list to the administrators by FRIDAY.  I want to give you guys a chance to get it all on here.  :)

I agree. Taking potshots at the forum and Rosity, while cathartic, aren't doing anything to help rectify the problems that exist. Running away and hiding your head in the sand won't get anything done either. You're being offered an opportunity, at least, so if you don't take it then the next time you're looking for someone to blame  for nothing getting done, make sure you include yourself in that mix.

Might be a stretch, but if it was put back the way it was before there would be very few issues to address.

List.

• The forum is slow, very slow. If the server is getting swamped with requests that would be understandable.
• Can't attach things related to Poser, which is very counter productive.
• Formatting should automatically be removed when you paste something into the reply box. The format options are there if you want to format.
• Preview post. Not being able to do that just seems really odd and screams that no one cares what it looks like after posted.
• Auto scroll when you are doing a post.
• Write a better CSS, not everyone still uses a 800x600 monitor, or whatever minuscule one it is written for.
• Add some options, you know, so it is easier to use. User customization without having to know CSS..
• Document what you do change. Having options hidden all over the place is odd as well.
• Make the forum basically the same across different browsers. Use php if you have to so the correct html code gets sent to the user. That is what it is for...
• Set the site up so we can block all the crap that it goes thru now, and still be able to see the site. As it stands now if you block it, you get basically nothing. If you want to farm something, by a plow.
• Drop the avatar circle thing, it mess up more peoples avatars than not. Either that or put cross hairs in it to kill us off faster.
• You have go to top of page, how about go to bottom?

For God's sake, don't tell us you are going to fix it unless you actually plan on doing it. We have been hearing this for months.

Soon is trademarked by Daz you know.... Get a new excuse...

Feel free to delete this post. I will know it was there.

BTW, I did note yesterday, that I was using IE at work on Windows 7 Enterprise, and I couldn't see any icons anywhere. As I write this however, I am on my home desktop, a Mac, using OSX 10.6.8 and using Firefox. I can see ALL the icons clearly now. Just for giggles, I fired up Safari, as well, and I can see all the icons as well on that. The only weird anomaly I can see right off is that the "copy Link" icon,  doesn't reveal it's name/function when i mouse over. In fact, it doesn't seem to recognize it at all. Also, there seems to be some writing on it, but I can't tell what it is.

Also, why not let posters amend the tags on a post? If I forgot to tag it for nudity, or language, I could just go back and do that instead of having to flag down a moderator.

Concerning issues with attachments and images, why not have users use something like Photobucket for hosting images and dropbox for hosting files until things get sorted at Renderosity? That way Users don't have to worry about file types that are or aren't supported by the current attachment system. Seems like a win win to me.

does photobucket allow mature content ?

I agree. Taking potshots at the forum and Rosity, while cathartic, aren't doing anything to help rectify the problems that exist. Running away and hiding your head in the sand won't get anything done either. You're being offered an opportunity, at least, so if you don't take it then the next time you're looking for someone to blame  for nothing getting done, make sure you include yourself in that mix.

You are right of course but it has been many months now that people have been complaining and very little has changed.  If all you are doing is hitting your head against a brick wall you quickly come to the conclusion that all you are doing is getting a headache.  I do wish those individuals who are putting themselves out to try and get this all fixed the very best of luck.  Even more, I really hope that the powers that be really do not let them down after such efforts. 

In my defence I have already stated the issues that I have found and many of the other issues have already been raised by others.  I do commend the Rendo Team for being up front about the fact that their systems were at fault and taking make sure such a breach does not happen again but, the credit card breach was the last straw for me.  I spend money on Poser for the fun and for relaxation I have not found visiting Rendo either fun or relaxing recently and, after spending a few hours on the phone with fraud departments, boy do I need to relax.  Oh and just in case people think I am overreacting try and imagine seeing your credit card with over £3000 on it that you did not spend and within two weeks another £2000+, relaxed is certainly not how I felt at the time.  

 I am sorry if people think that is taking a 'pot shot' from my end it is just a statement of fact.  I really do need to take a break from Rendo in general it ain't doing my health any good.

For you Hornet3d ... couldn't resist.  Anything is possible with a little help. :)

Get those lists up here guys!

Sincerely

Boni

For you Hornet3d ... couldn't resist.  Anything is possible with a little help. :)

Get those list up here guys!

Sincerely

Boni

Thanks.  I know my render was a little cheeky but if it is a choice between depression and humour my humour normally wins.

does photobucket allow mature content ?

I honestly don't know but there are places you can host images at also. I'm just saying, if there's some growing pains here there are other ways to achieve the same and still post here. :) Anyway, carry on. 

OK, here's my list:

First and foremost, restore/recover the years of work by Bagginsbill and Snarlygribbly in those forum posts which had attachments converted to garbage.  Make some effort to show them their work/help/support of YOUR customers and users is appreciated.  This is a moment to go above and beyond.

Give us back the ability to post an example python script or material file as a text file attachment.

Get rid of all the posting icons/nonsense and give me the OPTION to go to an advanced mode with limited HTML markup if I want to.  A simple post with a link or an image shouldn't be as hard as this software makes it.

Allowing simple pasting of a link that STAYS a link.  It should not take a degree in computer science to put a link in a forum post.

Realize your audience is text based, folks simply looking for an answer to a question, usually in a hurry, on a deadline, stuck trying to do something in Poser they can't understand how to do.  Make getting those answers simple and painless and giving the answers less difficult.

TEST the site in multiple browsers and resolve the browser compatibility issues.

Compact the forum post display....the scrolling and scrolling and scrolling is unnecessary.

Remember that different users have different browser setups and window sizes.  The site should recognize the monitor size and make an attempt to present the best display capable - and that includes spacing.

These are great!  I'm going to present the admins with this whole thread on Friday along with posts from other threads.  This is really constructive and I appreciate it.

Boni

On a side note, I LOVE the flying pigs!

For you Hornet3d ... couldn't resist.  Anything is possible with a little help. :)

Get those list up here guys!

Sincerely

Boni

Thanks.  I know my render was a little cheeky but if it is a choice between depression and humour my humour normally wins. Nothing wrong with a little humor now and then!

I don't know photobucket but as far as I can tell photobucket doesn't allow nudity

can't remember there names but there where a few photo forums hosting sites that where censored.

CGI,Posers never been censored much.

just as soon not start now. 

I'm seeing flying pigs n haven't even started drinking yet. or was that pink elephant's ;)

You can open your own dropbox account and get 2gb of free storage, where you can put images or files or whatever else you want and then share a link to that file with anyone you want to share it with. As long as the file doesn't violate 'rosity's tos, I don't see why there would be anything wrong with sharing those links here. I use it myself to share wips of my commission work with my clients all the time. 

I'll check drop box out soon there's not a lot of info with out signing up,I need sleep.
I'm not worried about any one stealing my Art thou since I post it on the web.

I've never used anything like drop box .

is drop box censored ? can you post a .jpg here or on the gallery that's drop box is hosting ?

I've always tried to be respectful of forums tos's.  

If you place an image in your message, there's a chance that you accidentally put text around it. You have no way to see that because while the cursor is in the letters aaa or bbb as in this post, you do not see them. The cursor (and the misplaced text) is off screen AT ALL TIMES while typing or moving around with arrow keys. The only way to see it is to slowly scroll your editor window, by grabbing the scroll bar thumb and dragging it.

By the way I have a huge screen - why must I do my editing in a tiny window that is just two inches high?

First paragraph.
AAABBB

Second paragraph.

The mistake described in the previous post is most common for me and due to another mistake.

When uploading an image, there is a period of time when the server is recompressing it, for no reason.

During this time interval, you  have no visual cue that the image is coming. 

Due to being conditioned to edit in a tiny window in which new material is often off screen, you think that the image is there and you just can't see it because the editor doesn't scroll properly, and you're used to that.

Well so you start typing. Except the damn image arrives in the middle of your typing. As you continue to type, it may jump out of the way and you don't even realize that you now have half your paragraph before the image and half after. 

Further - as I type or use arrow keys to move the cursor, there is the possibiility (particularly when an image taller than the editor window is present) that the entire HTML page jumps as well. This is very disorienting. I often lose track of what I'm typing as the entire page moves by several inches. Given that the editor window is only two inches, that is extremely confusing.

=====================

So - compounding several problems 

Tiny editor window

Delayed image posting with no visual feedback.

Image further delayed by needless recompression.

Cursor routinely off-screen.

Spurious window + page jumping - (scrolling the editor window by typing or arror keys can also scroll spontanouesly scroll the entire HTML page). When this happens I get so disoriented that there is a very good chance I'm not going to notice I made a mistake with posting an image.

I know all of that sounds like corner case - who cares.

Well - it's like 80% of my rendo life - posting pictures and explaining what you're seeing.

Since that activity is now so painful and confusing, I have pretty much removed 80% of my participation.

Not cool.

 - why must I do my editing in a tiny window that is just two inches high?

You can re-size the text box by dragging the bottom of the window up or down with the left mouse button. 

The image will be placed at whatever point in the body of your post that your cursor is located when you hit the "picture" icon up top.

That's interesting - thanks. I never noticed.

Nor did I notice (as I just found it) the full screen button, which I will be using from now on.

The resize bar is good, but doesn't remember where I left it. Further, it is so close to the bottom of the page that to use it I had to drag the bar, then scroll the entire page, then drag the bar a little more, then scroll the page again, then drag the bar some more. Tedious - neat idea, but poor user experience.

I just went over to runtimedna to see if they had this feature. They do - but unlike here, the size I selected is retained and shows up on every page I visit, and they have enough extra stuff below the editor that I can resize it in one drag.

That's the same feature done wrong and done right. It's why I (and others) think the job done here is unfinished and poorly tested or thought about.